Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Battle tracker begins again, this time for results using 4th ed. DA Codex. This will be used to compare results between Codex versions and Rulebook edition versions.. It will be up for indefinite time.. probably until 6th ed is out or new DA codex is out.. whichever comes first. I felt that with some years down the road using DA codex and 5th ed. rulebook I would be nice to document the performance of the army. Here's the previous incarnations. 3rd Ed. battle tracker 4th Ed. battle tracker Here's how it works: Ex: Frater Bob reports his latest game results: ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tau 1/0/0 Necrons 0/1/0 +++++++++++++++++++++++ Frater Bob total DA 3rd Company under Cpt. Bob (Win, Draw, loss) ) 9/6/1 DA players Total (win/draw/loss) ---------------------------- Vs Necron Total: 1/0/0 Vs Eldar total 13/3/5 ---------------------------- Total: 9 / 5 / 2 The rules: - games must be made using DA Codex rules. - only ONE post per user to be modified as per updates - DA vs. The Rest games only - After a user posts his result, thread will be updated and post deleted. - Please keep it truthful. It's not to judge a player ability but the army capability as a whole. Keep in mind that this will have to be updated manually, so it will require effort and time from the DA mod team, so don't despair if sometimes results aren't updated as fast as expected. Let the statistics begin!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 DA vs Opponent Total (W/D/L) ---------------------------------- vs Blood Angels 32/11/18 vs Imperial Guard 20/2/8 vs Space Wolves 32/5/10 vs Grey Knights 21/19/21 Vs Eldar 25/5/17 Vs Necrons 18/5/7 Vs Space Marines 28/12/14 Vs Tyranids 23/6/5 Vs Chaos Space Marines 37/4/11 Vs Chaos Daemons 3/1/3 Vs Black Templars 5/0/1 Vs Dark Eldar 14/0/9 Vs Tau: 8/0/3 Vs Orks: 18/3/5 Vs Witch-Hunters 0/0/3 ---------------------------------- Total: 284/69/135 (57.14% wins) Player results (W/D/L): ----------------------------------- Chorus of serpents : 2/1/4 Coyote Gospel: 8/5/8 Droma: 10/2/10 HJL: 2/5/1 RayJ: 13/2/2 Stobz: 10/1/5 Snarf.za 11/4/11 moi_a_mania 10/4/7 Krewl 11/1/3 ellis esquire: 17/9/14 darkest angel 16/0/0 skink 16/4/6 brother captain sharp 16/0/2 redemptor araphel 9/3/6 swartsengagger 2/1/1 master gabriel macleod 13/0/11 corton 11/3/3 bisa 7/5/1 bringer of redemption 0/1/2 kaika87 9/1/8 makers 7/2/2 max power 1/1/1 puriexdeus 4/1/0 templarphoenix 12/2/0 egon1six 55/8/22 darmor 3/0/2 captain angel 1/0/0 chaplain lucifer 6/2/6 mercy0fspades 1/1/1 ----------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 As a side note, I'll be accepting Battle reports from battles before this thread was created but just up to 3 months, the time DA codex was FAQ'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 - only ONE post per user to be modified as per updates - After a user posts his result, thread will be updated and post deleted. Hey Chaplain Lucifer this is slightly confusing. Should I edit my previous post listing new updates or do I wait for that post to be deleted and then create a new post with updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 - only ONE post per user to be modified as per updates- After a user posts his result, thread will be updated and post deleted. Hey Chaplain Lucifer this is slightly confusing. Should I edit my previous post listing new updates or do I wait for that post to be deleted and then create a new post with updates? Create new post with new results .. i didn't delete much because some would be left behind, but clean up will be soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share Posted July 16, 2011 New update! We're giving chaos a run for their money, GK are a tough nut to crack, on the other hand... Anotehr reminder, please make sure the report is in W/D/L format or else it will adulterate the results if I don't spot that you're reporting in W/L/D. Thanks. