The Shadow Guard Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I, Shadowguard of the Dark Angels Forum, vow on the honour of my Chapter to paint and present at least Five squads of Deathwing terminators led by a Master of Deathwing in TDA as part of a 1500 point DW army on or before the 31st of March, 2011. I promise to provide at least two WIP updates, preferably with pictures, in that time. I vow that if I should fail, I will provide the Librarium with an article and wear the Signature of Shame until my penitence period is done. I guess my first WIP. I am posting it here so that you guys could let me have it in terms of the work done. Please remember thatI last worked on models almost seven years ago.... a little rusty.... The main concept I am trying to achive is to convey dynamism for the terminators and each squad is posd to support each other, Classically the single Th Hammer terminator will be displayed as if protecting the cyclone missle launcher while two others will be on each flank with the sergant somewhere next to the Th termie. Started work on this on 13 February 2011; Phase 1 completed today 20 february 2011. Detailed notes on progress can be seen on my temporary LPC Page DW Squad 1 http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/files/Temp_LPC_DW_Squad_01_01.jpg DW Squad 2 http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/files/Temp_LPC_DW_Squad_02_01.jpg DW Squad 3 http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/files/Temp_LPC_DW_Squad_03_01.jpg DW Squad 4 http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/files/Temp_LPC_DW_Squad_04_01.jpg DW Squad 5 http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/files/Temp_LPC_DW_Squad_05_01.jpg Particlarly pelased with the following two.. Squad 4 Th/SS terminator with Left/Right weapons swap; http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/files/Temp_LPC_DW_Squad_04_02.jpg and the Apothecary.... http://www.fortressoftheunforgiven.com/files/Temp_LPC_DW_Squad_05_02.jpg SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Guard Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 PHASE II: Commenced: 28 February 2011. Completed: 15 March 2011 This phase consisted of all the five squads being put together. I essentially hacked, ripped, swapped and glued to my hearts content. Only the two cyclone launchers were not glued on to allow painting. The rest I will paint as the models are. below are the completed squads. CONCEPTS: I tried to maintain three major concepts for this project. 1. Each terminator would have a uniquely pose as well as be individualized by way of icons and equipment. 2. Every terminator would sport atleast one feather sometimes more in memory of those who died in the plains world. I especially wanted the feathers to be gigantic rather than resemble small totems carried by the spacewolves. 3. The storm shields would also all be different from one another and purposefully be bulked up with thick greenstuff casts. IMPORTANT: I have not worked on any models for nearly 6 years and have never ever before tried my hand at green stuff. So, take the following images with a pinch of salt! ;) DW Squad 1 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_01_01.jpg DW Squad 2 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_02_01.jpg DW Squad 3 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_03_01.jpg DW Squad 2 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_04_01.jpg DW Squad 5 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_05_01.jpg SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Guard Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 DW Squad 5 Apothecary http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_05_02_Apo.jpghttp://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_05_03_Apo.jpg I wanted the armature for the apothecaries narthecium to be quite bulky to allow him to cut through terminator armour. I also attached the sensosrs and searchlight from th apothecary backpack to the right arm itself in the front and underneath. SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Guard Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_05_09_Belial.jpghttp://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_05_07_Belial.jpg http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_05_06_Belial.jpghttp://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_05_08_Belial.jpg Master of Deathwing Belial: This is an entirely new model built from the basics. I had initially planned to use the legs and right arm of Logan Grimnar to provide Belial with a menacing and charging concept. As I realised the size descrepancy between the new plastics and the od metal miniatures. As a result this version of Belial was born. I managed to sculpt for the very first time an entire robe along with a large amount of feathers, purity seals, messages etc. I think I have managed to capture the assaulting terminators menacing body language. Phase II complete...Yeah!!! .... well nearly but for a little more greenstuf to the first squad. Two more weeks left to paint them up. Anyone for a quick shorthand version of DW painting. SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of fact Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Pure awesome. I need a kick up the arse to get things done, just so you know i will be on your case if we dont get updates. I like the commander cullen of the red scorpions conversion. Do the space hulk terminators need much done to get rid of the BA icons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Very impressive greenstuff work SG :P. Cheers I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGABOND Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Sweet looking army, how are you gonna do the armour :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyfish Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Phase II complete...Yeah!!! .... well nearly but for a little more greenstuf to the first squad. Two more weeks left to paint them up. Anyone for a quick shorthand version of DW painting. You could try using Dheneb stone as a basecoat and then shade with a couple of washes of gryphonne sepia before highlighting up to whote on the edges. Quick and dirty. I've tried the earlier stages to my satsifaction and then highlighted up using dheneb stone mixed with bleached bone, bleached bone, bleached bone and skull white and then, finally, pure skull white, but that takes some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I've been using white primer, gryphonne sepia wash, then 2:1 Reaper polished bone/graveyard earth, leaving the cracks and crevices alone as best possible. My guys might need another sepia wash, but between my termies and my friends tyranids, we are completely out. Once I test that out to see how they look, I'll highlight with bleached bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Guard Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 Thanks guys! Gilly: I was thinking of trying a black undercoat (again, have always previously use white, so it's another first) and then one of the foundation paint to do a base coat, may be a wash, bleached bonefor the armour, highlight, may be another wash....something like that.. Your suggestion might be quicker. Might just try them out. Isiah: You are being very nice... but the gren stuff work ismn't that good, especially for Belial. I just don't think i've captured the speed and movement well... after all he's the only model with LCs and I wanted to convey more dynamism. I was really disappointed when i realised that I couldn't use any of the metal model as I wanted to use one of each for historical reasons as well as the collected less common models ( old termie captain, new lysander etc0 Njal Stormcaller has a brilliantly dynamic pose for a librarian but is too much work removing all his wolfy bits. Master of fact: The SH termies can have their BA bits removed very easily, for the most part. You have to seriously look hard to spot the hidden blood drops everywhere. I actually used my first WIP shots to identify the very cleverly worked BA blood drops and insignia. Much easier if you do it before arms are glued in. In a few plaves i used GS or other plastic items from the termie or DA veteran sprues to cover some of the BA bits. The plastic in both the SH termies and the new termies are very easily workable. One thing to remember for any potential DW commander, the SW terminator box is also a veritable treasure trove with more dynamic legs, more SS and TH arm options. They are just as annoying as the BA SH termies to get rid of the wolfy bits.... makes me drool in the hope of them bringing out a DW terminator plastic box now the presedence has been set and followed through by the GKT. The plastics are so goo I do not think i will ever go back to metal minis if I can help it. ^_^ I am really chuffed that I finally pulled my thumb out of my mouth, stoped procrastinating and did some hobby modelling. I am not sure if I will make the deadline as I realistically only have two half weekends left. But even if I don't make it here's thanks to Sigi Himself and the B+C for giving me the puch to firstly re-start the modelling part of the hobby after 6 years and also getting me finally to start using green stuff for the first time and you lot in this forum for the support! Let's see how far i get before the 31st!! Thanks for comments guys! SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandalphon Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Lookin good SG and dont be so humble about the greenstuff, it looks great and if you're concerned - paint it! then you'll see ;) the apothecary is awesome! for a quick and dirty DW i sprayed black (foolishly lol - they were originally gonna be black..) but then went bestial brown, kommando khaki, bleached bone, skull white - tidied up where necessary ;) used a thickish brush for full coverage of the whole lot but the bleached bone and skull white i always painted downwards and a bit more sparingly to pick up all the edges/ highlights, the skull white was pretty much a drybrush. th detail bits i tried to simplify bu making most of the weapons TH/SS boltgun metal with a black wash and the winged chest insignia i just ran a dark green ink over the already highlighed bleached bone chest, worked a treat ;) real timesaver. good luck with the rest of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewl Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Bah, people who make greenstuff like that are not allowed to be modest about it.... (Either that or come to my own house and do 25 termies for me..... :) ) Great work so far, looking forward to the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Neo Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 quick recipe i use for deathwing is as follows: spray black base of bubonic brown flesh wash all over re-apply bubonic brownlaving the recesses bleached bone leaving a slight amount of bubonic brown showing through highlight with 1:1 bleached bone and skull white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeussS Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I am really chuffed that I finally pulled my thumb out of my mouth, stoped procrastinating and did some hobby modelling. I am not sure if I will make the deadline as I realistically only have two half weekends left. But even if I don't make it here's thanks to Sigi Himself and the B+C for giving me the puch to firstly re-start the modelling part of the hobby after 6 years and also getting me finally to start using green stuff for the first time and you lot in this forum for the support! Let's see how far i get before the 31st!! Thanks for comments guys! SG Surely you jest SG... this can't be the first time you're