 Ancient Pre-Heresy Mortis Class Dreadnought, The Centre Piece for Usiel's Dark Angels |
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  Feb 15 2008, 02:18 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+  Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 89 Joined: 14-February 08 From: Segmentum Obscurus [Brisbane.Au] Member No.: 32668 Chapter Name:Dark Angels  |
Hey there,
This is my first post here. I have been visiting for a while though and am happy to make the acquaintance of so many Space Marine fans. I have been doing the 40K thing for about a decade now and have been a Space Marine fan for most of it. Ian Watson's Space Marine was the novel that really got me hooked, prior to that it was the grittier and more intimidating background they had during the Rouge Trader days. Anyway, this one is currently my favourite model so I present. Damael -4th Dreadnought of the Legions 2nd Battle Company-     The hull and legs are from the old Space Crusade Dreadnought. The Assault Cannons were put together using the new Raven Wing sprew, Terminator targeters (not mine I wouldn't hack them up O_o; ) and a Chaos Bike. Usi 
This post has been edited by Usiel: Feb 16 2008, 03:26 PM -------------------- "The Astartes in war is a shocking, savage sight."
~Dan Abnett - Horus Rising QUOTE Lemmingspawn: But it's an evil destructive robot so I have to speak of aesthetics and artistic appeal in hushed tones so it does not attempt to destroy me...  |
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Feb 15 2008, 03:06 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 2697 Joined: 6-May 06 From: Aberdeen, Scotland Member No.: 20677 Chapter Name:Falcon Knights |
It's always nice to see one of those old Dreads, I have two of them myself though I haven't done anything with them,
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Feb 15 2008, 09:57 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 20 Joined: 1-February 08 From: Viborg, Denmark Member No.: 32365 |
Nice. i like the old dreads but ive only been into this hobby since around 4th ed. came out, so i dont have RT stuff
 (and just one note: Dark Angels were the 1st Legion. The second legion was destroyed (or something) and everything about it is classified) -------------------- "We once served a corpse, whose will where to spread light to the galaxy. That light were false. We now spread the true light of Chaos. The corpse worshipppers say that we are traitors and heretics, just because we serve the true powers. We will not let them! we will not submit to their judgement! we will destroy them! we will serve Chaos!!" - Chaos Lord Ascantrax before the battle of Beniudia desert.
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Feb 15 2008, 11:20 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 89 Joined: 14-February 08 From: Segmentum Obscurus [Brisbane.Au] Member No.: 32668 Chapter Name:Dark Angels |
Glad you like him Ascantrax
I am referring to Damael as being part of the 2nd 'Legion' as in battle company (mainly to avoid connections to the Ravenwing which did not exist yet) as part of the entire Pre-heresy Dark Angels Legion. Usi
-------------------- "The Astartes in war is a shocking, savage sight."
~Dan Abnett - Horus Rising QUOTE Lemmingspawn: But it's an evil destructive robot so I have to speak of aesthetics and artistic appeal in hushed tones so it does not attempt to destroy me... |
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Feb 15 2008, 12:11 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 110 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Wales Member No.: 30414 Chapter Name:Dark Angels |
I do like this
I have been thinking about doing something similar for my DA army. maybe as a venerable Dreadnought -------------------- check out my 2 blogs;
The Life and Times of a Wargames Butterfly or: How I learned to stop worrying and accepted that I’ll never finish painting my figures The Siege of Vraks Playing a Forgeworld campaign |
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Feb 15 2008, 12:30 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 410 Joined: 21-August 07 From: Germany Member No.: 28713 Chapter Name:Helion Legion |
QUOTE I am referring to Damael as being part of the 2nd 'Legion' as in battle company (mainly to avoid connections to the Ravenwing which did not exist yet) as part of the entire Pre-heresy Dark Angels Legion. The Ravenwing did exist Pre-Heresy  Read Descent of Angels ?Nice Dread, I always enjoy seeing some of the old ones
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Feb 15 2008, 03:21 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 20 Joined: 1-February 08 From: Viborg, Denmark Member No.: 32365 |
QUOTE (Usiel @ Feb 15 2008, 11:38 AM) Glad you like him Ascantrax I am referring to Damael as being part of the 2nd 'Legion' as in battle company (mainly to avoid connections to the Ravenwing which did not exist yet) as part of the entire Pre-heresy Dark Angels Legion. Usi Okay. @ Captain Engelhardt, the ravenwing was created mainly to hunt down the Fallen that 'fell' during / after the heresy -------------------- "We once served a corpse, whose will where to spread light to the galaxy. That light were false. We now spread the true light of Chaos. The corpse worshipppers say that we are traitors and heretics, just because we serve the true powers. We will not let them! we will not submit to their judgement! we will destroy them! we will serve Chaos!!" - Chaos Lord Ascantrax before the battle of Beniudia desert.
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Feb 15 2008, 06:18 PM
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 ++VENATUS EXSECRATUS++  Group: ++ MODERATI ++ Posts: 8141 Joined: 3-March 03 From: near Bath, UK Member No.: 4666 Chapter Name:Dark Angels |
Hey this astounding! What else have you got that we might want to see??