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'm surprised at the win/loss ratio to be honest. I'm wondering if DA players because of sticking to their codex just have so much more practice than others or if we're just better players overall. It could also be people just don't like reporting their losses lol. Either way I'm glad to see the DA are still going strong at least in casual circles. Chaplain Lucifer I'm wondering if we report specific games as tournament games if you'll keep track of that separately so we can see the differences between casual and tournament records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm surprised at the win/loss ratio to be honest. I'm wondering if DA players because of sticking to their codex just have so much more practice than others or if we're just better players overall. It could also be people just don't like reporting their losses lol. Either way I'm glad to see the DA are still going strong at least in casual circles. Chaplain Lucifer I'm wondering if we report specific games as tournament games if you'll keep track of that separately so we can see the differences between casual and tournament records? I'm not distinguishing between tournament and casual games... in my view they're more or less the same... you can have a "power gamer" only playing casual games and reporting and the reverse, having a relaxed gamer reporting only tournaments. So due to this fact I didn't made a distinction, but I can see that the extra data wouldn't hurt to get a more overall feel of DA in various settings, but now the train is rolling I sadly can't make that addenda, since I didn't keep track of those reported as tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 The final results of battle tracker: DA vs Opponent Total (W/D/L) ---------------------------------- vs Blood Angels 32/11/18 vs Imperial Guard 20/2/8 vs Space Wolves 32/5/10 vs Grey Knights 21/19/21 Vs Eldar 25/5/17 Vs Necrons 18/5/7 Vs Space Marines 28/12/14 Vs Tyranids 23/6/5 Vs Chaos Space Marines 37/4/11 Vs Chaos Daemons 3/1/3 Vs Black Templars 5/0/1 Vs Dark Eldar 14/0/9 Vs Tau: 8/0/3 Vs Orks: 18/3/5 Vs Witch-Hunters 0/0/3 ---------------------------------- Total: 284/69/135 (57.14% wins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Comparing to 4th edition: Dark Angels vs Opponent: Vs Chaos 58/33/15 Vs Pre-Heresy Marines 1/0/0 Vs Witch Hunters 4/2/0 Vs Space Wolves 8/1/2 Vs Eldar 38/16/6 Vs Codex Space Marines 44/21/9 Vs Tyranids 25/2/4 Vs the Lost and the damned 2/2/0 Vs Orks 12/8/3 Vs Tau 48/12/8 Vs Blood Angels 4/4/3 Vs Demon Hunters 8/1/0 Vs Necrons 27/6/7 Vs Dark Eldar 7/4/2 Vs Imperial Guard 13/5/2 Vs Black Templars 10/3/4 Vs Space Wolves 13th co. 1/0/1 Vs Legion of the damned 1/1/0 Total: 341/134/64 [63.26% win ratio So we dropped 6% on wins when compared to 4th ed. In comparison to 3rd ed. Win percentage: Vs Blood Angels: 87.5% Vs Black Templars: 75% Vs Chaos: 50% Vs Codex Marines: 83.375% Vs Dark Eldar: 75% Vs Demonhunters: 87.54% Vs Eldar: 57.57% Vs Imperial Guard 73.80% Vs Necrons: 67.7% Vs Orks: 64% Vs Space Wolves: 61.1 % vs SW 13th Company 0% Vs Tau: 58.82% Vs Tau: kroot mercs: 0% Vs Tyranids 52.94% Vs Witchunters:100% Overall: 63.97%wins, 13.54% losses and 22.47% ties. Also a drop in percentage, also 6%. Next up. opponent analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 4th win percentage vs opponent: Win percentage: Vs Chaos - 54.7% Vs pre-heresy Marines - 100% Vs Witch Hunters - 57,14% Vs Space Wolves - 72,72% Vs Eldar - 61,29% Vs Codex marines - 59,45% Vs Tyranids - 80,64% Vs the Lost and Damned - 50% Vs Orks - 52,17% Vs Tau - 61,53% Vs Blood Angels - 36,36% Vs DemonHunters - 88,88% Vs Necrons - 67,5% Vs Dark Eldar - 53,84% Vs Imperial Guard - 65% Vs Black Templars - 58,82% Vs 