BOBMAKENZIE

No problem I like a good argument ;) The Achilles is probably one of only a bare handful of Forgeworld units I think are over the top (and that doesnt mean there arent over the top units in the normal codexs) What irritates me is that some of the units are just clear improvements on units that are already in the codexs. Most people point to the eldar mini skimmer and call it a straight improvement on the vypre (im not sure I agree but that doesnt matter..) As well many of the army lists can be quite ridiculous and I get that they arent saying the lists are 40K approved but its a dangerous path to start treading IMO. This might come from my background with D&D where by there are too many players that seem to obsess with finding each and every tiny rules interaction that breaks the game and then instead of writing it off as strange or funny they, you know break the game.

Well I can see how I phrased my first paragraph there poorly. So let me rehash. I agree with you infact I own an ork megadread and I've talked it over with people sometimes so I can play it in a game. (it helps that hte megadread is pretty meh for its pts) What I dont like is being told that I should just play Forgeworld stuff because Forgeworld stuff is 'official' (Despite the fact the very same rule says ask me first!) it makes me feel extremely :bittervet: about this game. What Im completely fine with is hashing out a game by game (or even opponent by opponent really) deal on what sort of forgeworld is allowed where and when. The same goes for any tournament I run, if you want to come to me and talk about using a forgeworld piece Im fine at taking a look at the rules (heck I probably already have an ok idea what it does) and then allowing it/disallowing it/rarely tweaking something as I see fit. What I will not see myself doing at this moment in time is going to something with people I dont know where Forgeworld is just cleanslate allowed. I dont need that sort of force fed house ruling (for the record I also despite INAT for the same sort of reasons.)

Seahawk :wub: I recalled the rules as being similar to that. And its something that I think alot of people just jump over without thinking about too terribly much.

at issue is also the exact wording of what they say in regards to the "official" units. No one has provided the quote yet so I will when I get off work.

Please see above :3

I thought the book stated that those units were designed to be played in 40K but you still needed opponents permission. TBH I dont really care to play against FW stuff and people trying to tell me I have to cause Forgeworld says its cool leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If you want to talk to me and work something out thats fine Im fairly flexible but dont try and make me out to be a terrible person because I dont want drop pods that dreadnoughts can assault out of and such. :lol:

We actually have some of your store staff down here in Toronto if that says anything about how long they expect a new store in Vancouver to be set up. :wub: