TheHarrower

Do a couple washes of Cassandora Yellow. That will strengthen the color and make it more yellow as well as shade the recesses.

You can't change a book or a thread, by it's cover. The negativity is mostly gone. Maybe next time read the first page then the last?

I've used both Predators and Devs. They both have their uses, but I think I like Devs better. In cover you get a 2+ save, Signum allows 1 model to hit on a 2+, and an armorium cherub will give you an extra shot. Instead of taking 2 units with 8 models and 4 LC each, break it up into 4 units with 2 LC each. 4 of which always hit on a 2+. Plus, you can field them as a Heavy Detachment for the +1 CP. As an added bonus, spend another 40 points and add a heavy bolter into each squad.

I'm not surprised. I think it's going to take some time for people to play the army right. It would help if links to the batreps were posted.

Nope. You can use options for a units gear from the Index. Srsly wonder why they didn’t just include this in the dex... It's their weird new philosophy of not putting options in the Dex if they don't make a model for it. I dunno, it's weird. I hope they'll address stuff like this in the future with some sort of book that allows you to modify or create your own units.

Nope. You can use options for a units gear from the Index.

Made some tweaks to my initial list. Here is where I'm at. Playing a few people on Saturday. I'm worried it's a tad too assault heavy, but I do have a lot of threats on the board to hopefully split my opponents fire. I really like the idea of splitting up Dev Squads. Let's you double up on the Signum so I always have 2 Lascannons hitting on a 2+. Really not sold on the Warlord Trait, but I think Artisan of War or Visions of Sanguinus is where it's at. I do like the idea of a -3 Power Sword doing a flat 2 damage. Not sure on the Veritas Vitae, but I guess if I start with 6 Command Points I should make at least that one back. BATTALION HQ Warlord - Sanguinary Priest w/ Jump Pack, Power Sword, Bolt Pistol, Angel's Wing, Artisan of War Librarian w/ Jump Pack, Force Sword, Bolt Pistol, Veritas Vitae TROOPS 5 Tactical Marines w/ Lascannon, Storm Bolter 5 Scouts w/ Snipers 5 Scouts w/ Bolt Pistol, Combat Blade HEAVY 5 Devastators w/ 2 Lascannons, Heavy Bolter, Cherub 5 Devastators w/ 1 Lascannon, Heavy Bolter, Cherub VANGUARD HQ Mephiston ELITES 10 Vanguard Veterans w/ Jump Pack, 1 Relic Blade, 3 Storm Shields, 2 Power Swords, 7 Dual Chainswords 10 Death Company w/ Jump Pack, 1 Thunder Hammer, 1 Power Axe, Bolters, Chainswords Death Company Dreadnought w/ Blood Talons, Storm Bolter, Meltagun FAST ATTACK 5 Assault Marines w/ Jump Pack, 1 Power Axe, 1 Hand Flamer, Melta Bombs, 2 Meltaguns FLYER Stormraven w/ AssCans, Melta, Hurricane Bolters 2,000 Points - 6 Command Points (spent 1 pre-battle to have 2 Relics) Thoughts?

So regarding things that infuriate me with our new Codex, Death Company currently can't use the Forlorn Fury Stratagem because they don't have the Death Company and Infantry keywords. This same typo was in the Index proving they just copied and pasted the entry over. That will need to be FAQ'd.

Don't apologize man. Just trying to help the fellow fraters out.

Relics don't cost points. You get one for free with your army. If you want a second one, it costs 1 CP. If you want 3 total, it costs 3CP.

This fact is exactly unchanged from the Index and primarily why the Blood Angels have sucked in 8th imo... at least we're not also paying premium point costs and some units can actually do reasonably well on their own now though. I feel like a thing for us should have been bigger auras OR a rule to make Heroic intervention happen when we charge - to help the heroes keep up. Why does Heroic intervention only happen for defensive armies. It's silly. Characters should be able to attach themselves to a unit and group charge with one roll, but I digress.

What do they mean by just a shooty dread? Standard loadout is 2 fists, storm bolter, meltagun. It can take talons or frag cannon. Frag cannon is 8" Assault 2D6 S6 -1 1 for 38 points.

Only transport options would be Storm Raven or Land Raider since they are the only ones that can carry Jump Pack models, but RAW that appears to be the case. That will probably be FAQ'd.

They're all 9.

No storm shield.