13th Company - 50% Vs Legion of Damned - 50% 3rd ed win percentage vs opponent; Vs Blood Angels: 87.5% Vs Black Templars: 75% Vs Chaos: 50% Vs Codex Marines: 83.375% Vs Dark Eldar: 75% Vs Demonhunters: 87.54% Vs Eldar: 57.57% Vs Imperial Guard 73.80% Vs Necrons: 67.7% Vs Orks: 64% Vs Space Wolves: 61.1 % vs SW 13th Company 0% Vs Tau: 58.82% Vs Tau: kroot mercs: 0% Vs Tyranids 52.94% Vs Witchunters:100% 5th ed: vs Blood Angels 32/11/18 - 52.2% vs Imperial Guard 20/2/8 - 55.6% vs Space Wolves 32/5/10 - 68% vs Grey Knights 21/19/21 - 34.4% Vs Eldar 25/5/17 - 53.1% Vs Necrons 18/5/7 - 60% Vs Space Marines 28/12/14 - 51.1% Vs Tyranids 23/6/5 - 67.5% Vs Chaos Space Marines 37/4/11 - 71.1% Vs Chaos Daemons 3/1/3 - 42,8% Vs Black Templars 5/0/1 - 83,3% Vs Dark Eldar 14/0/9 - 60,8% Vs Tau: 8/0/3 - 72,7% Vs Orks: 18/3/5 - 69,2% Vs Witch-Hunters 0/0/3 - 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Blood Angels: From 36.3% in 4th to 52.2% in 5th. A rise in performance. But 3rd ed mark was an astounding 87.5% wins. Imperial Guard: From 65% in 4th to 55.6% in 5th. A drop in performance. 3rd Ed mark was 73.8% wins. Space Wolves: From 72.7% in 4th to 68% in 5th. A slight drop. 3rd Ed was worse with just 61.1% wins. Grey Knights (Former Demonhunters) From 88.88% in 4th to 34.4% in 5th . A huge drop! 3rd Ed had a 87.5% win ratio. Eldar : From 61.2% in 4th to 53.1% in 5th. A 10% drop but comparable to the 57.5% of 3rd ed. Necrons: 67.5% wins in 4th to 60% wins in 5th. 3rd was our best with 67.7% Space marines: 59.4% in 4th ed. to 51.1% in 5th. 3rd ed. had an astounding 83.3% win ratio. Tyranids: From 80.6% in 4th ed. to 67.5% in 5th ed. 3rd was our worse with 52.9%. Chaos Space marines 4th ed had 54.7% wins to 71.1% in 5th ed... A big rise in wins. 3rd ed. had a 50% win ratio. Chaos demons: It's a 5th ed army so there aren't previous encounters data. Black Templars 58.8% in 4th to 83.3% in 5th. 3rd ed. was also good with 75% wins. Dark Eldar 53.8% in 4th to 60.8% in 5th. Best was at 3rd ed with 75%. Tau: 61.5% in 4th to 72.7% in 5th . a steady climb since the 58% from 3rd ed. Orks: 52.1% in 4th to 69.2% in 5th. 3rd saw a 64% win ratio. Witch hunters: 57.14% to 0%. 100% in 3rd ed. Next up conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 So the final post conclusions and assertions about these results. They will of course result from my personal opinion so it'll good to hear about other opinions too. Blood Angels: From 36.3% in 4th to 52.2% in 5th. A rise in performance. But 3rd ed mark was an astounding 87.5% wins. In other editions we had few games vs Blood Angels so the previous results maybe eschewed. So it would be best to stick to just 5th ed. results were it's shown that games can be close fought, neitehr side claiming overwhelming superiority. Imperial Guard: From 65% in 4th to 55.6% in 5th. A drop in performance. 3rd Ed mark was 73.8% wins. New Imperial Guard Codex has made battles more close fought because there is a clear steady drop on results from 3rd to 4th to 5th. Space Wolves: From 72.7% in 4th to 68% in 5th. A slight drop. 3rd Ed was worse with just 61.1% wins. In 3rd ed. SW were a fierce opponent and it was difficult to get a win vs SW. It's surprising though that despite having a new Codex, SW advantage was diminished. Game sample vs SW was small in 5th ed. so it can be a cause for these results. Grey Knights (Former Demonhunters) From 88.88% in 4th to 34.4% in 5th . A huge drop! 3rd Ed had a 87.5% win ratio. From pushovers to top contenders is the reality so far. DA can't really match GK in this edition. Eldar : From 61.2% in 4th to 53.1% in 5th. A 10% drop but comparable to the 57.5% of 3rd ed. There still is a tendency to a good win streak vs Eldar but nothing really noteworthy , shows that Codexes are evenly balanced. Necrons: 67.5% wins in 4th to 60% wins in 5th. 3rd was our best with 