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post Jul 4 2008, 06:02 PM
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I've heard of all the SM formations except for the Deathknell and Skyhammer Orbital Strike Forces. Anybody know what they are?


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post Jul 4 2008, 06:57 PM
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No Inqusition Data Sheets. sad.gif

Would have been an ideal place to redo the Deathwatch Kill Team...

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I've got sizable DH and WH forces, and it disturbs me to see no mention of either in the "Warriors of the Future" in the current US WD or in the Apoc reloaded ToC, above.


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i thought this was too include the online ones???
i can see a few of them but barely any which i suppose is a good thing


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Some interesting things there. Quite a few for the demons as well!


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So does anybody have a problem with fighting 2 battle companies and a first company on one table? biggrin.gif
Holly crap are the marines going to clean house in appoc now.
On and the bathrobe brigade finally gets a dedicated formaiton.


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hmmm I wonder what the IG's Imperial Shield Infantry Company will be devil.gif

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QUOTE (brother Hastatus @ Jul 4 2008, 08:12 PM) *
So does anybody have a problem with fighting 2 battle companies and a first company on one table?


More importantly, who has 100 terminators??


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Do Chaos still get the option to use all thier, and all the Imperial Data Sheets? I really hope not...
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It's definitely awesome that they've included data-sheets for the First and Tenth Companies. I'm curious about the 'Deathknell' (awesome name) and 'Skyhammer', though. It can't be anything from Forgeworld, which rules out a Damocles, so I'm guess it must involve either a bunch of Drop Pods or 3+ Thunderhawks ohmy.gif...


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QUOTE (Syphid @ Jul 4 2008, 04:43 PM) *
QUOTE (brother Hastatus @ Jul 4 2008, 08:12 PM) *
So does anybody have a problem with fighting 2 battle companies and a first company on one table?


More importantly, who has 100 terminators??


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Oh come on... I can't be the only one who thought it was an awesome idea...
Besides with the new black reach box I can see people starting to rack up crazy nubmers of termies.


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I like the sound of that Deathwing Redemption Force.


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QUOTE (pwrserge @ Jul 4 2008, 09:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Syphid @ Jul 4 2008, 04:43 PM) *
QUOTE (brother Hastatus @ Jul 4 2008, 08:12 PM) *
So does anybody have a problem with fighting 2 battle companies and a first company on one table?


More importantly, who has 100 terminators??


- raises his hand and looks a round a mostly quiet room -

Oh come on... I can't be the only one who thought it was an awesome idea...
Besides with the new black reach box I can see people starting to rack up crazy nubmers of termies.


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Oh, and the stormlord is supposedly the cheesesword: A transport based on the baneblade chassis holding 40 models and equipped with a vulcan mega-bolter. Supposedly it's open-topped, so passengers can shoot and the VMB can shoot twice if it hasn't moved. So, who's parking 8 devastators squads with 4 plasma cannons each in a bunker that shells 30 St6 Ap 3 shots?

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The hard part is PAINTING them. (I'm only ~30% done.) I thought painting a battle company was hard.

As for the stormlord...
I see it more as a way to hold a full platoon of guard in something that is immune to bolter fire... biggrin.gif


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i have got about 55 terminators so i would need another 45
and only about 10-15 of the 55 have paint(note i didnt say finished just have paint biggrin.gif )
and yes i am definatly going to increase the number with the black reach box(but only because i want the cheap orks laugh.gif and the dreadnought to make a looted dreadnought)

i hate that there is another stompa
i wonder whats different about this one compared to the other 2
its as if gw is trying to get me to build one but i must resist my orks dont need one
i must resist the coolness of a stompa

some of the names for things sound like they are made up to make people exited
because i havnt got a clue what half of the things are
like tetragon of darkness
what is it?
it reminds me of my maths teacher
i am sure a tetragon is a shape
maby gw is trying to tell us math is evil!

the great promenade of excess sounds cool and i am going to make a little guess and say it is slaanesh so i may have something with a cool name to add to my army
yay something with a cool name for slaanesh
it will probly be something with really rubish rules now i have said that

i wonder if the orbital strike force is like a drop pod thing or if its big nuking laser from the sky kind of thing

the tyranids names sound abit worrying like living fortress and eye of the hive

i wonder what lord castellans supreme command is
its sounds cool because it has supreme in the name

its weird there is no inquisitor or dark eldar stuff
although i guess the inquisitors can use stuff from space marines and guards and the only reason they need to give is because the inquisitor wants it
and dark eldar didnt seem to have much in the first book so its weird they didnt get anything in this one
maby they dont use alot of the big things or maby they can use eldar stuff without much of a reason(i dont know much dark eldar fluff)


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QUOTE (Syphid @ Jul 4 2008, 11:43 PM) *
QUOTE (brother Hastatus @ Jul 4 2008, 08:12 PM) *
So does anybody have a problem with fighting 2 battle companies and a first company on one table?


More importantly, who has 100 terminators??

Guys who bought Deathwing as a special order several months ago biggrin.gif (three Terminator HQs, 100 Terminators and 5 Land Raiders for a bit more than $1000).

edit: no, I'm not nearly that rich, sadly.

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Why does no one seem to realize that a typical 1st Co. only has 50 Terminators while the rest are Veterans?


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If the Ultramarine Honour Guard are in this, I doubt they will be in the next Space Marine codex.


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QUOTE (pwrserge @ Jul 4 2008, 02:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Syphid @ Jul 4 2008, 04:43 PM) *
QUOTE (brother Hastatus @ Jul 4 2008, 08:12 PM) *
So does anybody have a problem with fighting 2 battle companies and a first company on one table?


More importantly, who has 100 terminators??


- raises his hand and looks a round a mostly quiet room -

Oh come on... I can't be the only one who thought it was an awesome idea...
Besides with the new black reach box I can see people starting to rack up crazy nubmers of termies.


I don't have 100 termies, but I do have an entire first company as dictated in the 3rd ed SM codex of 75 tactical dreadnought suits and 25 more vets in PA.

So I think it counts.


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A an old book with some new pics. Hardly worth the effort if you ask me.

And they even left out some races, they should look more on the internet for inspiration.


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QUOTE (boreas @ Jul 4 2008, 05:41 PM) *
Oh, and the stormlord is supposedly the cheesesword: A transport based on the baneblade chassis holding 40 models and equipped with a vulcan mega-bolter. Supposedly it's open-topped, so passengers can shoot and the VMB can shoot twice if it hasn't moved. So, who's parking 8 devastators squads with 4 plasma cannons each in a bunker that shells 30 St6 Ap 3 shots?

Phil


Great, another Super Heavy I have to buy and get painted. I was thinking about picking up the the Marcharius Vulcan but went with the Vanquisher instead, not knowing about that shooting twice rule. It'll go great with with my Gorgon - super heavy transports for everyone!

Now, anyone know what the latin words for Cheese and Sword are? That'll make a great name.


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QUOTE (The Emperor's Champion @ Jul 5 2008, 10:50 AM) *
Why does no one seem to realize that a typical 1st Co. only has 50 Terminators while the rest are Veterans?

I'm certain this fact will be reflected in the 1st Company Datasheet: "up to 20 Terminator squads and up to 10 Sternguard squads and possibly up to 10 Vanguard squads, all adding up to 100 squad members", or something like that. It probably won't be all terminators.

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Where is this info that a first company only has 50 TDA suits located?

The only source I have seen was in the third ed SM codex that states 74 suits of TDA are in the ultramarine first company. (I use that as a basis of generic average for chapters access to TDA)


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