Cheers I --------------------  Keeper of the Dark Fortress Armies: Deathwing and Grey Knights. 4th Co DA now retired. (I'd have more if my wife would let me) |
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Feb 15 2008, 08:33 PM
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 ++ CENTURIO COHORS ++ Group: ++ MODERATI ++ Posts: 3580 Joined: 26-May 07 From: Segmentum Tempestus Member No.: 27086 Chapter Name:Justicars of Dorn |
We should all bow in worship to the game that was Space Crusade. It giveth us this blessed model and asketh for us to use it to crush the enemies of mankind in the nameth of Him who is our lord and savior...
 Nice work bud! --------------------  "Every hours life that passes for the Hive Mind is a blaspheme, An ichor of corruption, existence that warrants no future. Only a single course of action is required for humanities safeguard...burn the Tyranids from the stars." Veteran Sgt Axios, 1st Company Ultramarines, 4th Squad Tyranid Hunters |
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Feb 16 2008, 01:15 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 89 Joined: 14-February 08 From: Segmentum Obscurus [Brisbane.Au] Member No.: 32668 Chapter Name:Dark Angels |
QUOTE (battle captain corpus @ Feb 16 2008, 05:51 AM) It giveth us this blessed model and asketh for us to use it to crush the enemies of mankind in the nameth of Him who is our lord and savior... You and I, have an understanding  Isiah: Yes I have a fair amount painted I'm just having trouble getting shots of my Tactical Marines. Also need my mates camera back. "The Ravenwing was created mainly to hunt down the Fallen that 'fell' during / after the heresy" I was under the same impression. O_o; Thanks everyone! EXULTO EMPERATOR! Usiel
-------------------- "The Astartes in war is a shocking, savage sight."
~Dan Abnett - Horus Rising QUOTE Lemmingspawn: But it's an evil destructive robot so I have to speak of aesthetics and artistic appeal in hushed tones so it does not attempt to destroy me... |
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Feb 16 2008, 02:04 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1176 Joined: 25-June 07 From: Canada Member No.: 27601 Chapter Name:Grey Knights |
Ravenwing existed as a scouting force dating right back to Pre-Imperium Caliban, they make an appearance in Descent of Angels. After the Heresey they switched over to focusing on hunting down Fallen marines. No word for certain on if they were second company pre-heresy for certain though.
-------------------- Everything written by GW and its subsidiaries (Black Library, Sabertooth Games, et al) is official, canon, and otherwise irrefutably part of the 40K universe.
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Feb 16 2008, 02:55 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 570 Joined: 16-January 07 From: SW london (U.K.) Member No.: 24789 Chapter Name:Dark Angels 3rd Battle Company |
hail fellow Battle-Brother! i love your Space Crusade derived Dreadnought. it is a great conversion and i like the way its painted alot. i owned a couple of copies of Space Crusade and Advanced Space Crusade back when i was 12 or 13 and i thought the chaos dreadnought was a really cool model as well as the chaos androids. im now 30 and still enjoy the hobby tremendously. hope to see your tactical squad up on here soon. good luck getting a hold of a camera.
with regards to the Ravenwing, after reading Decent of Angels, it would indicate that there was a Ravenwing formation in the Pre-Heresy days and they were primarily a scout/infiltration type formation. i think they would have used bikes and speeders but their organisation was overhauled after the Horus Heresy** when the Legion was split up into the various successor Chapters and the Dark Angels Chapter proper. thus becoming the 2nd Company in all the DA & successor Chapters. but thats just my own opinion. **at this time they would have also been given the task of hunting the Fallen --------------------  +++ IN DEDICATO IMPERATUM SUPERNE ULTRA ARTICULO MORTIS +++ Battle Captain Ariel Company Master of the Dark Angels 3rd Battle Company: "The hunt for the Fallen continues brother until every last one of those that betrayed us is found and made to repent..." Apocalyp$e: 'The scale is off. I don't think of it as the tanks being to small. but the infantry models being soo damn big... I don't want the tanks getting any bigger than what they are, 'then I have a table full of toy trucks, and how the hell am I supposed to explain THAT to the chicks... I barely slip by with "their not not toys, they are peices in a tactical wargame"' |
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Feb 16 2008, 03:21 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 89 Joined: 14-February 08 From: Segmentum Obscurus [Brisbane.Au] Member No.: 32668 Chapter Name:Dark Angels |
Well met Brother Kanan, Damael serves our chapter well.
