Vassakov Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Gorramit Brother Argos... I assemble two Long Fangs with Missile Launchers last night, then come and find not only the begins of a fantastic looking mini-diorama of a Missile Launcher Astartes, but also a brilliant analysis and rationalisation for the model and it's place in the squad as a whole. I guess I'll just have to try harder. :) RE: The Steel Legion - aye, we've all been there I suppose. Still, the insight and tutorials provided made it one of the more compelling plogs I've come across and for that alone you shall be commended. The fact the models were absolutely mind blowing just helped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 *snip* I can't help but feel entirely patronised and insulted by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Brother Argos, all I shall say is that these are stupidly awesome, the amount of character and style to each and every miniature is immense. I can't wait to see the sergeant painted! My only critique of the models would be the eyes, compared to the other 'gem' type things they seem a little... flat? This may be intended, and if so, please ignore! The poses are lovely, and the weathering (both from the rusty hulk flooring and the chipped armour) is spectacular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapturowski Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 This must be the best looking rust I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 @ Captain Juan Juarez : Oh please ... Given the amount of detail I delve into ... did you think I would not have created the scenario in my head! ... Now stop being wounded and start painting some cool stuff :) @ Blindhamster : The lenses are indeed lenses ... Thats why the eyes appear flat .. the real thing is always going to look better :) @ kapturowski : Thank you ... it took a long while to work out :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 As I am going to be busy with work tomorrow and attending Relic/THQ on Friday for a day spent playing Dawn of War II Retribution I thought I would show something interesting to cover my absence and lack of work for 2 days. These Bionics and heads were from Puppetswar and could make a nice addition to my Iron Hands. A couple of the heads will work well on Space Marines, and all the rest of the parts too .. although I am not sure on the chest piece and the kneeling legs feels a little off (but not uncorrectable). The arms work nicely as does the power fist ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 @ Captain Juan Juarez : ....start painting some cool stuff ^_^ No, I refuse.. That's what I pay other people for! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 I did some more work on the Missile Launcher marine tonight ... specifically working on the servo arm attachment that comes with the "Missile Launcher" backpack from the Devastators box set. Looking at the construction it is intended to simply take a missile from the bottom of the pack and swing it up over the marines shoulder and drop it into his left hand so he can load the Missile Launcher. I have to admit that was a bit disappointing to me ... the Iron hands had long been masters of the Servo Arm, so I decided to alter the basic arm that came with the pack and make it into a fully functional Servo Arm. The arm was a little short so I extended both the forearm and the upper arm sections so it could reach and reload. The new arm also needed to retract and extend, so I made the add on part slightly larger than the original forearm and structured it so the original forarm could retract into the new part. Once done it looked a little "empty" so I added some bracing and some plasticard strip to the joint to make it more obvious how it fitted together. I was happy with the way it looked now and the added detail helped. I also cut the claw open and added in a missile to show it was ready to reload. There is still a little filing to do and some green stuff to fill small gaps, but that will have to wait till tomorrow as I stayed up till 1:30am to work on it. Here are a couple of pictures taken in poor lighting and quickly before I go to bed. Hope you like it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCC Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Your solution is much more elegant than mine David: As you can see I went down the unimaginative 'slap it in the left hand for loading' road and looking at this guy now I can see a myriad of issues with the pose, particularly that the arm has clearly gone over the Marine to get to that position, thus waving a big red flag to everyone in the area saying 'ML dude here!'. I was going to do it again and I wasn't going to steal your much better idea (which I probably would) then at the least I'd chop the servo arm off at the back pack and rotate it 180 degrees so it feeds the missile to the Marine from underneath. This pose might work better a kneeling Marine though I guess. Either way, back to the real topic at hand - your ML Marine and, as usual, excellent work! It really suits the Marine and the IH-ness of an advanced servo-arm even for a regular Marine is a great touch too. As I said first up, very simple, very elegant :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 <laughs> Well it survived the "does it still look ok in the morning after staying up late to finish it" test :P I need to do some green stuff work on it today, and then get it spray and ready for painting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 That looks cool, I like the idea of a rear loading launcher, makes sense there would be a hole in the back for launching the rocket, for the backwash Brill conversion :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 I of course drilled out the rear of the missile launcher to make it all "fit" :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Very nice. Very nice indeed. It does tell a story - like the marine is calmly aiming whilst under heavy fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 No pretty pictures today ... Now that I got rid of half of you and the ones who are intelligent are still reading we shall continue. I got quite a few things done at the weekend and its about that I wanted to write this morning. I encountered what I shall call "Stalling points" for want of a better word, those times when you keep putting off particular tasks time and time again till you "Stall" the entire project. I found myself stalling at the weekend, I had the following streams of activity for my Iron Hand project all running concurrently: - Sgt. Powerfist - Rebuild and restructure for magnets. Green stuff to repair slight damage to the armour casing. Sgt. Hand - Tidy up wrist. Green Stuff the "sub-armour" between wrist and hand. Hvy Wpns. - Green stuff small gaps in plasticard on Servo Arm and build the other side of the "sphere" at the joint to the backpack. Hvy Wpns. - Build sole of shoe with plasticard strip. Secret. - Green stuff secret helm for command squad. Ven Dread. - Think about magnets and fitting together. So ... guess what I did out of that list ... That's right I played with the Venerable dread arm and weapon fittings till I got a solution for magnets and put plasticard strip on the sole of the Hvy Wpns marines foot, I then stalled! Its quite amusing how our minds play tricks at this point ... I went and spent some time with my daughters, cooked dinner, watched a movie and then read a black library book before bed. Strangely however when I awoke on Sunday morning and went back to my desk, the "Stalling Point" was still there, forcing me to think of other things to do, even to