Brother Tyler Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Linked below are the datasheets that were submitted for the Apocalypse: Eye of Terror competition. They have been broken down into the three categories: Legendary Unit (1 or fewer units of vehicles/5 or more models) Small Formation (2 to 6 units of vehicles/5 or more models) Large Formation (7 or more units of vehicles/5 or more models) LEGENDARY UNITS Adepta Sororitas Convocation Captain Rakman’s Last Stand Captured Warp Entity Chaos Desecrator Doomed One, Champion of Malice Exorcists Illuminati Squad Knight Paladin Titan Volatilis Squad SMALL FORMATIONS Gathering the Feast Space Marine Vengeance Force LARGE FORMATIONS Reclaiming the Homeworld Space Wolf Great Company Spear of Russ Tide of Decay War of Faith For the next week, through 14 October, all members of the Bolter & Chainsword are invited to discuss each of the datasheets and to rate each one on a scale of 1 to 10. How you come to your final rating for each datasheet is up to you. You don’t even have to use whole numbers (i.e., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10). If your method allows for decimal scores (e.g., 5.5, 7.33, etc.), you may submit those scores – just keep them to 2 decimal places or less (I’ll round off if you give me anything that goes to 3 or more decimal places). The key thing to remember is that a score of 7 or higher means that you think that the datasheet is “ready for publication”. This means that the datasheet is of higher quality than simply being “usable” – you consider it to be a solid example of a good datasheet and would be willing to allow your opponents to use it against you in a game of Apocalypse. Just to reiterate: All members of the Bolter & Chainsword may vote. There is no requirement for members to have submitted a datasheet in order to vote. The average of all of the members’ scores for each datasheet will be the sheet’s “popular score”. The “popular score” and “judges score” for each datasheet will be averaged to determine that datasheet’s final score. The datasheet in each category that has the highest final score will win in that category. Any datasheet that has both a “popular score” and a “judges score” of 7 or higher will advance to Stage 2 (which will be covered later). RULES OF THE ROAD The identity of each datasheet’s creator will remain a secret until the final scores are tallied. The reason for this is that each score should be determined based on the merits of the datasheet – I don’t want anyone rating any sheets higher or lower based on knowing who created each sheet. When discussing the sheets, don’t reveal the scores you are giving. The key is to identify strengths and weaknesses. Each member can come to his/her own determination on the score to give each sheet, taking into account discussions on the pros and cons of each sheet. Datasheet creators have been given an opportunity to provide designer’s notes. Some of them have done so. While the creators are free to participate in the discussion on any sheets they may have submitted, they may not reveal that they are the creators. I know this will be difficult for some, especially if they feel they have to defend their sheet. The trick is to discuss sheets in an objective fashion, being clinical. While each of you is free to submit your votes at any time, I recommend that you hold off for a bit and take into account the discussions. You’d be amazed at how different members notice different things and have different opinions. While you don’t have to agree with their conclusions, you might find that their insights will have an impact on your own opinions. VOTING Deadline for voting is Wednesday, 14 October. Note that members that submitted datasheets may not vote for their own datasheets. Submit your votes by PM to me, Brother Tyler. To make it easy, you can submit your votes by cutting and pasting the following in your PM to me, entering the score you assign to each datasheet in place of the pound sign (#): [color=orange][b]LEGENDARY UNITS[/b][/color] (LU1) Adepta Sororitas Convocation - # (LU2) Captain Rakman’s Last Stand - # (LU3) Captured Warp Entity - # (LU4) Chaos Desecrator - # (LU5) Doomed One, Champion of Malice - # (LU6) Exorcists Illuminati Squad - # (LU7) Knight Paladin Titan - # (LU8) Volatilis Squad - # [color=orange][b]SMALL FORMATIONS[/b][/color] (SF1) Gathering the Feast - # (SF2) Space Marine Vengeance Force - # [color=orange][b]LARGE FORMATIONS[/b][/color] (LF1) Reclaiming the Homeworld - # (LF2) Space Wolf Great Company - # (LF3) Spear of Russ - # (LF4) Tide of Decay - # (LF5) War of Faith - # If you have any questions on this process, please reply in this discussion. If you are a member that submitted a datasheet/designer's notes and you notice that I made a mistake in re-formatting, please contact me via PM immediately in order to inform me of the corrective action that needs to be taken. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 11, 2009 Author Share Posted October 11, 2009 Okay, three more days to vote. Please use the format above and be sure to give each datasheet a rating from 1 to 10. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2146733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Hows voting going? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2148990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 One would think that the participants would have voted by now. Perhaps they're all waiting until tomorrow, which is fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2149006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Last day for voting. Please submit your input per the first post above by midnight Wednesday, 14 October. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2150908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Last day for voting. Please submit your input per the first post above by midnight Wednesday, 14 October. So when will we know the results of the voting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2153468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Just as soon as I have time to compile the results, collect the judges' feedback for presentation, compose the announcements, and post the announcements. Real life sometimes gets in the way of the hobby. ;) Note that I'm working on it now and hope to have everything as soon as possible. Tomorrow night will be the latest that I get everything done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2153897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Just as soon as I have time to compile the results, collect the judges' feedback for presentation, compose the announcements, and post the announcements. Real life sometimes gets in the way of the hobby. ;) Note that I'm working on it now and hope to have everything as soon as possible. Tomorrow night will be the latest that I get everything done. how is compiling the results going? By the way, how many people voted? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2154965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 At this point I'm just waiting for feedback from one of the judges. Everything else has been compiled, so that judge's scores will be plugged into the spreadsheet, final determination of winners/honourable mentions made, and end of stage critiques posted. There weren't nearly as many voting members as I would have liked. Five or six of the participants didn't even judge. There was the five-member judging panel and about ten or so voting members. I didn't vote, because that would have been unfair. Once I get that last judge's scores/feedback, though, I'll have the results posted for everyone. I've pretty much drafted the announcement and critiques, pending any last-minute changes based on the remaining judge's stuff. Now I'm just putting together the instructions for stage 2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2155052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 At this point I'm just waiting for feedback from one of the judges. Everything else has been compiled, so that judge's scores will be plugged into the spreadsheet, final determination of winners/honourable mentions made, and end of stage critiques posted. There weren't nearly as many voting members as I would have liked. Five or six of the participants didn't even judge. There was the five-member judging panel and about ten or so voting members. I didn't vote, because that would have been unfair. Once I get that last judge's scores/feedback, though, I'll have the results posted for everyone. I've pretty much drafted the announcement and critiques, pending any last-minute changes based on the remaining judge's stuff. Now I'm just putting together the instructions for stage 2. the only reason I didn't vote was because I haven't played a lot of games of 5th edition, so I did not think I would be able to accurately judge the sheets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2155063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Okay, I have received the last bit of judges' input. If you're lucky, I'll have the winners/honourable mentions and feedback announced tonight, and maybe even the guidance on Stage 2. Tonight looks busy for me, though, so it might not happen until tomorrow. Believe me, I'm going to get this to you as soon as I can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2158288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Okay, the votes have been tallied and here are the winners of Stage 1 of the competition: Legendary Unit Knight Paladin Titan by Firenze Firenze gets to use either of the following banners in his signature: [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1255804162/gallery_26_4045_4195.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1255804162/gallery_26_4045_825.jpg] Small Formation Gathering the Feast by minigun762 minigun762 gets to use either of the following banners in his signature: [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1255804162/gallery_26_4045_4955.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1255804162/gallery_26_4045_1452.jpg] Large Formation War of Faith by war009 war009 gets to use either of the following banners in his signature: [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1256068786/gallery_26_4045_10194.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1256068786/gallery_26_4045_3213.jpg] Congratulations to our winners! In addition, the Spear of Russ by Grey Mage received an honourable mention. Grey Mage gets to use either of the following banners in his signature: [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1256068786/gallery_26_4045_6106.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1256068786/gallery_26_4045_4256.jpg] All of our participants deserve recognition for the hard work they put into creating datasheets for the contest. Each of the remaining datasheets and their creators are listed below: Captain Rakman’s Last Stand by Hasoroth Captured Warp Entity by Uncle Mel Chaos Desecrator by I AM THE AWESOME Doomed One, Champion of Malice by minigun762 Exorcist Illuminati Squad by The emperors chosen Reclaiming the Homeworld by minigun762 Space Wolf Great Company by Mikal Wolfheart Volatilis Squad by theredcorsair These members may use one of the following banners in their signatures: [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1256068786/gallery_26_4045_11586.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1256068786/gallery_26_4045_3811.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1255804162/gallery_26_4045_6712.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1255804162/gallery_26_4045_3404.jpg] Keep in mind that the normal B&C forum rules about images in signatures still apply (follow the "Obey!" link in my signature if you have any questions). Note that three of the datasheets were entered by me. These were not in the running to win in any of the categories and were entered because they were intended to be included in the same campaign as those datasheets that received the marks of 7 or higher by both the judges and the membership. These datasheets were: Adepta Sororitas Convocation Space Marine Vengeance Force Tide of Decay Fortunately, each of these datasheets qualified as an honourable mention, so I can go ahead and include them in the campaign. :) Comments from the judges have been added to a final reply in each of the individual datasheet discussions. I’ve re-opened the discussions so that each can be refined for further use. At this point, the discussions are open for suggestion and revision. The ground rules now are that the intent is to improve each of the datasheets. Ultimately, the authority to make changes rests with the creator. Everyone else is just making suggestions. Some of these might even be developed further, turned into downloadable pdfs and possibly included in the same Eye of Terror campaign that has been mentioned. So even though the datasheets may not have qualified for Stage 2, it's still worth it to develop them further. For those that are developed sufficiently, we'll run a follow-on to Stage 2 if there's enough interest. I'll contact members for datasheets that might be included in the Eye of Terror campaign. Instructions for Stage 2 will be out in the next 2 days. The datasheets that will be included in Stage 2 are: Adepta Sororitas Convocation Knight Paladin Titan Space Marine Vengeance Force Spear of Russ Tide of Decay War of Faith If your datasheet isn't one of those listed above, please continue to develop it further. And a big "thank you" to the five judges that formed the panel: bannus Corpse. Gillyfish Honda JamesI The judges may each use one of the following banners in their signature (I'm still working on the "strip" versions): [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1253221678/gallery_26_4045_1789.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1253221678/gallery_26_4045_5143.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1253221678/gallery_26_4045_9400.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1253221678/gallery_26_4045_8167.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1253221678/gallery_26_4045_3593.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1254596027/gallery_26_4045_1798.jpg] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2158904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Congratulations to everyone who won or particpated. I thought this was a fun little side project to try out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2158912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Wow, this was an awesome project. Thanks everyone and congratulations to the winners! I actually came out with a pretty decent datasheet in the end, and it will get a bit of a tweak (tone it down a bit, maybe) and a definite conversion! Out of curiosity, what were the cumulative numerical scores for the datasheets? It'd be nice to know where the general populous stands ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2158985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 So what would this "Phase 2" be? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2159048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.A.Rorie Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I had fun on this project also just a little bummed to see the other Sister of Battle Formation was by Brother Tyler. Congratulations to all who entered, voted, and judged us Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2159049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpse. Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Ah, thought I would remain anonymous through everything. Well, this is fine too. Thanks for having me in the line up. -Added note. Good work to everyone who put effort into this. Not easy to get people to spend time on things you won't make any money from, be thankful the B&C top-hats do this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2159101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Stage 2 will be modeling and painting - we'll need images to go with the datasheets that are going to be available for download. More on that as soon as I have the time to put the finishing touches on the guidelines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2159221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 This is going to be awesome. Now to paint the aforementioned Knight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2159233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Congratulations to everyone, and I can't wait to see the images of these sheets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2159239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Last in the line of honourable mentions. Could predict that one :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2160194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 And I've finally finished the "strip" versions of the judges' banners: [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1263143033/gallery_26_4045_1418.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1263143033/gallery_26_4045_4332.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1263143033/gallery_26_4045_414.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1263143033/gallery_26_4045_1389.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1263143033/gallery_26_4045_415.jpg] [img=http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/1263143033/gallery_26_4045_717.jpg] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/180820-apocalypse-eye-of-terror-datasheet-entries/#findComment-2241372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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