67.7% Despite a positive result since 3rd ed, win percentage has been dropping. Something New Codex Necrons can be "blamed" for. Space marines: 59.4% in 4th ed. to 51.1% in 5th. 3rd ed. had an astounding 83.3% win ratio. In 3rd ed. (with our 3.5 codex) we were "SM plus" and it shows on the 3rd ed. results. Successive New C:SM have leveled the playground and now we stand even. Tyranids: From 80.6% in 4th ed. to 67.5% in 5th ed. 3rd was our worse with 52.9%. Here we get mixed results. We still dominate Tyranids but surprisingly we achieved better results against the older tyranid codex than the newer one.. the one everyone claims to be worse. In 3rd Ed we can "blame it" on the overall game rules that favoured assault armies. Chaos Space marines 4th ed had 54.7% wins to 71.1% in 5th ed... A big rise in wins. 3rd ed. had a 50% win ratio. Chaos has been our nemesis in 3rd edition, but I think current Chaos Codex is to blame for our climb in performance. Black Templars 58.8% in 4th to 83.3% in 5th. 3rd ed. was also good with 75% wins. Curiously enough we always had a small game sample vs Black templars, results may be inaccurate but they show we can much hold our own in current edition. Dark Eldar 53.8% in 4th to 60.8% in 5th. Best was at 3rd ed with 75%. DE Codex was bad with 3rd ed rules, but got better with 4th ed. rules (and revised DE codex). In 5th with a brand new DE Codex, we still have some supremacy. Tau: 61.5% in 4th to 72.7% in 5th . a steady climb since the 58% from 3rd ed. We are getting better at killing tau despite changing ediutions and changing Tau Codices. It is kind of surprising because First tau Codex was really worse than the latest.. Sample of games agaisnt tau also diminished so it can be a factor to these results. Orks: 52.1% in 4th to 69.2% in 5th. 3rd saw a 64% win ratio. Better than 3rd and 4th, it seems 5th ed. favours us more than orks.. they levelled in 4th with their new codex but 5th ed rules stole some fight from them . Witch hunters: 57.14% to 0%. 100% in 3rd ed. Sample is so small results are eschewed and impossible to tell if we could fared better then 0% wins in 5th ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skink Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Interesting reading, and a big thanks for taking the time to compile the data! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thanks Chaplain Lucifer for putting all this together and tracking the data. From what I've seen here and other internet blog tournament reports DA may not be the favorites but we are certainly competitive. I think one of the contributing factors is how loyal DA players tend to be, we have a LOT of practice with our codex. I'm looking forward to the results of 6th edition and an updated codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm looking forward to the results of 6th edition and an updated codex. You, me, about a muzillion DA fans and all the enemies who quiver in fear too Also thanks to CL for the work done here, really nice to see the comparisons. s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 It is I that have to thank all of those that have been supporting this project. :) Hopefully it'll return soon... Either with "old" Codex and 6th Ed. rules or new codex and 6th Ed. rules... or both!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJL Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Good few weeks for me. 2 wins vs space wolves 1 win vs guard 1 win vs blood angels 1 win vs orks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Angel Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Over the last few weeks, W/L/T Necrons 1/0/1 GK 0/2/0 Orks 1/0/0 SM 2/0/0 Gaurd 2/0/0 DE 1/0/0 DA 1/0/0 Total 8/2/1 My perfect streak ended by GK's >_< Darkest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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