Candleshoes Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Looked but didn't see this potential good news up yet here. Taken from the Blood of Kittens Community Hub. Interesting indeed. We, the gamers, are sitting on the receiving end of this dishonest policy once more. We are treated like children and that is exactly the goal of these changes. So here are some of their plans, as long as the info is available, to spoil some of their surprises: * first real 6th edition codex: Codex Chaos Legions, really big release in three waves, doesn’t invalidate Codex Chaos Space Marines which gets extensive White Dwarf update as Codex Renegade Space Marines * two starter sets, each with rules, dices, movement markers, mission booklet, one with Dark Angels and fitting scenery, the other with Black Legion and Chaos scenery. You can combine both to play the campaign or use one set alone to play a selection of dumbed down scenarios against every other force, first starter set that comes with a model for a well established special character * 6th edition is finished rulewise for some time now, the overall goal is to fix some of the long time problems of the game system. Expect a lot more fundamental improvements than last edition. The rules were even more ambitious at some stage of development, but didn’t get approved as they were too far away from the established rules. The main designer left company and his successors brought the rules back in line with the existing codexes. The rules are nonetheless a bigger step forward than from 4th to 5th. Changes are so big that the next edition relies partial on erratas to fix old codexes. Development relied heavily on feedback of veteran playtesters. You can see some results of this new approach by the way the FAQs were handled in the last months. All codexes since Codex Tyranids were written with the new rules in mind, especially the new mission and reserve structure. * The main design goals are: one book to rule them all, heroic characters, visceral combat, streamlined mechanism, cleaned up presentation and strategy before chance * strong narrative focus on Chaos, perspective shifting from the Empire to the struggle between free races and the Warp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoff Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 All they need is to say percentage-based army systems and you have "Fantasy-in-Space", again. In other words, they're making some severe changes and they'll need to rewrite everything again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 What is meant by "One book to rule them all"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 ...to bind all the other books in darkness? Either way, Legion Codex...AWESOME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Ragnarok - Disclaimer. This is not an official rumour, just a thought. What if there was an allies system with the three books, along with 'one book' of allies that all of them could take? For example, the basic troops for the Chaos Gods, a couple of sorceror type units, and the cult troops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoWolf Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Holy....jeez.....but.... YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's about time, praise to the Four. Anyone know a time for this to come about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justcar Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 This just sounds too good to be true... On the other hand, I really hope that it is true! :) I would buy a chaos army if they came out with chaos legions!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmPirate Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hope they return the night vision rules to the Night Lords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'm always one for rehabilitating the current book's "one size fits all" philosophy, but this sounds nice, too. What looks to be the overall thrust of 6th Ed is really encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangneur Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Am I the only person who thinks that's it's completely feasible to put all three chaos races in one book and pull it off well? Well, I may have been preaching that the whole time but when it's my turn to get four books I don't think I'll turn it down! I'd still rather they stuck all of chaos in one book, and all of those thrice cursed space marines in one as well. I'm not sure if any one else appreciates this but: Warseer's "Ghost21", a veritable rumour monger with credits to his name, lended his word to these rumours citing "starter set isnt black legion...... rest is kinda accurate" Frankly if half of these rumours were correct I'd be a very happy mensch. The only things that would make me happier are a move stat, vehicles reverting to a regular stateline and psychic powers that can be chosen by all races with psychic powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NapalmPirate Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I like the idea of putting all of Chaos into one book. But, I think that makes too much sense for GW to actually follow through with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 What is meant by "One book to rule them all"? I don't know, but it should be the codex Chaos Legions, dont you think? It's about time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Please be true...please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I take one book to rule them all meaning that the core rule book will have the rules for fliers, apocalypse, cities of death, planetstrike etc. Probably for a million pounds. That little sentence isn't talking about the Legions codex, it's talking about the main book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Of Malfeasance X Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I enjoy the idea of this game being incredibly, incredibly lethal. We as players will, of course, have to cope with the paradigm shift, however I enjoy the idea of 40k becoming more complex instead of the game all of the crusty old WFB players look down their noses at. I also like less randomness. That, alone, will set this apart from WFB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Sounds awesome but I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 sucks to be IG or nid with the shoting rules they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I hope they go with a system where the basic Troop option is a Chaos Marine Squad, and you have to take a specific Aspiring Champion to differentiate between Legions, for example, a Plague Sergeant, or a Priest Sergeant, and these all come with Legion rules, like the Mark rules, for example, Plague Sergeant makes his unit +1 T or FnP, while the Priest Sergeant makes his unit Fearless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilicate Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Sounds awesome but I'll believe it when I see it. Seconded. If this ends up being true, awesome, but I won't hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penmarch' Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 With a bit of luck my army might become 100% playable again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fimbul Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Sounds awesome but I'll believe it when I see it. Seconded. If this ends up being true, awesome, but I won't hold my breath. It does kind of make sense though, especially given what Cavatore said in the BOLS interview a while back (that GW were thinking of doing Legion dexes). I'm not holding my breath either, but I sure as hell am starting to save up some extra cash ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Redoing legions would be a big mistake. The way of win is to take the warband concept and build it to coherency. None of the fluff we have seen has shown the legions as whole since 40k came out*. The reason the legion concept seems decent is because of the non-concept in 4th. We need special characters worth taking. Warbands that people actually want to play. Its not space marine chapters vs. chaos legions now, it's space marine chapters vs. chaos warbands. We need them to show us decendancy. It needs to be shown how your marines can be in a warband but still be wordbearers or worldeaters, or night lords. Special characters need to talk about the warband they belong to. Typhus leads a specific faction of death guard. They should make it more apparent. * ok so not all but damned near. Are some warbands made up of warriors mostly from the same legion? Sure are. Are some warbands made up of legionary veterans exclusively? Maaaaaybe. Did chaos marines of the same legion background fight long enough together, after the heresy, as a solid legion, to garner rules as to how they should be played. Maybe, probably not. Besides the black legion, which I'm going to say right here is not a legion, but a huge warband, none of the former legions have any post heresy structure to speak of. 4th did a good job of creating this but they should have repainted the minis in the pictures. Combining legions for a fight looks dumb, building a warband out of the shattered remnants of legions looks wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Not holding my breath for this. Also, For all we know, if it - or something like it - finally happens then Plague Marines will get a 'sneeze attack' that stops the victim from telling the truth! and we will have Lava-Ice-crystal-marines everywhere and Night Lords will get the ability to "super-charge/overload" *. *references to the newer retcons designed to dazzle 14-year olds but really makes no sense. Yes I'm a bitter old man. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snejk Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Sounds awesome but I'll believe it when I see it. Seconded. If this ends up being true, awesome, but I won't hold my breath. +1 as the young ones tend to say now days. It would be nice with a Legion Codex though. I would have the weirdest boner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Not holding my breath for this. Also, For all we know, if it - or something like it - finally happens then Plague Marines will get a 'sneeze attack' that stops the victim from telling the truth! and we will have Lava-Ice-crystal-marines everywhere and Night Lords will get the ability to "super-charge/overload" *. *references to the newer retcons designed to dazzle 14-year olds but really makes no sense. Yes I'm a bitter old man. B) Sounds like Wards note book.. I am holding my breath on this one as it has been said so many times before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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