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Modelling: True Scale, My Tuturial


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Hey guys, ive been asked to do a tutorial by BLARRGG!! of how i did my true scale marines.
The link is here. LINK
Truescale Marines

Scale comparison
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Bitz and tools

The first thing is you need your bitz and tools. i used these
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Thats a tactical marine.
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Tools; vice, razor saw, cheap and expensive superglue, clippers, drill, triange and flat files and an xacto knife.
The most important and most obvious is plasticard, i used 1mm.

When i say do it roughly i find it easier to do the main neatening when it is together, the only exeption is on the arms which are fiddly is holdind across the body.
The Legs
Id recomend not moldlining before assembly as you can use this as how to align the legs after you chop then
cut the legs here with a razor saw and vice, insert plasticard inbetween where you have cut.
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clip these down roughly but dont bother filling yet.

Next cut the top section of the legs and, again insert plasticard spacers,
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again clip them down.

Clip the top down so the ball joint is flat.
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The Body
clip the pegs off the front of the body, then put 1mm plasticard onthe front
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Clip round the plasticard so it fits into the body.
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Then glue and line up the body. then glue a square of plasticard to the bottom and clip round it.
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Back pack
Cut the backpack in half and yet again add a strip of plasticard inbetween.
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slice and clip this down roughly again.

Arms
First slice the arms under the sholderpad thing and insert a spacer.
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this should be filed properly as it will be arkward to do after assembly.

Next do the same with the lower half of the arms, try to use details in the models arms as a guide when you are re glueing then. again file these properly.
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The Bolter (optional)
This is optional as it depends on whether or not you like small guns or ones like the bolter fits now. I would recommend extending it as it looks better and fits nicer.
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File this properly for the same reasons as the arms.

Finishing off

This is the time to assemble your model. i recommend in these steps
Glue the body to the legs
The head(un converted) to the body
Now add the head and a small spacer to the side of the arms holdind the bolter(to counter the spacer in its lower arm) ignore the one on the other shoulder as i did this wrong. i later dropped the camera so couldnt change it.
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Now glue on the arms, correcting the angles in them as nessecary(this is why i use super glue, it is easy to remove and restick)
Glue to a base.

This is done and the one i did for the tuturial turned out like this.
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Hope you liked this, its quite quick if you do it enough and one marine now takes me 30mins to make.
post your own models and rate this please :HQ:

EDIT; removed optional before Finishing, i dont reccomend not doing this :HQ:
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Edited by Kurgan the Lurker, 12 July 2009 - 03:17 PM.

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Want to do true scale, click HERE!! (Very old guide)


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And now for the termies;
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On these i sawed the legs in half and added spacers to them, i used 2mm plasticard for this, but they need shoulder pads to look right, as they will look to slim if they havent got them. Them file the ball joint flat on the legs and put a spacer around the bottom of the body, this further increases the height.
If you still think this looks to small bulk it up with GS like i have with this one.
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Or this
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Cry Wolf

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Want to do true scale, click HERE!! (Very old guide)


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Cry Wolf i give your tutorial an 11.5 out of 10!!!!

thanks a lot for enlightening me to your ways of true scaling. i will post pics of marines that i do in this way (maybe later today if ur lucky)

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VERY NICE!

One HUGE request though - Please open Paint or whatever and shrink those pictures!! Keep the size, but save them at lower quality or something, no need to be over 200kb each IMO. Also, crop off the unneeded outside bits, leaving only a small amount around the outside. I hate having dial up, this thread is literally taking hours to load. :P

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so THATS how you do it? all hail Cry Wolf!

i said hail! *shakes fist at monitor*

lol

a great way to truescale marines, i must try it tonight on a test mini - if im empressed ill re do my chaos! i mean it! your Truescale marines are soo cool <_<

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All the images have finally loaded and all I can say is WOW! Excellent job, I'm really tempted to do this now. Although it is a lot of work. Maybe for my Lord only?

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WOW!!! That is alot of work you have put into your minitures. For those of us with less skills a way to increase the size of models is by placing plasticard on feet and also where legs and torso meet. Wont look anywhere near as good as what Cry Wolf has done, but it is a start. Looking forward to seeing them painted. Also with your technique is there a specific spot you have to insert the plasticard for each spot. For example with the legs, does it make a difference if you put the plasticard just above the ankle or just below the knee?

Cheers Messanger

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No i doesnt matter where you put it, i just recommend that you cut it in a place where you can easily line them up when you stick them back together

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Visit my Truescale Rout Blog here! Youll love it...
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Want to do true scale, click HERE!! (Very old guide)


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Thanks for shrinking the pictures mate. B)

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do you chop some of the top leg socket off??

otherwise aren't you just glueing rounded edge to flat edge??


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Yeh i did this in the last picture under the legs title ;)

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Edited by Cry Wolf, 14 January 2008 - 06:22 PM.

RAISE PROSPERO, FOR RUSS, FOR THE WARMASTER. FOR THE EMPEROR!!

Visit my Truescale Rout Blog here! Youll love it...
http://www.bolterand...he-heresyhobby/

Want to do true scale, click HERE!! (Very old guide)


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Wants to steal for B&C Librarium... Chuck a few headers in and she'll be ready to go ;) BBCodes Tut.

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Cool ill put in headers ;)

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RAISE PROSPERO, FOR RUSS, FOR THE WARMASTER. FOR THE EMPEROR!!

Visit my Truescale Rout Blog here! Youll love it...
http://www.bolterand...he-heresyhobby/

Want to do true scale, click HERE!! (Very old guide)


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I did a 'true scale' ish marine in power armour. I used the 1st edition plastic terminator legs on a spaced out power armour body and the terminator arms.

It was my first attempt at a conversion but wanted a big wolf lord to lead my great company (when i get it done.)

Your way seems less hassle by a long way. Cool tutorial.
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I cant see the pictures anymore. You might have to move some of theme to a new account because your Photobucket account has exceded the bandwidth allowed. Id love to see the pics though.
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I'm still not sure what I think of true-scale. It looks good, but doesn't it look really out of place and strange when gaming, especially against other power-armoured races?

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No it doesnt look out of place really, its better to put them on larger bases but its not really needed, Since the pics have gone down can anyone tell me how to sort this without doing Pro. For now here is a LINK

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http://www.bolterand...he-heresyhobby/

Want to do true scale, click HERE!! (Very old guide)


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what thickness platicar is that??
has anybody cossed this with doghouses gothic marine tecnique???
that would be UBER!!! ;)


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then put 1mm plasticard onthe front



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TY

also what are the white rods made of??, on the termie banner and other places like the WG big axe dude (hes cool)

Edited by wiplash, 21 January 2008 - 06:01 PM.



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Argh, I can't see the pics! :wub:
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@ wiplash;Yeh i have some on the front page :wub:. and the big axe guy is from thick plasticard rod, I think 0.4 cm
@ crusader; click on the new link on my last post

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RAISE PROSPERO, FOR RUSS, FOR THE WARMASTER. FOR THE EMPEROR!!

Visit my Truescale Rout Blog here! Youll love it...
http://www.bolterand...he-heresyhobby/

Want to do true scale, click HERE!! (Very old guide)


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where can i get hold of the rods in the UK??
hobbycraft??


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wiplash - i use johnsons cotton buds - the spare cotton pulled off them with a bit of pva brushed on lightly makes ok smoke for burnt out terrain etc. Hobbycraft only do balsa rods, well the nearest one to me does anyhow.

Failing that try this place - Terrain Warehouse UK

I havent used them but was thinking of giving them a go. If you use them would you be so kind as to let me know what they are like (delivery time, service etc.)
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think i will use the cotton buds, cheaper and more accessable

the pics at the top work for me now


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