zyl- Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hi B&CS, I've been browsing as a guest for a while now, and figured i may as well register and maybe pick up some advice that's a little more tailored to my specific work instead of browsing to try to find examples that I can liken to myself. Generally, I would want to do the latter, but when it comes to custom things.. it's just not quite the same. Here's some starter pics so I can give everyone an idea of where I am on a scale of newb to pro. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/plaguemarines.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/berzerkers.jpg I am sorry for everything that makes these pictures "less than perfect" from a photography point of view. These are painted the "cannon" colors because I feel it is my obligation to maintain the artistic integrity of the models as they are intended. (Fluff and philosophy) I don't think I have the right to change what was created by someone else, and the codex seems to make it fairly clear that these units belong to their respective legions almost all the time. Not that I'm above being arrogant, but I think if I want to stick to the storyline given at all, I need to just go with the "temporary chaos united" theme to make a diverse army rather than forcing my ideas into the lore. Mind you, I'm not condemning those who do. (/fluff and philosophy) Once the viewer is satisfied with the skill or lack thereof shown above, here is an example of the part of my army that will be a bit more personalized, which is basically all but the 4 specific troops. The army is not going to be particularly devoted to any god, as I find that distastefully limiting when it comes to strategy. Please make all angry faces now, but under the current (5th ed) codex.. well I don't necessarily like the way it's set up. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_6786.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_6785.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_6787.jpg Here is my concept for the color scheme that I would follow given the prince, and the following army's obvious reverence for their fearless leader. This is also very open to suggestions still, as I've not gotten too far into painting the units other than the big badguy himself and the legion specific badguys. Other ideas I'd been tossing around is using a lot of white instead of the black (glances at the "Ice Marines" post), or using the off-white of the claws. http://bolterandchainsword.com/csms.php?bp...;gr=0A0A0A& My painting is going very slowly, because I try too hard to get it all perfect, but I am contiguously working on them at the rate of roughly 2 models a week.. if it's not a HQ or something equally awful. I have a few more models worth posting, but I'll have to do that later, since I don't have the pictures handy.. and I intend to update. I will try to update future work, which will hopefully get better and better based on critique provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S'jet Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hey Zyl! =) The demon prince looks cool great =) I dont really have much experience with painting green. However for the red i'd suggest a wash to shade the recesses. As you may or may not know, GW are currently changing their entire paint range. I've heard great things about the new red wash called "Carroburg Crimson". You may want to try it when the new paints are released. Same with the gold. Use a brown wash. Washes are designed to shade, and give depth to the miniature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 I have seen people suggest washing before, but I'm actually not sure what it's supposed to achieve. Is it a darker color that goes to the edges and recesses, or a lighter color that pools at the top? I don't use any of the overpriced GW paints, which means all my colors are mixed by hand. I'm an experienced painter, but my experience all applies to canvases that are larger than an entire army, so it's give and take helpful with minis. I suspect it is a darker color to darken the recessed areas, which brings up a whole new problem because the red and gold areas on the berzerkers are large and flat, which (in my estimation) means the washing will end up looking flat and have no effect other than to change the color uniformly. If anyone can help clear this up, I would be quite grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 You got it right: the wash is a darker shade that will flow off the raised areas of the model and pool in the cracks/crevices. It really can be used to pretty impressive ends, especially if several very dilute coats are layered on top of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 More progress, but not necessarily of better quality. The washes still don't look all that good on the solid plates, and while I don't know that I can solve that immediately, I did attempt to get a few good washes in opportune spots such as the axe handle for the right fella, the face/mouth of the skull champion, the plasma casing on the plasma pistol, and the bullet racks on all 3. The photos still aren't anywhere close to detailed enough to really show every mark, but maybe that's working in my favor for now. I also haven't gotten to the point of highlighting the armor plates, which will really make a big difference, but I await better brushes, since I sort of ruined one or seven already (no thanks to you, Wal-Mart). http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_6974.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_6975.jpg The other thing I've gotten done is some modeling, which I don't need brushes for. Obliterator conversions! My first: Tinman http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/tinman1.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/tinman2.jpg Second: Brutus http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/brutus2.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/brutus3.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/brutus4.jpg And the highly experimental: Skorp http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/skorp1.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/skorp4.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/skorp2.jpg Tinman and Brutus are mostly terminator bitz with green stuff. Skorp was very assorted bitz and green stuff.. even the base was cut and made up for him. I primed them for the pics so the shape would be more easily focused on. I personally think it's easier to look at when there aren't as many distracting colors all over. More to come later, tips always welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Wow! Those obliterators are awesome man. Your greenstuffu is pretty good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Caloth Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 also, for the daemon prince, instead of line painting the musculature, as with the berserkers id use Asurymen Blue (or a watered down bit of what you used to line-paint it, since you said you dont use GW paints {fair enough, i understand what you mean bout overpriced. lol]). i think you will like the results better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 Hello again internet, So I went back to the berzerkers to try and improve based on previous suggestions. Here's what I came up with after washing, highlighting, and some flocking. The only thing that may be missing is weathering, which I'm actually not sure on at this point due to the "worn" look that he seems to have. Either way, any comments (be they good or bad) are welcome. At the very least I'm sure most can agree it's improved upon. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/berzerker2.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/berzerker1.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/berzerker3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisisJimmy Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Very nicely done, your choice of highlight areas was very effectively done and looks great. A bit of paint on the sand and if you just look out for the mould lines, and you could have a very nice looking army developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonclaw Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 liking tinman and skorp with skorp i think his legs look a little static though nice work altogether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 thank you This weekend I started a project that I've been planning for a bit, and I started to get a bit excited as it progressed. Needless to say, I ended up dedicating quite a bit of the weekend to this particular conversion project, and though it may be a bit before I can finish it up completely (due to both a perfectionist attitude and the fact that I have to work for a living), I figured I'd post up a few pics. This is still in a very much evolving stage, so strong feedback is likely to have an impact. It's a demon prince conversion made to look as if he's landing from above. A picture is worth 1000 words, so I digress. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7058.jpg angle is a little off for the effect, but it was quick picture taking http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7059.jpg In the rest of these pics, you can see the shoulder pad that I made to add on later. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7060.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7057.jpg And the back is still more or less just basic musculature shape. I still intend to add wings and spines. Good thing I bought plenty of the green stuff. Please say you hate it if you hate it. It's not like I know where you live :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Update on the demon prince conversion http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7156.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7155.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7154.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7153.jpg and a sneak peak at the next little thing I have going, chosen http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7157.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdannan Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 That daemon prince is pretty cool. Love the pose. Its like his a fallen angel descending on the battle field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Models for the chosen are all built now. This update is mainly for the dark angels painting challenge being held here. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=252375 http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7209.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah-a-nothepsis Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Impressive! Love the conversion skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azarias Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Welcome to Chaos, first off. I'm glad to see you've taken up the suggestions regarding washes - I would say one thing about plain boltgun metal though (or whatever color has since replaced it - I haven't had time to go and check out the new paints): badab black (or whatever the equivalent is nowadays) does a nice job of filling in the recesses of anything that comes across as too uniformly shiny. It will dull down the shine, though, so you might have to experiment to see what works for you. But I find it tends to make the guns look less uniform, and a little more worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I saw the first pics and thought "wow, good go for a beginner", then saw the highlighed Berzerker and was thoroughly impressed! I've never been a fan of two highlight levels on troops as I don't feel they need to "pop" that much but it does look absolutely fantastic! And for those obbliterators... I am blown away. Your greenstuff and modelling skills are amazing. I am very jealous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 I figured I should update this with what I've done so far. It's been a while. I painted my oblits and took pics decent enough to be worth posting. I'll have some more pics soon, since I have a good bit more work to show, but for now it's late. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7379.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ambroz Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Any update on that prince? Love the pose you used for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 Any update on that prince? Love the pose you used for him. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7383.jpg hehe, just vowed him for the ETL. He'll be painted soon enough. In the meantime, some good pics of my finished chosen squad. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7392.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7391.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7387.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7393.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 prince update The painting is pretty much done, possibly some high lighting could yet be done, and the base isn't flocked, but this is how it's pretty much going to look. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7434.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7435.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7431.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7433.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7432.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/105_7436.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanSupreme Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 As a loyal citizen of the Imperium, I shun you and all your works. That Demon Prince is pretty badass, though. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Posted too early to comply with the Call to Chaos V rules, so reposted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Call to Chaos V November Update 1 The 5 items. Some primed, some not, one dread not even fully assembled. http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/IMG_0483.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyl- Posted November 12, 2012 Author Share Posted November 12, 2012 Call to Chaos V November second update Hellbrute done http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/IMG_0500.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/IMG_0499.jpg Lord done http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/IMG_0537.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/bloodlife72/IMG_0538.jpg The rest is all built and primed, but no paint yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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