using greenstuff for it looks terrific! Well done ol chap, most impressive. And to top it off a whole army of uniquely posed terminators is just icing on the cake. Can't wait to see this army and getting a game on! Now if only I had someone to paint mine in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Shadow Guard, great looking pieces. I like the apothecary, and if I'm not mistaken, that's the Tyberos the Red Wake's body, correct? Either way, very artful piece and I like the older styling for the Apoth's armor. I also think your greenstuff skills are just fine, you're definitely doing more with it than I can. Overall, great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angelus Sanctus Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Some very nice work there SG, nice to see you back in action :P Looking forward to seeing these guys painted, as i can imagine the army will look deeply impressive. Keep it up ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Guard Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 See how hard I had to work on 25 termies and start greenstuffing in order to drag GM Zeuss, Sandalphon and The Angelus Sanctus back in to this forum? Now i need to see of Vet Sarge Malyr and Bro Bishop can be aroused from their slumber... :P Thanks for the comments guys and the painitng advice, it's the fuel that promotes this hobby... Sandalphon, ZeussS and Krewl, appreciate your the kind words. Bryan Blaire: Yes, the apothecary is Tyberos the Red Wake; The sergeant for squad 1 is commander Culln of Red Scorpions; The sergeant for squad 3 is none other than Lugft Huron; I had originally planned to use all and every unique TDA figure including one squad made of metal DW terminators, the TDA Captain, Captain Lysander and Logan grimnar as well as the old terminator captain... but once I made the first squad i realised that there were significant size issues between metal and plastic. Then the SW Wolfguard terminator box added fuel and options to convert. The Angelus Sanctus: Looking forward to seeing these guys painted, as i can imagine the army will look deeply impressive. You haven't seen the quality of my painting have you. Might be better to leave them unpainted and let everyone imagine what it might look like than actually paint them and demolish their conceptions.. :D Having not painted for more than 6 years I am now a bundle of nerves in contemplation. I think I have devided to go with a white undercoat, bleached bone spray, some sort of a dark brown wash and then work out the rest.... I think on the iconography I will keep all the wings white (for angels and winged swords) and keep the angels green and swords red. As i have used the FW shoulder pads on most, and they are detailed I think if i use the traditional red for the wings and sword it might betoo much.. so might go with white wings and red swords. Plan to try out the scheme on one of the base coated Shadow Guards Assault marines which i never got around to completing..sometime in the next 48 hours... and then... in to the hands of fate... SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Angel Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 If your going with white undercoat the way i do it, and it gives you a very heavy shaded area if you've seen my work. Is as follows: White basecoat a heavy coat of Devlin Mud (very heavy) 2 Thin coats of bleached bone, making sure to leave the reseses dark brown Very thin white on the edges and pulling it down to blend with the bone. For the icons: Start with the foundation red then blood red Water down some Dark Green ink or use Thrakka Green and give it a wash of that After the ink is dry highlight edges with blood red, taking care to leave some of the dark red showing Highlight extreme edges with Blazing Orange Metals: Paint entire area with boltgun Badab black wash Chainmail highlights Mithril Silver highlights I hope this helps, feel free to ask me any questions in regards to the paint scheme! Darkest_Angel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandalphon Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 See how hard I had to work on 25 termies and start greenstuffing in order to drag GM Zeuss, Sandalphon and The Angelus Sanctus back in to this forum? Now i need to see of Vet Sarge Malyr and Bro Bishop can be aroused from their slumber... ;) Thanks for the comments guys and the painitng advice, it's the fuel that promotes this hobby... Sandalphon, ZeussS and Krewl, appreciate your the kind words. :D dreadnought batteries recharged and officially out of retirement :P Darkest Angel's scheme sounds spot on :cuss if you want a yellower bone (like the "old vanilla ice cream" ones in the codex :P) you could use gryphonne sepia after the first layer of bleached bone but hey thats just another step ;) can probably skip one of the metallic highlights if your feeling time precious, chainmail for subtle metal, mithril for higher contrast depending on which you want. I build my red up from red gore over black for a more 'ruby' red so i don't run a wash over it. Either way will turn out great i'm sure :) time to get painting sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angelus Sanctus Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 See how hard I had to work on 25 termies and start greenstuffing in order to drag GM Zeuss, Sandalphon and The Angelus Sanctus back in to this forum? Now i need to see of Vet Sarge Malyr and Bro Bishop can be aroused from their slumber... B) Thanks for the comments guys and the painitng advice, it's the fuel that promotes this hobby... Sandalphon, ZeussS and Krewl, appreciate your the kind words. Bryan Blaire: Yes, the apothecary is Tyberos the Red Wake; The sergeant for squad 1 is commander Culln of Red Scorpions; The sergeant for squad 3 is none other than Lugft Huron; I had originally planned to use all and every unique TDA