Cheex Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Don't forget he hates everything so he re-rolls 1s in the first round as well... :D He and his unit reroll all misses, not just 1s. (I know Khârn always hits on 2s, but it makes a big difference for the rest of his squad.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Don't forget he hates everything so he re-rolls 1s in the first round as well... :) He and his unit reroll all misses, not just 1s. (I know Khârn always hits on 2s, but it makes a big difference for the rest of his squad.) Yeah I know, but this topic is about the friendly guy Khârn. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Karn is just a really nice guy if you intend to fight. What also is really good is that his Axe has the range of an Infernus Pistol :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Don't forget he hates everything so he re-rolls 1s in the first round as well... :) He and his unit reroll all misses, not just 1s. (I know Khârn always hits on 2s, but it makes a big difference for the rest of his squad.) Yeah I know, but this topic is about the friendly guy Khârn. :cuss Fair enough. I've seen a few people confuse the rules for Preferred Enemy and Hatred, so thought this was the case again. Ignore my post, then :cuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Sage Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Don't forget he hates everything so he re-rolls 1s in the first round as well... :) He and his unit reroll all misses, not just 1s. (I know Khârn always hits on 2s, but it makes a big difference for the rest of his squad.) Yeah I know, but this topic is about the friendly guy Khârn. :cuss Fair enough. I've seen a few people confuse the rules for Preferred Enemy and Hatred, so thought this was the case again. Ignore my post, then :cuss Meh,I for one think that his warlord trait is very relevant when one debates his utillity in a list ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 KHAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRNNNNNNNNN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 KHAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRNNNNNNNNN! Thine act. I perceive it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'd say he's actually better than last edition. He now has hatred of everything so he almost never kills his own squad. I can't believe they didn't nerf him at all but he's now insanely good! Only thing that makes me wonder is with hatred, you reroll misses. Well it could be argued that he never actually misses, as his "misses" actually hit his squad..... Not saying I think this is correct, just playing devil's advocate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Now after a duel, you only need him to roll a +1Strentgh to be an Instagibbing monstrosity of S8 on charges... "Excuse me sire?!, is this your HQ with T4?, yes, well thank you sir. *VVeeemmmh!!!, SPlotrch!!!* "Oh by the way dear sir, GO SH*T a BRICK!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Now after a duel, you only need him to roll a +1Strentgh to be an Instagibbing monstrosity of S8 on charges... "Excuse me sire?!, is this your HQ with T4?, yes, well thank you sir. *VVeeemmmh!!!, SPlotrch!!!* "Oh by the way dear sir, GO SH*T a BRICK!!!" Don't forget that Gorechild is Armourbane. ;) Why, hello Mr. Vehicle! *smash* :D I can't wait to throw Khârn at a Baneblade. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Yup its a shame that the Champion of Chaos rule don't include MC's and walkers... Oh by the way I HAVE THE FREAKIN CODEX IN MY FREAKIN HANDS !!!!,and a Heldrake kit...,expect pics very soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Double post ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Yup its a shame that the Champion of Chaos rule don't include MC's and walkers... Oh by the way I HAVE THE FREAKIN CODEX IN MY FREAKIN HANDS !!!!,and a Heldrake kit...,expect pics very soon... Congrats! Same here for a couple of days now, no Heldrake kit, prolly wont get it :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 damn you all to the deepest reaches of tzeenchian hell.. wayland doesnt ship til saturday <-- sad sad bunny eared maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Awww, well dont be sad youll be just as happy as I was two days ago and that's a bit gone now :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Yeah actually i've got it from my FLGS, who received them this morning, and sold the dex and minis only to the mosts loyal and devoted Chaos worshippers of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 New Khârn: http://1d4chan.org/images/thumb/6/6f/Kharn_loev_khitten.jpg/512px-Kharn_loev_khitten.jpg Love for the lovegod, kitties for the throne of kitties. "I'll never hit you guys again! Just don't hide in the cold, my love will hold you warm Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Double post ignore No, I absolutely will not ignore this! I'm soo jealous of the models in your hand!!! :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boshea Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Not to rain on everyone else's parade, but Khârn doesn't reroll his 1s if he's in a squad. Betrayer treats them as hits on friendly models, and Hatred only lets you reroll misses. When Khârn goes commando though, he'll never miss. As a side note, the wording for betrayer is really awkward I find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Not to rain on everyone else's parade, but Khârn doesn't reroll his 1s if he's in a squad. Betrayer treats them as hits on friendly models, and Hatred only lets you reroll misses. When Khârn goes commando though, he'll never miss. As a side note, the wording for betrayer is really awkward I find. Yeah, I realised that as well; since he's not actually missing, he can't reroll those 1s. Not to worry, he's still even better than ever ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 You try to hit an ennemy model, you miss it, you just missed the ennemy model. The wording of the rule is that the 1's arn't discarded and that you put them aside, it doesn't say that they counts as hits or anything or that you can't reroll them. Khârn Vs Sm(or anything), Rolls to hit, gets a 1, its a miss, because you din't hit the ennemy model, so you reroll, if you get again a 1 then you put it on the side, and a friendly model gets the hit. No matter what if you get a 1 to hit your intended target, its a miss, because you simply din't hit the ennemy model, it then becomes a hit on your teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 yeah i have to agree with slayer, just becuase the 'miss' is redirected, doesnt mean its not a miss. he should get the re-rolls IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 The wording of the rule is that the 1's arn't discarded and that you put them aside, it doesn't say that they counts as hits or anything or that you can't reroll them. Sorry mate, gotta disagree there. "Instead, [rolls of 1] automatically hit a friendly model...locked in the same combat." It's pretty clear that if he rolls a 1, it doesn't miss and still hits something. The rule for Hatred requires that the model misses with its close combat attacks; it does not matter who the "intended target" is. Khârn's rolls of 1 are not misses. (Unless he's on his own, then you can reroll those 1s.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Willy Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Wait for the FAQ The RAW would say he doesn't actually miss, instead, they automatically hit a friendly blargablarg but it kinda conflicts with Gorechilds rule that Kharns melee attacks always HIT on 2+ which means 1 is a miss. Either way I'm loving new and improved Khârn He's even 5 pts cheaper, WHO NEEDS MELTABOMBS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 The wording of the rule is that the 1's arn't discarded and that you put them aside, it doesn't say that they counts as hits or anything or that you can't reroll them. Sorry mate, gotta disagree there. "Instead, [rolls of 1] automatically hit a friendly model...locked in the same combat." It's pretty clear that if he rolls a 1, it doesn't miss and still hits something. The rule for Hatred requires that the model misses with its close combat attacks; it does not matter who the "intended target" is. Khârn's rolls of 1 are not misses. (Unless he's on his own, then you can reroll those 1s.) Then where is the point of giving him Hate? To give it to the rest of the squad?, for that you take an Apostle and it would cost less and be less risky. PLus it also depends on the wording of the "unmodified" in the sentence. It could mean that a 1 that you get the first time you throw is unmodified. OR it could mean that once you made the reroll, it there is a new 1, its an unmodified, because you can't rethrow it... Arrrgh!!!!, this drives me nuts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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