Zombie themed Nurgle army?, Inspired by Priest graphic novel... Options

[CHOZO]

I have been tempted to make a deathguard/nurgle army, with a zombie theme for a while. The only thing that has stopped me is the fact that I don't like the idea of zombies wearing traditional power armor. And I didn't know what to do about this until I came across this graphic novel on the internet...



In the book there are zombies that have been made to be exceptionally resilient. So I was thinking I could model my zombies in a similar way. I could have bits of metal embedded/bolted into their skin to explain the added toughness. I could have tanks of chemicals on their backs to explain their other stats.

So what do people think? I think it's a pretty fun idea. Has anyone else read the Priests series that I am talking about? Can anyone think of any ideas or suggestions that might make the army work out better? I have no idea if I will be able to do it, but it's worth a shot.

[Brother Plastica...]

Of course it will work!

Here are some Ideas:
-Backpacks: SM/Skaven hybrids
-Zombies: There are some way cool Ghouls for Vampire Counts that may work....check this out for inspiration. Also search google for suitable zombie looking mini's.
-Add plasticard plates and chop up some very small plastic rod for rivets, and voila! You have yourself some metal plates.
-For guns, how about a hybrid of SM weapons and weapons that are imbedded into your guys?

Cheers!

[minigun762]

Well the easiest thing to do I think would be use Zombies from the Vampire Counts Fantasy army as treat them as your lesser daemons.

Take 2-3 Plague Marine squads, probably in Rhinos with Meltaguns (for some tank busting) and a Personal Icon.

Then drive around summoning wave after wave of zombies

A Nurgle's Rot Sorcerer would also seem appropriate or maybe Gift of Chaos and have it turn them into giant zombies (try Ogres from Fantasy)

Something like this for 1500 Points
Sorcerer, MoN, Nurgles Rot, Personal Icon
6 Plague Marines, 2 Meltaguns, Champion, Power Fist, Personal Icon, Rhino, Extra armor
6 Plague Marines, 2 Meltaguns, Champion, Power Fist, Personal Icon, Rhino, Extra armor
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)
5 Lesser Daemons (Zombies)

[Maeklos]

A good way that I did for plague zombies was to mix'n match Chaos Marine parts with WHFB Zombies. Get a Marine torso and gouge out the abdomen area, get the "dripping guts" bit from the Zombie sprue and stick there so it looks like his guts are hanging from a horrible stomach wound. Hack off one of the arms/legs and replace it with a zombie limb. Maybe slap a zombi head on top, or hack apart a helmet and fit in zombie head parts to make it look like part of his helmet is blown away.

Looks really great, especially because you can use any Marine for the basis - fantastic for campaigns where you're fighting a specific foe.

[TheMarineWithThe...]

Oh man thats insane
Very functional that there is no limit of demons anymore.
But I could imagine that your 13 marines could get shot down in the first round by some fast units or infiltrators even if you start in cover.
Or if your zombies come in little waves they could get destroyed one after another.
But if your tactic comes off I can already see your opponent first being annoyed, then unbelieving and then despairing

[AkiraCho]

i replace all bare heads with zombie heads, replaces all abdomen with zombie abdomen, use zombies as demons.

hope that helps

[Erik Crowbreath]

sounds good
you could use a warhammer fantasy bone giant (with a bit of conversion) as a greater demon...

[AkiraCho]

meh you could do that for the greater demon, sadly the new rules for the greater demon is really poor.. he is kinda cheap in points but not really worth taking either. and he doesnt fill any slots or anything like that

[_Cadaver_]

meh you could do that for the greater demon, sadly the new rules for the greater demon is really poor.. he is kinda cheap in points but not really worth taking either. and he doesnt fill any slots or anything like that

I have to disagree with you. The Greater daemon in the new codex is very good for the points. The fact that he doesn't fill a FOC slot is a good thing. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise, but maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are getting at there.

Anyway, I'm a big zombie fan too which is why I play DG. You can have a heavily themed DG army with a limited amount of power armored marines, however if you choose to have a zombie daemon bomb force like the list posted above I have a few suggestions that I would change from that list.

First, I would choose a Daemon Prince over a sorcerer. The Daemon prince is far more resilient and is a scoring unit. Regardless of fluffiness give him wings. If you can model a cool "counts as" wings conversion, go for it, but regardless give him wings. He needs to get into combat as soon as possible. This will also allow him to claim objectives at the last minute if need be.

I would take a few more squads than the list above. If you can get 3 squads of 7 w/ AC and two special weapons per squad, you've got a good, tough troop base at 1,500 points. Not as much as I prefer, but for the sake of a daemon bomb list it will work. This also gives you multiple options as to where you can bring in your lesser daemons(zombies). However, you may find sacrificing and extra plague marine squad for some chosen to be more effective.

On that note, lets consider the options with Chosen. You can get a 5 man squad with AC and an icon(IoCG) for 110 points. Now this is a bare bones squad and if you want them properly themed, you should take MoN but for how expensive it is you need the squad to be 7+ for it to be cost effective. The advantage of Chosen in a list like this is simply their ability to infiltrate and summon daemons. The AC can summon a GD( will get to him in a minute) and lesser daemons and if they are dug in terrain where they get saves they will be hard to displace, especially if they have MoN as well.

