Captain Idaho

Oh yeah each to their own of course. Interesting to see if there's some substantial changes that require substantial FAQ and errata to existing army books. But yeah I totally agree it just feels like a bi-annual dataslate change rather than a new edition right now. Which doesn't win anyone onside really.

I don't mind the staff but the anyway Grotsmasha's play is amazing. Same model with minor changes and it looks great.

I think I know what it is. The issue is it has those cables flaring off it but no coruscating energy about them to denote the energy that is apparently causing it. As such, it just looks like bad hair glued onto it.

Contrary to many an opinion here I'm gonna have to go with: Garbage model. Just looks like a pants and clumsy conversion done by a novice just sticking bits to a model.

Totally agree man. 11th edition is not for me as I didn't like the direction of 40K since 9th and 10th I just can't stand. Maybe it's more the Codex books over the main rules, but still. Anyway, yeah to get excited for a game I don't like... we got new missions because they haven't changed the game.

Now you mention it, that's likely what can be changed without changing the army books which is why GW are going harder there. To me that's why I think the methodology of 40K is flawed to be honest. It relies on too many special rules that are exceptions to have fundamental changes possible. If the baseline of a faction were inherent to the stats with very limited special rules, a more substantial change in the core rules is possible without completely overhauling every faction ruleset as well.

They did say that all the previous army publications and Codex books will still be usable in this edition, so it is going to be fundamentally the same as 10th to be honest.

His high heels suck. His blandness doesn't look like a veteran at all which sucks. Ultimately I just feel the newest Marines look like clumsy hodpodges of models: MK7 helm Mk8 gorget Mk10 lower legs

It just all feels a bit... bland.

HH list building is unnecessarily complicated for a mainstream game. Generally most of this forum are old hands when it comes to these things so it's easy to think "I don't have any troubles so no one does" but in reality coaching my casual friends into the hobby has shown this to be an unnecessarily difficult element of the game.

If it's just the same, then what is a Scouring expansion then?

There's just very little to work with when you consider a Scouring expansion limited to just Marines. I mean, Codex Astartes being implemented... that's 7th edition and prior Space Marines then? Which does "cross the streams" with another game system. As does Custodes. So contradictions aside... what else then? We already got thr Legions models and rules.

Sorry for the delayed reply, been a busy working time! Well, from an old reference many moons ago in Codex Ultramarines and elsewhere: So the Enemies of Mankind is broad and flexible... but we know that the 2nd sentence is not referencing Chaos specifically since: a) they've just been defeated, b) it subsequently references chaos separately, c) preparing to attack...? They've already attacked! And are still in control of some/many worlds. So that's non-Chaos. Orks are easy as we know they DO attack in the War of the Beast. I think another faction though. Maybe Xenos, maybe some sort of terror from ye olde night. Essentially, whilst GW is reluctant to copy and paste factions from one setting into another, we have 2 massive massive exceptions to this... Custodes are literally the same in 30K and 40K and Marines exist in both. Even the Guard are pretty similar in both. Who knows exactly... I'm not convinced it will happen, just convinced it CAN happen.

To not get lost in a 40K thread, here is the dedicated news topic for this bit of news. Valrak has heard in this here video that there is going to be an expansion to Heresy set in the Scouring. *** On a personal note, I'm relishing this. Want it badly as 40K is just not 40K in feel to me anymore and a Scouring can have Orks, Eldar and Dark Eldar and even Tyranids and Necrons apparently according to their Codex books (which I'm not the fan of but hey ho, maybe they can live in 40K). More importantly, we'll see some flexibility for races never before seen potentially, factions that are different and new MK7 Marines, as the god-Emperor intended. Man I'm excited for this and hope it's true. *** Financial investment and economic focus... it makes sense yes. As AoS is rumoured to be facing an End Times due to stagnation and GW wants the year on year growth and it can't be 40K every year. So expanding the HH which in their eyes might be limited for that as a mainline system makes sense. And Scouring opens that door hard.

Good idea! Scouring thread it is! Created here: