MayorDaley

Woody, Thank you for the feedback. I have considered the Sigil and the reason I have not been using it is because of the CPs. I played Custodes last night (max score!) and I burned through 6 CPs my turn two!!! I will give it a try though. How bad can it be?!? Ghostly Bonds is situational to be sure but it won me the game last night. Custodes Jetbikes did not like that one bit. The Draigo Gate/Bonds, with a CP to extend the range, Wombo Combo got the Jetbikes stuck in a bad spot. That was the CP heavy turn two by the way. I don't always, very rarely, run the one sqd as a ten man and that is probably why I have not tried Sanctuary. The Strikes and Interceptors being the only units without a native 4++ made me not look at it. Five man sqds with an 4++, that have to be in range of Draigo do not appeal to me I suppose. Of the four games that I have run it as a 10 man sqd, in two, I gated Pelenas over to support so Draigo could not have cast it on them anyway. I will consider it and attempt it soon. Vortex always sounds good to me but I end using Gate/Amplification with Draigo. The range of Vortex is also a negative in my mind. I feel the 12" range is is a good way to give my opponent a way to shoot me up. I really use Draigo as support piece until something gets into my deployment zone objectives. I do feel that Kai is usually is casting Amplification though... I will try out Draigo with Gate, Sanctuary and Vortex next game. It might be gold! Any thoughts on secondarys? This is where I feel like I am fumbling around a bit. To the Last is so good for me and I routinely score 10 pts from it. Purifying Ritual can be a real big deal with the right missions and that is where I am struggling at the moment. If I get a mission with less than 5 objectives I can not seem to make Ritual work. I do like my opponent to come to me but I can take Engage, or whatever they are calling Linebreaker now, if they are going to sit back. Thank you for feedback and Cheers!

Greetings Brothers! New edition, new book and a new list. I have played a variation of this list about 15 games now, (Table Top Simulator is amazing!) and have finally tweaked it to this list. It started out as a double Brotherhood of Rapiers and Swordbearers, which I saw won a tourney, Congats bud! I had CP issues with it and dropped the Rapiers Brotherhood so I can have two turns of 4-5 CPs. It has fought against: Orks (Speed Freaks), Death Guard, Black Templars, 'Nids, Necrons, Deathwatch and Custodes. The roughest matchup for me is the Bugs, mostly because of the Hive Guard that shoot though walls 2xs a turn... (dude picked the maps as well, twice, ugh) I am totally open to any suggestions as I am building this entire list as my Grey Knight army was stolen by a "friend". (Burn in hell Ron) Battalion Detachment Grey Knights 12CP, 2,000pts Swordbearers Brotherhood + HQ + Kaldor Draigo Supreme Grand Master - 180 pts -Gate of Infinity, Empyric Amplification, Ghostly Bonds Grand Master Varden Kai in Nemesis Dreadknight - Warlord - Unyielding Anvil - 215 Pts -Gate of Infinity, and Empyric Amplification -Dreadknight Teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, and Nemesis Greatsword Brother-Captain Cadrig Pelenas - 150 pts -Warp Shaping -Destroyer of Crys'yllix, Foretelling of Locus, and Master-crafted storm bolter + Troops + Strike Squad - 220 pts -9x Grey Knight with Nemesis Force Swords -Justicar with Nemesis Force Sword Strike Squad -220 pts -9x Grey Knight with Nemesis Force Swords -Justicar with Nemesis Force Sword Strike Squad - 220 pts -9x Grey Knight with Nemesis Force Swords -Grey Knight Justicar with Nemesis Force Sword + Fast Attack + Interceptor Squad - 120 pts -4x Interceptor with Nemesis Force Sword -Interceptor Justicar with Nemesis Force Sword Interceptor Squad - 120 pts -4x Interceptor with Nemesis Force Sword -Interceptor Justicar with Nemesis Force Sword + Heavy Support + Nemesis Dreadknight - 185 pts -Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, and Nemesis Greatsword Nemesis Dreadknight - 185 pts -Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, and Nemesis Greatsword Nemesis Dreadknight -185 pts -Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, and Nemesis Greatsword My thoughts about this list: Super flexible and fairly mobile I really prefer 2nd turn, other wise I find that I move just to move and then get shot up for zero reason. I was using all Halbreds but with Hammerhand, the sword does a bit more work. My buddy talked me into trying the Brother Captain out and Brother Captain Pelenas has been the MVP multiple games! I can hear it now, how and why?!? Mostly because of Warp Shaping, Tactical Precision and The Destroyer. Also, Draigo can juice him up and then gate him over to help out. *Look below.* Recently, roughly six games ago, I started running the Strikes in 10 man sqds so I can use "To the Last" and combat sqd them all over to mess with my opponent. I have left one sqd as a 10 man sqd and deepstruck, (past tense of deepstrike?) them with a NDK. That with Gate, usually means I have a table quarter that I did not have a turn before. *Here is where BC Pelenas has done some work.* "Purifying Ritual" is my other go to but I have found that if it is not five or more objectives I have a really hard time pulling it off. What secondarys does everyone think may work? "Engage on all Fronts" is usually one I can achieve but I really prefer to sit back and let my opponent come to me. I do prefer to be reactive. If I see an opening or gap, I will shoot for it! So far, it seems to exasperate a bad decision made by my opponent. Good to be back and I look forward to hearing what everyone has to say. Cheers

1998pts 2 battalions 9CP Lias 195 Lt MC bolter jp 81 Tac LC (5) 90pts Tac LC (5) 90pts Tac LC (5) 90pts Sternguard (10) 180pts Dev (5) mm×4 cherub 170pts Dev (5) mm×4 cherub 170pts Veterans LC sniper×3 bolter 87pts Veterans LC sniper×3 bolter 87pts Veterans LC sniper×3 bolter 87pts Company commander WLT grand strategist_ kurov Aquila_relic bolter 31pts GMNDK 260pts GMNDK 260pts Drop the Guardsman and add Strikes...?

Totally off-topic, but thank you for your service. Without guys like you, we wouldn't be able to play with our plastic war dollies. Cheers

Great thread! What would the optimized Calgar list look like? Calgar deepstriking in with 1 big TDA unit? or 2/3 five man units? Khonehunter mentioned podding in some Sternguard. Maybe load SG in a Stormraven and have Calgar and crew position off of that. 3 tac sqds in RBs for midfield. 2 Dev sqds with missile launchers and one lascannon. Libby for some defense and smite. Some real possibilities here. I could see this idea working. Cheers

You took an arrow in the knee?

Really enjoy them. Gives me the opportunity to learn from yer experiences. Cheers

Found the index, decent price as well. I'm gonna grab it and roll out my 'glaives. Finally get to use my fancy FW bits. Cheers

My "buddy" borrowed, and never returned my IA collection, how do I go about getting rules fer the 'glaive now? Repurchasing all the IAs is defo not in my budget atm.

gonna follow this thread, so very interested!