figure including one squad made of metal DW terminators, the TDA Captain, Captain Lysander and Logan grimnar as well as the old terminator captain... but once I made the first squad i realised that there were significant size issues between metal and plastic. Then the SW Wolfguard terminator box added fuel and options to convert. The Angelus Sanctus: Looking forward to seeing these guys painted, as i can imagine the army will look deeply impressive. You haven't seen the quality of my painting have you. Might be better to leave them unpainted and let everyone imagine what it might look like than actually paint them and demolish their conceptions.. :blink: Having not painted for more than 6 years I am now a bundle of nerves in contemplation. I think I have devided to go with a white undercoat, bleached bone spray, some sort of a dark brown wash and then work out the rest.... I think on the iconography I will keep all the wings white (for angels and winged swords) and keep the angels green and swords red. As i have used the FW shoulder pads on most, and they are detailed I think if i use the traditional red for the wings and sword it might betoo much.. so might go with white wings and red swords. Plan to try out the scheme on one of the base coated Shadow Guards Assault marines which i never got around to completing..sometime in the next 48 hours... and then... in to the hands of fate... SG Will admit that the PCA has been eating into much of time, but it's always a pleasure to duck in and see what's happening in the halls of the rock :) Although kudos to you if Malyr and BB pop in ;) Regardless of your 'time off', i'm sure your hand will be as steady as it was all those years ago! Even I havent picked up a paint brush in a fair while myself, although i think painting is still one of those skills once learned, rusty or not, they dont exactly slip away into the void :) Relax SG! I'm sure once we see your WIP shots, things will still look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Toddius Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Awesome! A SG project! This should be fun to watch. Gotta get the new GK models to round out army. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Guard Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 TAS and master Toddius thanks for the kind words.... :devil: I shall keep trying to get Malyr and Bro Bishop back on board! A short update. Not much ahs happened as I ready for the Phase III (Painting) and watch time slip away.... Firstly Phse IIB: A small add on for the phase II. I looked carefully at the collection of 26 terminators and it was quite obvious that in Squad I had very minimal greenstuff add-ons as that was the squad I started my GS experiments. In particular, the sergeant had nothing added, although the base model of Commander Culln was quite intricately modelled. I felt I should go back and add some green so here are the images to compare. The original Squad 1 http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_01_01.jpg Updated Squad I http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/publishImages/Temp_DungeonC_3~~element116.jpg Also some close ups of the sergeant. http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_01_04_Srg.jpghttp://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph2_DW_Squad_01_03_Srg.jpg PHASE III prelim Commenced: 26 March 2011. This is where the difficult part of painting the models starts. I did a test run on two of my left over Shadowguards Chapter assault marines who had been previously primed with white and spravyed with bleached bone. Afetr much agonizing and reading all the advice from the B+C boards, and considering the time limitations i decided to try two washes. http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph3_DW_Squad_00_01.jpg In the first photo the marine on the left has Gryphone Sepia wash while the one on the right has Devlan Mud wash. This also happens to be the first time I am using washes so it might be thick or thin..... I actually like the effect on the right, the one with a single wash of Devlan Mud. http://fortressofunforgiven.homestead.com/Temp_LPC_Ph3_DW_Squad_00_02.jpg The second photo shows the models with a second wash using the other colour. So the marine on the left has now had a a wash of Devlan mud over the original nne Sepia while the model on the right has had the reverse. I still like the model on the right. The wash hasn't quite dried yet and might be a little too much but I think if i then touch up with a 50:50 mix of bleached bone and skull white and then a few white highlights it should be presentable. I have decided to use white for all feathers including chest icons, should pad icons and any other angel icons including shield icons. Angel robes will be green and the swords be red. Not quite sure whether the stormbolter casings should go with the old style green or black.... Any ideas or suggestions will be very much appreciated....I don't think I'll make the deadline but I will definitely finish this somewhere within a week of it..... :( SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hmm, I would go for two devlan mud washes instead of mixing the washes. Or maybe a badab black wash then a devlan mud one. just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Neo Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 i really like the right hand test. gives a really good yet simple bone look which as you said can just be touched up quite easily with bleached bone and white can't wait to see the finished product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Angel Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 The test mini on the right looks great, I'd stick to devlin mud, just two coats of it, it'll give you some nice depth were you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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