Now to the core of this army; the zombies. The numerous small squads in the list above have its pros and cons. If you are getting lots of summoning rolls per turn you will be flooding your opponents troops with squads too numerous to target all of them, however with the small squad sizes they will fall quickly. I personally would take at least squads of 10. The list above had 65 daemons(zombies). So lets say you have six 10 man squads and one 5 man squad. This is still alot of squads to target even a few per turn will distract your opponent enough to allow your other squads to move forward and claim objectives, target heavy armor, etc.

Another plus in an army like this is a greater daemon. His cost is dirt cheap for his effectiveness. The greater daemons aren't the GDs of old but it doesn't matter, they are still very powerful and they still draw massive attention. You can use these to your advantage even in the unlikely situation he causes no damage to the enemy what-so-ever. At 1,500 points if he is drawing enough fire to take him out before he gets into close combat he has saved the rest of your army from taking any significant heavy firepower, which gives them another turn to advance relatively unhindered. This scenario is extremely unlikely but I wanted to point out the "worst" possibility of fielding a GD. Now more likely what will happen is he will be summoned near enemy lines(hopefully from a chosen squad closer to important targets) and he will draw attention but this is because he will shortly be slaughtering enemy squads, causing nearby squads to join in to create a tarpit or flee to avoid a similar demise. What this ultimately does is make the opponent react to your plans, rather than the other way around and if this is happening you are already winning. Now this is a GD on his own, with the support of numerous lesser daemon squads the enemy units won't know what to target let alone worry about the approaching plague marine squads or Daemon prince jumping around the battle field causing as much havoc as the GD. That is best case scenario.

A great model you could use to keep the zombie theme would be the new WHFB Giant. I've seen a great conversion from one before and I recently just bought the model for a conversion and can tell it would fit perfectly as a giant zombie. Just a bit cheaper than the GUO model too.


So for a standard army of 1,500 points I would go for something like this:

Daemon Prince: 175
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warp Time

Chosen x 5: 110
- AC
- Icon of Chaos Glory

Chosen x 5: 110
- AC
- Icon of Chaos Glory

Plague Marines x 7: 201
- AC
- Melta x2
- Personal Icon

Plague Marines x 7: 201
- AC
- Melta x2
- Personal Icon

Greater Daemon: 100

Lesser daemons x 10: 130

Lesser daemons x 10: 130

Lesser daemons x 10: 130

Lesser daemons x 10: 130

Lesser daemons x 6: 78

Total: 1495


Hope some of that helps.

This post has been edited by _Cadaver_: Feb 8 2008, 08:17 AM

[Gaz Taylor]

I quite like that list. So much I might nick it!

The only thing I'm not keen on though is the lack of ranged Anti-Tank, and I would be tempted to drop the 6 Zombie unit to get two Rhinos for the DG units so they can get a bit closer to use the Meltaguns

[BlackRaptor93]

Hi,

I myself am a BIG zombie fan (As many members here may know from my many Zombie DIY Chapters ), and i say go for it - its an interesting take, and the idea of Zombies with metal rivited to them (Basic stuff, buts all adds up to more protection from getting shot) is VERY cool!.

I say go for it, i will be watching this thread!

Thanks,

BlackRaptor93

[AdriftQuasar]

As an owner of the Priest graphic novels, I commend you for your staunch upright awesomeness. I'm a huge zombie fan and really look forward to seeing the kind of models you put out.

[Narcisissus]

There's a chapter approved in an older white dwarf that is gives rules about zombies.It's the one about the witch hunters "new"(now rather dated) codex.

[Face-Smasher]

There are rules for zombies in the Codex:Eye of Terror You can ally with them and they are cheaper and better than Lesser Daemons. Actually the rules for mutants are better than the plague zombies, so I just modeled zombies and use the mutant rules.

Here is a link to the pictures of my The Lost and The Damned zombie army, The First Cursed of Cadia

http://commissar.proboards22.com/index.cgi...0413&page=1

[Nurglitch]

I really like the ideas everyone is coming up with! You've given me some ideas for my force, so thanks for that! Also, I was wandering whether I should use wind of chaos or Nurgle's rot on my psyker. Info would be great,

Cheers,
Nurglitch

[Jiri the Corrupt...]

Zombies as generic daemons... sheer genious! Seriously that is the most awesome idea for the new 'faceless' daemons I have ever heard! I'm a great zombie fan but then again, so is everyone else on this thread, and this just gave me an excuse to go out and buy zombie models. Besides using them as daemons, you should consider the 'plague of zombies' datasheet in Apocalypse games, the zombies might be weak but you'll be fielding ACTUAL zombies in 40k! I can't wait to start ripping apart zombies and catachans and field my own horde of the living dead!

[Snijglau]

I found this looking around for regular uses for my zombies after the great success I had with the apocalypse datasheet. So two things: bless you for the lesser demons idea and yes, zombies in apocalypse are awesome.
It's the "join us" rule that does it. My opponents threw their best at them (Defiler, 20 Berserkers, 20 Genestealers, endless templates) and I had 90+ casualties in an 80 zombie horde. Tragic, yes.
Except that I converted enough of my enemies and ate enough that I still had 8 surviving zombies that won out in the end. Madness.

Thanks again for the why-didn't-I-think-of-that demon plan!