I highly recommend pulling out your old Crusade Dreads if you still have them. They are really cool with a bit of tinkering. I am trying to get my hands on another one to chop into a more dynamic pose and slap a white Deathwing scheme on it. Here are the VDR stats for Damael if your interested. I have been pondering knocking 20% off that total as VDR is apparently about 30% more than what you would normally pay. (To any who would gripe: I am aware these rules have been out of circulation for about 5 years, I just prefer a little accuracy to the new Apocalypse technique.) Damael Points/Model: 209 WS 4 BS 4 S 5 Front 12 Side 12 Rear 10 I 4 A 1 Type: Walker. Size: Normal. Speed: Walker. Weapons: 2 x Assault Cannons, Twin-linked Heavy Bolters Special Options: Venerable & Extra Armour Vehicle Category: Elite Structure Points: 0 QUOTE Math: Armour facings: Front 12 = 10pts, Sides 12 = 20 x 2 = 40pts, Rear 10 = 10pts: 60pts Fully Armoured: 43-46 Armour Points: 10pts Speed: Normal + Normal Size: 10pts Weapons: 104pts 2 x Assault Cannons 35pts each = 70pts Twin-linked + 50% Heavy bolter 20pts + 10pts = 30pts Close Combat Weapon: 1 x WS 4 x A 1 = 4pts Codex Vehicle Upgrades: 25pts Venerable: 20pts Extra Armour: 5pts Total: 209pts Usi
This post has been edited by Usiel: Feb 16 2008, 03:25 PM -------------------- "The Astartes in war is a shocking, savage sight."
~Dan Abnett - Horus Rising QUOTE Lemmingspawn: But it's an evil destructive robot so I have to speak of aesthetics and artistic appeal in hushed tones so it does not attempt to destroy me... |
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Feb 16 2008, 04:32 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 90 Joined: 17-February 04 From: Indianapolis, IN Member No.: 9143 Chapter Name:Crimson Fists |
I would think that 200 points was quite reasonable for 8 rending shots and 3 twin-linked heavy bolter shots.
The model is fantastic, though. Well done! -------------------- |
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Feb 16 2008, 06:11 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 70 Joined: 28-October 07 Member No.: 30184 |
I love it! It's great to see the old Space Crusade dread- brings back so many happy memories. If I had a spare one I'd definitely convert it in a similar way to this, but I've only got the one.
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Feb 16 2008, 06:53 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 19 Joined: 6-February 08 Member No.: 32466 |
cool dread, i have an unpainted space crusade box in my cupboard that might get a look in sometime soon, any plans for any of the other marines in the box or do you only have the dread?
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Feb 17 2008, 03:27 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 89 Joined: 14-February 08 From: Segmentum Obscurus [Brisbane.Au] Member No.: 32668 Chapter Name:Dark Angels |
QUOTE (wienas @ Feb 17 2008, 01:50 AM) I would think that 200 points was quite reasonable for 8 rending shots and 3 twin-linked heavy bolter shots. Yeah you have a point there  I don't mind paying that much to see him on the Table.Ordo =II= Malleus: I have the complete set, but the Marines are horrendous they are not even close to the quality of the Dread. The 'Chaos Androids', Genestealers and especially the Traitor Marines are pretty nice though and I will probably paint them. Thanks again all! Usi
-------------------- "The Astartes in war is a shocking, savage sight."
~Dan Abnett - Horus Rising QUOTE Lemmingspawn: But it's an evil destructive robot so I have to speak of aesthetics and artistic appeal in hushed tones so it does not attempt to destroy me... |
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Feb 17 2008, 08:58 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 35 Joined: 1-February 08 From: Middlesbrough, UK Member No.: 32376 Chapter Name:Children of Slaanesh |
Amazing, I always liked the look of Space Crusade, but never managed to get a set, I did get the computer game for the Commodore 64 though
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Feb 17 2008, 11:18 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 4236 Joined: 20-August 02 From: Outer fringes of the known universe. Member No.: 317 Chapter Name:Dark Angels 4th Company |
OLD SCHOOL! Love those old guys. I like the conversion. Pretty lethal looking.
Nice work. Although its like seeing a vintage car turned into a hot rod. You like the result but its sad to see the orginal modified.
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Feb 17 2008, 04:05 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 314 Joined: 23-May 07 Member No.: 27039 |
Excellent job, its always good to see the old models brought back to glory... Im actaully glad to see the weapons replaced with modern versions, since as much as i like the Space Crusade, i must say that weapon models of that era were... too un-imperial for my liking.
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Feb 18 2008, 01:39 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 570 Joined: 16-January 07 From: SW london (U.K.) Member No.: 24789 Chapter Name:Dark Angels 3rd Battle Company |
thanks Usiel for posting up some rules. sadly i have moved quite a few times since my childhood days and i really wish it wasnt the case but all my early miniatures ect are lost for all time. including my very own mint copy of Rogue Trader, and of course all my Sapce Crusade stuff *cue funeral symphony* anyways i will be sure to check ebay in the hope of finding a Space Crusade box set, you never know. but i think what you have done is awesome. great work Battle-Brother! look forward to seeing more from you. i will be keeping an eye out for your posts.
adios -------------------- +++ IN DEDICATO IMPERATUM SUPERNE ULTRA ARTICULO MORTIS +++ Battle Captain Ariel Company Master of the Dark Angels 3rd Battle Company: "The hunt for the Fallen continues brother until every last one of those that betrayed us is found and made to repent..." Apocalyp$e: 'The scale is off. I don't think of it as the tanks being to small. but the infantry models being soo damn big... I don't want the tanks getting any bigger than what they are, 'then I have a table full of toy trucks, and how the hell am I supposed to explain THAT to the chicks... I barely slip by with "their not not toys, they are peices in a tactical wargame"' |
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