 Modelling: Doghouse Pattern Truescale Marines, Now how to build one in less than twenty minutes!!! |
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 Feb 18 2008, 08:03 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+  Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 3643 Joined: 21-August 02 From: Basingstoke, UK Member No.: 371 Chapter Name:Summoners  |
So what is "Truescale"?
Over the years myself and a few other like minded individuals have pioneered a technique which has become known as "true-scale" a process that involves making marines bigger basically. For myself this began way back in 2002 with my White Scorpion marines seen below. Not content with regular plastics I wanted something bigger that fitted with the background materia and artworkl surrounding the Astartes. I wanted larger than life heroes. My first Truescale attempt.  This process was later refined leading to my Pre-Heresy World Eaters and the more successful Gothic pattern marines which I created initially for a Dark Angels army and later used on my Pre-Heresy Night Lords. None of which were ever finished except for the captain but both provided me with an invaluable insight to how to make marines look that more imposing on the tabletop. "Gothic pattern" Dark Angels  Truescale Pre-Heresy World Eaters  Truescale Adeptus Astartes  The Truescale marines that came about as a result this process lead me to create the latest incarnation that most people associate with Truescale and is an attempt to make marines that look the part of the eight foot warriors that they are. So in short they look more like the marines that you see in the likes of Dawn of War II or infamous Crimson Fist marine as seen in the fourth edition rule book. Compared to regular human models they stand towering over the regular plastic marines and terrifying your opponents. Over the next few updates to this tutorial I will be providing details of the my most requested tutorial to date, hopefully catering to most skill levels. After years of toying around with the concept of truescale marines this is probably the most used method for creating bigger marines in the hobby to day. Although the process had become mostly associated with Pre-Heresy I will be demonstrating different techniques that will allow you to include these behemoths in your regular and Chaos Space Marine armies. Part Two to follow... This post has been edited by Doghouse: Jul 28 2011, 12:12 AM -------------------- |
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Feb 18 2008, 08:21 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 3643 Joined: 21-August 02 From: Basingstoke, UK Member No.: 371 Chapter Name:Summoners |
So what do I need?
First of all you'll need the following recommended components to build your own Actual Scale astartes: Terminator Legs Terminator Assault squad Storm Shield arms Terminator Stormbolter arms Terminator shoulder pads Spare plastic marine arms Marine Heads/helmets Greenstuff or Procreate Plastic rod (or bits of sprue will do) Sculpting/modeling tools such as the GW sculpting tool, a sharp modeling knife, clippers, etc. Polystyrene cement/Super Glue Spare weapons such as bolters. Creating one of these Astartes will seem daunting at first due to the amount of greenstuff work involved but don't be put off just yet. I'll be doing my best to provide step by step instructions that will result in something that looks like this guy here.  With a bit of practice and experiance you'll be able to create more varied positions and armour variants but for the time being we will be focusing on constructing a stripped down Mk VII marine. -------------------- |
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Feb 18 2008, 08:54 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 2280 Joined: 14-January 08 From: Wokingham, Berks, UK Member No.: 31925 Chapter Name:Space Wolves |
so in response to my question would i basically have to either sculpt or plasticard in extentions if i were to do this for terminators?
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Feb 19 2008, 12:15 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 413 Joined: 25-September 07 From: Wales Member No.: 29466 Chapter Name:Blood Scorpions |
oh wow...these look amazing, Doghouse! is there no limit to your powers?
id love to make a bunch of these, for sure! i think i can see how construction works - best of luck making that Tutorial - i'll be reading it! Cheers, <<Damascus>> -------------------- |
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Feb 19 2008, 01:35 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1597 Joined: 9-August 04 From: Halloween Town Member No.: 12400 Chapter Name: The All Hallows Guard |
Couldn't you do plasticard to space out a normal marine torso, maybe even do something like that for the arms and bulk the out with green stuff? I don't exactly have 9 sets of Storm Shield arms lying around. I can't imagine many people do.
I love the concept, though. The pre-heresy Night Lord captain or sergeant looks like a true astartes, mate. Alpha -------------------- The Cult of Orange : No one can withstand our...color.
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Feb 19 2008, 01:43 AM
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 ++MODERATI VERBUM++  Group: ++ MODERATI CEDO ++ Posts: 2891 Joined: 8-October 02 From: Hooks, Texas Member No.: 1805 Chapter Name:Night Lords, Imperial Fists |
welcome back however temporary it is and await this tut impatentily
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Feb 19 2008, 01:57 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 831 Joined: 8-July 06 From: Modesto, CA Member No.: 21783 Chapter Name:White Crusaders, Iron Saints |
Well. My question has been answered. (From the true scale topic)
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Feb 19 2008, 03:50 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1750 Joined: 23-March 05 Member No.: 16834 |
always phenomenal doghouse continue continue!
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Feb 20 2008, 07:02 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 342 Joined: 27-February 07 From: Manchestrer,UK !! Member No.: 25438 Chapter Name:Space Wolves |
Great doghouse, really puts my marines to shame. Im starting some of these tonight (working it out myself by sculpts)
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Feb 20 2008, 09:16 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 4309 Joined: 8-August 06 Member No.: 22216 Chapter Name:Crimson Guardians Night Lords |
youre back Oh my god thank you, i missed your tutorials and advice terribly welcome back!
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Feb 21 2008, 08:28 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 6 Joined: 20-February 08 From: australia Member No.: 32806 Chapter Name:Ultramarines 4th company |
when i first saw this page and the words "life size" i though you mint something like this
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Feb 21 2008, 04:45 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 63 Joined: 25-November 07 Member No.: 30747 |
QUOTE (Uriel Vintris @ Feb 21 2008, 02:13 AM) when i first saw this page and the words "life size" i though you mint something like this I wish I had that kind of free time. I don't think I would bother wearing anything else. |
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Feb 23 2008, 01:20 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 721 Joined: 4-November 07 From: Scotland Member No.: 30348 Chapter Name:Thousand sons |
Wow, Doghouse, that mini with the termie parts is awesome.
I really wish i could make some like him, but alas, my greenstuff skills need alot of refining first  Can't wait to see more 
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Feb 27 2008, 09:23 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 595 Joined: 29-September 07 From: Fairbanks, Alaska Member No.: 29546 Chapter Name:The August Hunt |
I am much interested Doghouse! I was actually in the process of planning my next force. A force of berserkers and this is just the thing I need to make them stand out and scare the world!
 Lookin forward to the rest of this tutorial. keep me posted. =D= -------------------- QUOTE (number6 @ May 22 2008, 07:06 AM) We are the Ordo Malleus. We should have some hammers somewhere, don't you think? ;)  |
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Feb 27 2008, 09:49 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 3643 Joined: 21-August 02 From: Basingstoke, UK Member No.: 371 Chapter Name:Summoners |
Thanks for your support guys, the second part will be up asap.
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Mar 4 2008, 02:40 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 4 Joined: 3-March 08 Member No.: 33110 |
QUOTE (Uriel Vintris @ Feb 21 2008, 08:13 AM) when i first saw this page and the words "life size" i though you mint something like this Throne alive! tell me those are real! and if they are, how are they made, i must know how these are made! -------------------- "And the Lord spake, saying,
"First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." |
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Mar 4 2008, 05:01 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 413 Joined: 25-September 07 From: Wales Member No.: 29466 Chapter Name:Blood Scorpions |
hey doghouse, i hope you havnt given up! i really would like to make a few of these
@ Brother Zim. a Member of the B&C once made a guide to build SM suits. they were slightly better than the aforementioned marines. im sorry i dont know where from, but you could use Searchy-fu or look around. Cheers Guys! <<Damascus>> -------------------- |
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Mar 4 2008, 08:20 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 595 Joined: 29-September 07 From: Fairbanks, Alaska Member No.: 29546 Chapter Name:The August Hunt |
They're from www.nimbacreations.com. Apparently they were used in a game called "Final Liberation". Some Epic 40k game or something. I've seen plenty of other suits but I think these ones take the cake thus far.
=D= -------------------- QUOTE (number6 @ May 22 2008, 07:06 AM) We are the Ordo Malleus. We should have some hammers somewhere, don't you think? ;) |
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Mar 5 2008, 01:29 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 4 Joined: 3-March 08 Member No.: 33110 |
yeah, i fired off an email to the guys at nimbus creations asking for ideas about how to make them, but as for using searchy-fu, i wouldnt even know what start searching for, not that its goign to stop me!
-------------------- "And the Lord spake, saying,
"First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it." |
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Mar 8 2008, 01:13 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1919 Joined: 15-September 07 From: Rugby, UK Member No.: 29230 Chapter Name:Varangian Guard, Alpha Legion |
I want those suits!!! Now!!! But in Dark Angels colours. I dont like Ultramarines... Still I love your marines Doghouse. Can I have one please? Dark Angel preferably...
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Mar 18 2008, 09:21 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 287 Joined: 15-September 07 From: ATL, Georgia, USA Member No.: 29233 Chapter Name:Blood Drinkers |
hmmm... any chance of an update doghouse?
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Mar 22 2008, 09:49 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 3643 Joined: 21-August 02 From: Basingstoke, UK Member No.: 371 Chapter Name:Summoners |
Will be up asap, I'm completely snowed under with real life stuff at the moment.
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Mar 23 2008, 08:55 AM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 711 Joined: 28-April 04 From: Copenhagen, Denmark Member No.: 10707 Chapter Name:Raven Guard, Night Lords |
Welcome Home Doghouse,
I must admit I too am waiting for the next installment in this Tutorial Luther - the fallen -------------------- QUOTE You're not emo, You're a pale industrial military metal head - Nephren-Ka on me QUOTE (Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen @ Feb 2 2011, 12:56 AM) They may well approach a Guard commander and say "I require a squad of your finest." Or they can take whatever psyker or astropath they need, tech priest, accountant... And now my Inquisitor has to have his own accountant with him at all times.. :P My work can be found here and my Blog Here |
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Mar 23 2008, 08:21 PM
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 +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 956 Joined: 28-July 06 From: Wainwright, Canada Member No.: 22056 Chapter Name:Ultramarine 2nd Company |
Awsome! The Grand Master of True Scale is back! I knew the call of plastic was to strong to keep you away for long!
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Mar 28 2008, 05:25 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 287 Joined: 15-September 07 From: ATL, Georgia, USA Member No.: 29233 Chapter Name:Blood Drinkers |
QUOTE (Doghouse @ Mar 22 2008, 05:34 PM) Will be up asap, I'm completely snowed under with real life stuff at the moment.  yay i can't wait... I'll only be making one batch.
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