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Sorry I am late to this. Congrats jlm, and that was awesome of you donating your prize.

Just call Customer Support. They are great guys there. I had issues with my codex (not Dark Angels) after a few months of not even being read (since I got the iPad version for the reading,) and Customer Support rectified my issue. So I recommend calling them and letting them know your codex was damaged when you got it.

Saw this link on Dakka. I wonder if this will help part of the discussion since I don't play 40K very well, maybe this can help with the discussion with either we agree or disagree. :) http://www.frontlinegaming.org/2017/12/10/dark-angels-codex-review-part-1-stratagems-warlord-traits-relics-and-psychic-powers/

Just coming back to the hobby after dealing with depression and life. So nice to see that we are so friendly here and someone is willing to do something nice for perfect strangers. For my story, I don't have much stories to tell, but it was back in 4th edition Dark Angel codex when the the 5th edition Space Marine codex came out. I played my first ever tournament. Not knowing the rules everyone was very nice to me. A few people kept saying, "why are you using the Dark Angels codex, use the Space Marine one.". I replied "no it's ok, I want to use my codex." Funny, I am stubborn that way. I guess I fit in perfectly being a Dark Angel. I got crushed, but had a blast. Had some good funny stories how Azzy got scared and ran away (failing a morale test) and how Belial fell over his shoe laces crossing dangerous terrain. I forgot my way after that. Life, depression. Only started playing again, because we finally have a gaming store and now it brought people back playing 40K again. So when we finally got a new codex in 7th and 7th edition there was nobody to play with until end of 7th. Now I have come back and realized after reading these posts I truely have lost my way, and while I forgot what I said back in 5th edition I will try and repeat it from what I can remember. This is aimed at no one buy myself so I can reinvigorate my passion for the Dark Angels. This is a reminder for me of what passion I lost. Just remember this was for 5th edition back then, but I am trying to make it into today for myself. I am digging out my Dark Angels and can't wait to restart my army. So here goes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am a Dark Angel I am a Dark Angel. I play as a Dark Angel. I don't play to win, I play to have fun. I play because I am passionate about the Dark Angels. I love the fluff. I love the minis. I love the history. While it may have lied dormant, I have Dark Angel blood in me. I like how we have different ways to play. I love how we have different character to play. While the rules may not regulate to it, I can take pride in my minis when I field them on the field as Dark Angels and not Space Marines in green. I do not knock off the the players who use the 5th edition Space Wolf codex to play as Dark Angels, for they do so because it gives they minis character with rules to play as Dark Angles. They do not do it to win, but to play as Dark Angels that our 4th edition codex does not let us do. We do not need to win. We play to win yes, but we play for fun. We use the Dark Angels codex or play as Dark Angles that uses rules that can be relayed as Dark Angels when we play. We still loose. We still smile because we are playing with what we love. With what we are passionate about. While we may loose a lot, we do win sometimes. OH how much if the victory so much sweeter when we do win with our 4th edition codex or rules that represent Dark Angels. I love our minis. I love the style of them. I love how we can paint them in multiple ways. We can paint them green. We can paint the white. We can paint them black. We can paint them any colour we want and we are always still as one. Yes we may cry. Yes we may pout and complain. We act like little children having tantrums because our rules are bad or our rules don't really let us play as Dark Angels. Why do we complain? We complain because we are passionate about what we are. We love our history. We love our lore. Again, while we all love to win, we don't need to win. Why don't we need to win? Because we play Dark Angels. If we needed to win, we would be playing another army. Those armies do not give us joy though. Our modelling, our painting, our conversions, blood sweet and tears go into our minis. We take pride of our Dark Angel minis when we place them on the battlefield. While we know we face an uphill battle because our codex our the rules we choose to use, "gimp" us, we play like we are Dark Angels. You can say we are stubborn. No matter the odds, we still continue to play, just like our Brethen who lost their lives to the Genestealers. They didn't balk. They took on the odds and lost. So while we may complain like little children that we have it so bad compared to others, we are only human. So we are unlike Dark Angels that way, that we misbehave that way. Again we are just human. We are also very much like the minis we play with as well. Because we are human, we are passionate. No matter the rules, we still buy our minis. We still enjoy modelling them. We still enjoy converting them. We still enjoy painting them. We have passion when we play them. While I may have lost my way, I found my way home. I am Dark Angel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So nice to be back, Home.

Well it's either a lie or my wallet is going to be crying. With the Games Workshop rule of thumb, no mini, no rules, and since The Lion has stats in the rumour that would mean it will be getting a mini, or the rumour is false. What ever it is, it's exciting non the less. :D

Coming back from a long hiatus. This is a very welcome thing to see. Thank you for showing.

I don't get this. After only reading one Dark Angel book, I belive the introduction of Zahreal (sorry forget the name of the book) wasn't it said in that book that The Lion didn't like most of the sons of Caliban and took to the Dark Angels made from Earth (or else where). I thought he looked down on Caliban Dark Angels because they failed that mission in the book. Am I wrong and he changed his mind later or is this how he really sees the sons of Caliban?

Wish I never came in here. For some reason, I can't paint no more. My burshes have mysteriously have been snapped and I can't find my other ones. They seem to be in hiding. Kidding aside, beautiful work, like WOW. Just WOW!

Oh man wow. Love all those conversions. I think I will just crawl into the corner into the fetal position and cry for a bit now only dreaming that I can do this.

Please explain. I haven't read the HH series. I tried, just can't get into it.

Stubborn. LOL. Pun intended? :P

I am rereading the Dark Angel codex so I can find some fluff for my Unforgiven Chapter for the competition we are having. I was reading and came apon on that the first Chapter Master said the Dark Angels are Unforgiven until all the Fallen are captured and repent. So let's say this happens. Who is to say we are Forgiven now? After all, if the High Lords of Terra and anyone else in the Imperium found out, the Dark Angels would still become outcasts and labeled Traitor. So who will say that the Dark Angels are no long traitor or use to be traitor? I guess the Emperor if he ever comes back could do this, but who else? Are the Unforgiven damned for all eternity even when they become The Forgiven?

What are the Do's and Don'ts when making up fluff? I have some idea's thrown around in my head which may be considered sacrilege and make me go straight to room 42.

After taking another break, coming back. I was thinking hard what to do for my DA successor chapter. I am not sure of what I want. At first I was thinking of Knights of Redemption. I am not sure if that name is taken already or I have herd of it from somewhere before. I also am thinking of Specters of Caliban. So I will try and do one of them. So is Knights of Redemption already taken from somewhere?

Been gone for a bit. Nice to see a good update. Wow, great job, keep it up.