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Nov 22 2008, 02:25 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + ADEPTUS DOMUS + Posts: 257 Joined: 14-July 05 From: Mar del Plata, Argentina (land of tango, beautiful women, and corrupt politicians...) Member No.: 18490 |
Well...
It's certainly been a long time, fellow brothers! And in that time, there have been plenty of Dark Millenium projects for me, but not all of them can be shown just yet, nor did I have the time to properly post the ones I could show... Fortunately (and after much nagging by Commissar Molotov to start this mega-thread), I have some time off today and I think I can extensively explain my motivations and share some details on the thoughts and ideas that popped into my head when I finally decided to remake al of my Primarchs and illustrate the ones I hadn't go to... Everything started out when a client asked me for an Emperor image; quite a daunting task! But I love a challenge and The Emperor is certainly that and even more. I posted Him here on the boards to great compliments (which I'm really thankful for!) and I think it's only fitting to post him up again, just to make this thread consistent (and in case some of you want to refresh your memory): ![]() After that, I tackled Horus, at the bidding of the same client and that's when I discovered that my passion for the old Primarch legends had been rekindled. I also began forging the composition that I would later apply to al of the Emperor's Sons, thus giving them coherence and a very epic and 'portrait'-like quality that I thought was very fitting. Also, loyalists would be on our right, facing left, and viceversa for the traitors, enhancing their rivalry: ![]() So, now I'd done the greatest antagonists in the whole history of Mankind; what next? I decided to keep at this re-imagining on my own and did a quick sketch of an updated Lion El'Jonson, using the old design I'd worked on when I first rendered him. I was very pleased with the result and I saw that my skills had improved even though I hadn't noticed it (thank goodness!) This one was much closer to my vision than the last and so I showed it with pride to my client, knowing he'd like to see it: ![]() The previous image being this one (for your comparison): LEONIS PROELIATORIS He liked it so much, in fact, that he proposed to me a project I couldn't turn down: to render all of the Primarchs in this style for him and update the ones I'd already done. I dubbed the endeavour Libris Primaris (The Book of the First) and began my work on the next remake: Sanguinius. ![]() The prior image being this one (for your comparison): IN NOMINE SANGUIS In these two images I shaped up most of what I'd continue using on the project at large, such as the Aquilla motif, adapted to each Legion iconography, and the subtle environment of the backgrounds enhacing the portrait of the Primarchs; often trying to show their homeworlds, like the Forests of Caliban, or the System of Baal seen from the wastelands of Sanguinius's abode in Baal Secundus. I'm very pleased, and quite proud (as I've said) of how they're turning out; the client is too, and the people that have been on my deviantART Gallery will agree they've been quite successful there as well. I think I've achieved a certain level with my art that I can be happy with even though there's LOTS of room for improvement and that's mainly why I'm showing these around. The best way to know if I'm doing the right thing (both fluff-wise and image-wise) is to ask the fans themselves; you! The brothers that have wached my art evolve from the first (now horrific -at least in my eyes-) illustrations to these pieces. Bear in mind that I don't have a lot of time these days and will not be able to reply to all of the messages I get (in case I get any!) like I used to, though I'll try to do my best. I also won't be able to take a lot of requests for specific things you'd like to see/think should go in the imagery itself, since the client is the one to have the final call on these, BUT, I do like to have my fluff right, so any indications/suggestions/opinions/critiques are MORE than welcome. It's why I'm posting these after all! Thsi thread will be, thus, a chronicle of all the Primarchs, which will be posted as I finish them, one by one. So, I leave you now with my latest illustration in this project: the Iron Warrior's Primarch Perturabo. ![]() I liked this one because of the sheer bulk of the armour, that looks like a siege-wall indeed. I also liked the details on Forgebreaker and the background, with the siege turrets firing away and the subtle hint of the Imperial city behind it. You'll be the judges, brothers! I hope to hear whatever you can think of, from compliments to the most terrible critique and see you all soon with the next in line: a remake of my famous Rogal Dorn! Until soon! Aerion the Faithful This post has been edited by Aerion the Faithful: Jun 18 2010, 07:03 PM -------------------- O what fine times, this Age of Iron!
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Nov 22 2008, 02:34 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 932 Joined: 24-April 03 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Member No.: 5473 Chapter Name:The Emperor's Word |
Very nice Aerion, I think Perturabo is my favourite of your Primarchs so far.
Khrangar -------------------- Yay! At the BnC everyone is a Mod! :D The Emperor's Word Commissioned Sons of Guilliman My Painting Bone Tutorial Army finished: Sons of Guilliman <- 1500 Points - Sons of Guilliman <- 2000 Points |
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Nov 22 2008, 02:50 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1561 Joined: 2-October 04 From: Edmonton Member No.: 13391 Chapter Name:None At the Moment |
He's perfect just what i have always thought he should look like a no nonsense stomp a mud hole in yeah construction worker with no time for skirts suits and the rest of you's.
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Nov 22 2008, 03:03 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: +EXCOMMUNICATUS+ Posts: 4745 Joined: 19-August 02 Member No.: 176 |
...and still no Vulkan or even one single green marine
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Nov 22 2008, 03:08 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 3389 Joined: 8-August 06 Member No.: 22216 Chapter Name:Crimson Guardians Night Lords |
i really like the perturabo, but the sanguinus something seems off?
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Nov 22 2008, 09:52 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 211 Joined: 8-June 04 From: Eiffel-tower City Member No.: 11392 Chapter Name:Space Sharks, 5th Co. |
Great as usually Aerion el Magnífico ! I too, especially like Perturabo, he looks very impressive and stubborn
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Nov 22 2008, 10:43 AM
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++SCRIBERE NOVELLUS++ Group: ++ CODICIER ++ Posts: 4087 Joined: 27-June 06 From: Oz, Queenslander! Member No.: 21629 Chapter Name:Black Templars |
Finally
The Lion is nicely done. The previous piece you did of the Lion really seemed to have a lot of emotion in it, something this piece doesn't seem to have quite as much of. He looks a little too at peace with himself in this one. Sanguinius looks quite noble in this one. In your previous work he looked quite feral but in this one, his regalness is really shown. Perturabo grows on me each time I look at him. The little details really show here and it comes off well. The only criticism I would make is that the background needs a bit more colour. I know you don't want to detract from the focus too much but a few more patches of colour in the background would enhance the piece overall, I think. -------------------- QUOTE (Ace Debonair) Criticism by the Librarium staff when they're on the warpath can be like a bowling ball to the face. A bowling ball that thinks you can do better, and wants to help, but a bowling ball nonetheless. |
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Nov 22 2008, 10:43 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 688 Joined: 15-November 04 From: Tethys Member No.: 14459 Chapter Name:Space Sharks, 3rd Co. |
Wow! Perty turned out fantastic!
So who's next? To be fair you need another traitor (Go Mortarion!!) but I agree that a Vulkan pic would be wicked cool. -T. -------------------- Captain of the Space Sharks 3rd Co.
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Nov 22 2008, 11:41 AM
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![]() ++RHETOR ORIENS ASTRUM++ Group: ++ MODERATI ++ Posts: 10692 Joined: 21-August 02 From: Portugal Member No.: 404 Chapter Name:Angels of Vigilance |
the primarchs redux are a step above the first version.. the coloring and the bacground really put something extra on them.
I really like perturabo rendition. Massive armour, stern features. Top notch! -------------------- |
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Nov 22 2008, 12:13 PM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 646 Joined: 27-July 06 From: Norway Member No.: 22046 Chapter Name:Warriors Eternal |
I have been waiting for you to redo the Primarchs for so long, and now its finally happening. I'm really liking the new style with the backgrounds and everything, even though I liked the old style as well, because of the scenes you created(like Lion staring at his helmet, Ferrus amazed by his new hands).
The lion looked so much better than he did before, especially his face which was the one thing that I didn't like about the first one. The grey area on his hair is a very cool idea, but it doesn't look right to me. And the helmet's snout peice looks abit off too. Now, I'm no artist, but that is just how I feel. The pic is perfect otherwise. Perturabo is just one massive peice of awsomeness! Glad too see a traitor Primarch. Only thing I can point out is that the Hammer head should have been bigger. Can't wait to see Dorn: my fave! -------------------- |
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Nov 22 2008, 06:38 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 201 Joined: 21-August 02 From: Ohio, Newark Member No.: 349 |
I saw these on your deviant page and was waiting for them to appear here. They are excellent! I loved you limited palette work on early stuff, but this current batch is awe striking. Thank you for sharing you labors.
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Nov 22 2008, 08:24 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1174 Joined: 8-October 06 From: London, England. Member No.: 23112 Chapter Name:The Star Lords. |
I have to say mate that i think Perturabo, The Emperor and Horus are the best three, they have that something extra i think, and i especially love the armour look on Perturabo.
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Nov 22 2008, 09:52 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 242 Joined: 3-July 08 From: belgium Member No.: 36234 Chapter Name:Iron Wariors, Exorcists,... |
that is by far the best pick of Perturabo i have ever seen
consider it stolen for my desk background ...and still no Vulkan or even one single green marine you shoud be used to it by now -------------------- |
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Nov 22 2008, 10:37 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 741 Joined: 22-August 02 Member No.: 494 |
Incredible. Absolutely incredible.
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Nov 22 2008, 11:26 PM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1320 Joined: 15-September 07 From: Rugby, UK Member No.: 29230 Chapter Name:Knights Griffon |
Nice. Love the anime look. I do my artwork more like realistic portrait sketches. Brilliant work on the Lion. Splinter is gonna love this!
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Nov 23 2008, 12:33 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 844 Joined: 21-October 06 From: New Mexico Member No.: 23340 Chapter Name:Space Wolves! |
Lookin really good man, loving Ole Iron Bones.
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Nov 23 2008, 01:16 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 26 Joined: 25-October 08 Member No.: 40022 |
Awesome job! Can I make a request about the next Primarchs? Corax and Magnus the Red. I'd love to see your take on them.
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Nov 23 2008, 03:32 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1451 Joined: 1-February 08 From: Toronto, ON Member No.: 32371 Chapter Name:Blood Angels |
Great to see some of your work again. I always look forward to any of it. This all looks very amazing as usual, your skillz are those of the greatest muses.
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Nov 23 2008, 05:15 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + ADEPTUS DOMUS + Posts: 257 Joined: 14-July 05 From: Mar del Plata, Argentina (land of tango, beautiful women, and corrupt politicians...) Member No.: 18490 |
Thank you very much for the compliments and excellent review, brothers! I'm really happy that you're liking these new takes on some of my old designs (such as Sanguinius and the Lion) and approving so much the new ones, especially Perturabo.
I'd loe to address each of you individually, but as I said in my first post, tme is scarse as of late; however, I would like to say a couple of things in response to some of your comments, so you can see I've read and take them al into account! Perturabo seems to be, by far, the best Primarch I've done up until this point, and I think it shows that with each piece I keep on improving and gaining more confidence in my colouring and overall composition and technique. I honestly can't choose one right now, as every single one of these pieces are very dear to me and I think they're all 'my best'. I really like the stren look on the Lion, for example, and the forests of Caliban behind him, as well as the shoulderpad and tones of the armour. I like Sanguinius's wings and his aloft look, as if he was truly superior; oh, and the Moons of Baal! I like those a GREAT deal. Perturabo, Horus and the Emperor, you've all said pretty much how I feel about them. As for your critiques, I do see what you say regarding some thing being 'off', though not particularly in the Sanguinius piece, as pointed out. There are always small thing to tune up, and as the images move forward I think I'll achieve a reasonable point of 'all around cool'. The gray-ish hair on the Lion was intended to stand out a bit more, as well as the snout on the helmet, to provide a sort of 'veteran' look to him. I always pictured him as middle-aged. The Hammer of Perturabo is something I discussed with Molotov and Tiberius, and I told them that if it'd been bigger, it would've detracted a bit from the whole, since the added lightning power would've eaten up a LOT of space; also, the backgroud on him is slightly more gray and colourless, to sort of merge it with the armour and the no-nonsense nature of this Primarch's creations. Ideally, I'll be working on two Primarchs a month, this month covering Perturabo and... Rogal Dorn! I'll update his hair (since he's a blonde, I take it), but keep the moustache that made him famous in my previous image! Finally, I'd like to thank everyone again and please, feel free to keep suggesting Primarchs, or even helping out with the one I'm working on right now. Now you know it's going to be Dorn, so if you think you've got something to say that'd look cool I'd certainly like to hear it! Codex Grey mentioned the fact that I made 'secenes' previously, and that's something that has been rattling in my head since I began this remake... what if, after I was through with these portraits, I worked up some classic, epic scenes? Like Horus versus Sanguinius? Or the fight between Ferrus and Fulgrim? Or the original Death GUad before the Emperor descended upon Barbarus?... Would you care to see some of that? Until soon and thank you again! Aerion.- This post has been edited by Aerion the Faithful: Nov 23 2008, 05:18 AM -------------------- O what fine times, this Age of Iron!
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Nov 23 2008, 08:01 AM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 6792 Joined: 7-February 04 From: Houston, Texas. In Nacogdoches, TX. Member No.: 9035 Chapter Name:Ultramarines (8000+ pts) |
I'm looking forward to seeing you pull off Guilliman, Alpharius and Omegon. Only Adrian Smith has done Guilliman justice so far, and Alpharius and Omegon...I don't think anyone has done them justice or even attempted them at all... I guess that's what they get for being so dang sneaky.
I say Horus and Sanguinius are actually the best. Especially love the Armor crying blood. That's just snazzy. Advocatus Diaboli I guess, but Perturabo just looks like an average sort of Iron Warrior Terminator to me..... This post has been edited by The Emperor's Champion: Nov 23 2008, 08:06 AM -------------------- "The Ultramarines are the greatest of all Space Marine Chapters. From the dawn of the Imperium they have served the Emperor with loyalty and a ferocity that no others can match." "in faith and in valour they are unmatched." "The Ultramarines are the exemplars of the Space Marines, the purest and noblest of all Adeptus Astartes." "Many hold the Ultramarines to be the rightful heir not only of Guilliman, but of the Emperor himself." ~Games-Workshop |
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Nov 23 2008, 08:17 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 462 Joined: 22-May 08 From: Wiesbaden, Germany Member No.: 35207 |
I cant wait till you announce the primarch Corax
Perturabo and Sanguinius are both top notch pieces of art, i love 'em -------------------- |
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Nov 23 2008, 10:43 AM
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![]() +FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 646 Joined: 27-July 06 From: Norway Member No.: 22046 Chapter Name:Warriors Eternal |
QUOTE what if, after I was through with these portraits, I worked up some classic, epic scenes? Like Horus versus Sanguinius? Or the fight between Ferrus and Fulgrim? Or the original Death GUad before the Emperor descended upon Barbarus?... Would you care to see some of that? Yes, please! -------------------- |
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Nov 23 2008, 06:27 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 1174 Joined: 8-October 06 From: London, England. Member No.: 23112 Chapter Name:The Star Lords. |
Rogal Dorn! I'll update his hair (since he's a blonde, I take it), but His hair is pure white, not blonde. -------------------- |
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Nov 23 2008, 06:36 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 4 Joined: 10-October 08 Member No.: 39456 |
my only critique is that the Lion is blonde. other than that I love your work and can't wait to see more.
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Nov 23 2008, 07:56 PM
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+FRATER DOMUS+ Group: + FRATER DOMUS + Posts: 899 Joined: 28-July 06 From: Wainwright, Canada Member No.: 22056 Chapter Name:Ultramarine 2nd Company |
Simply amazing. I always look at your post hoping to see your newest creation. I second the vote for Gulliman.
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