the point of considering an Iyanden Ghost warriors army and how to paint yellow. Finally my wife asked how the Iron hands were coming along and I had nothing to tell her ... It was then I broke through and applied some thought to what I was doing and made the list of things you see above (well actually just the bits I had remaining). It didn't take long after I had the list in front of me to realise I had been putting something off ... doing the green stuff work. My mind then went on all kinds of acrobatic attempts to avoid the self blame ... my favourite of which was ... "Its just common sense to gather it all up and do it all at once" ... which is of course complete rubbish. I realised that this had happened often in the past as well ... saving things I didn't enjoy doing up into a large pile of unpleasantness which then makes me not want to do the project and finally kills it for me. Now I am a reasonable sculptor, you can see that from my work on the Steel Legion, this wasn't even complex work, it was just filling and tidying up. However now I had identified what was putting me off, I could do something about it, so I sat down and did ALL the green stuff work I needed to do and felt so much better about it afterwards. I then started thinking about other things that caused the same reaction and came to the conclusion spraying black primer was another stalling point for me, where perfectly ready to proceed models sat there for days while I "got ready" to spray them. So from now on, I am not doing that, I am spraying as soon as I am ready ... and sculpting as soon as its required. This is a project I want to finish ... not fail to complete it just because of stalling over something ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I know exactly where you are coming from When it comes to things like layering base coats, or i've made a silly mistake, then i just think of an excuse not to carry on, and things go unfinished. Last night i sat staring at the missile launcher marine for my Hawk Lords, and realised i'd reversed the colour scheme on the launcher. Most people have the main tube metallic, and the handle/bits&bobs Black, and when i realised i'd done it the other way around i was annoyed at myself, put my paints away and went downstairs and watched telly with the wife. Now i know i will have to repaint the laucher, and need to find the motivation to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorns Padawan Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 It all looking very very nice I must say! Have enjoyed this thread so far!! The sevro arm on the ML looks awesome, must have been a tad fidily! On a side note I wish my wife would ask me how my army was going rather than sneering at it and occasionaly saying 'make the most of your toy soldiers because when we have kids you won't be able to play with them'... How little she knows! I envy you Brother Argos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 No pretty pictures today ... Now that I got rid of half of you and the ones who are intelligent are still reading we shall continue. No pictures? Pah, I'm off. :no: No, wait! :o Well, I know where you're coming from regarding putting stuff off. That particular problem seems to blight even painters with barely a tenth of the talent you've got. :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leahcim Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Awesome marines you are making ! Both conversion and painting is nice. Yeah don't neglect this army, it is too awesome to sit half-done in the back collecting dust.. You have my support - keep fighting :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Caedrius Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I'm working my way through your Steel Legion blog with much interest - a quick question....do you still use the Sculpey Procreate stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Normally I work at home in the evenings, I try and put aside an hour a night to try and keep some momentum, however the real world often intrudes and you don't achieve your goals (falling asleep on the couch last night didn't help for example). So to make up for missing my painting time I have decided to do some painting at the office today, I have painted while travelling before and have built a small kit to help me do so. This is what I carry with me: - At the back we have two boxes, where my sadly organised brain has dictated a colour coded scheme, green is a painting box & purple is sculpting. The box on the left has my missile launcher marine, broken down into components for easy access. While on the right we have the Sgt & left handed arms in for final Green Stuff work and if you look really carefully in the top right you can see my Gw paint pot. In the middle we have a "Really Useful Box" with my paints and brushes, the brushes are W&N Series 7 Miniatures, sizes 0, 1 & 2. I also have 6 paints with me, Vallejo Black and White with Citadel Black, Boltgun, Mithril Silver & Dwarf Bronze, these represent. For this project these paints give me almost all I need to do the job. Oh and as you can see the weathering on the Missile Launcher marine has been done on the body and backpack, I need to do the head, servo arm and missile launcher today. In the left to the front we have my sculpting kit, this is new for me and I have put it together to overcome the recent "problem". There is a set of the smallest hardest clay shapers you can get, a Wax Carver #5, a dental probe and the green stuff tubes. This kit plus some saliva covers almost all I need to sculpt anything I require. Oh and my youngest daughter Amelia gave daddy a spare pencil case this morning to help carry his sculpting tools <bless>. I asked her for a purple one to match the colour coding but obviously her devotion and generosity only stretch so far ;) My modelling glasses, not because I need glasses but actually because they are +3.5 magnification. I went to our local pharmacy (Boots in the UK) and got some for about £20. They help me a lot with sculpting and even with painting intricate detail, for me a definate worthwhile addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Coolio I wish i could paint at the office, but i share mine with a right miserable sod, so its a no-no Maybe i should get a new job with my own office? ;) I want to paint Iron Hands now - damn you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 @ Cyrox : Its ok .. just pick up the missile launcher and paint it the way you want to, its only another 30 mins or so ;) @ Dorns Padawan : Been in that situation, my ex-wife was like that, once took a chair and smashed a land raider I had painted to little pieces. Little did she realise she had just started a countdown to divorce. @ Brother Caedrius : My Steel Legion was such a painful process ... some of my best work, but I bit off way more than I could chew and it put me off painting/modelling for a couple of years. I do still occasionally use the Pro-create stuff for specific tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onipunk Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Never touch a man's Land Raider, that's a surefire way to get the Inquisition's attention :) Looking great again, cannot wait to see you start the Sergeant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Just as long as you don't wear the glasses for too long or you eyes will start to become dependent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 If that's a travel kit, I'd hate to see what the stationary kind amounts too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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