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1000pts
#1
Posted 18 July 2008 - 09:12 AM

Also the LRC is so tough to begin with it would nearly guarantee that the sqad would reach the foe for his cargo to rip him apart in CC and be such a fire magnet that the rest of the army would be undamaged when they arrive to attack the enemy something like 13 blood claws, 1Wolf guard pack leader and a wolfguard battle leader
Your thoughts?
Icwolf
I'm all for talking nice and being peaceful, but if that fails, I'm all for running their sorry arses down with 90 tons of Land Raider Crusader.
The breakfast of champions is not cearal but the opposition.
There's no such thing as being surrounded, but there are times when you can attack in any direction.
#2
Posted 18 July 2008 - 11:36 AM

D.
#3
Posted 18 July 2008 - 11:42 AM

- The final words of Russ
"Yes,you are a whelp..And like many whelps,occasionally you lose your way,and make a mistake. When that happens,a good cuff around the ears should help set you straight. The thing is,after the first time..generally we lose patience and bite the throat till you realize you made a mistake,or well..They make another one like you and hope that this one comes out better."
- Requiem of the Wolf @ Brother Rathul
#4
Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:48 PM

The biggest problem I had was killing enough with the unit inside the LRC and the LRC itself, for instance when I faced a very heavy land speeder, dreadnaught army I maybe got 1/4 of my points back and ended up loosing the LRC as well as most of the troops after they massacred in CC.
In a smaller list though, I'd go for it, it'll be half your army cost, but hey, if your one-trick pony fails then your footsloggin' blood claws can at least "run" now

#5
Posted 18 July 2008 - 05:35 PM

Reason for the Ven dread is you need the first turn with that tank. Charge forward and pop smoke the first turn if anything can kill you and do the same next turn but with bloodclaws jumping out.
And the Rune priest can cast Storm Caller on either the tank or the dread running along, slowly mind you, but still helping him out. Basically your army is a tank, a dread, An HQ and two troops. Loose the tank early and it's game over.
#6
Posted 18 July 2008 - 05:57 PM

Icewolf
I'm all for talking nice and being peaceful, but if that fails, I'm all for running their sorry arses down with 90 tons of Land Raider Crusader.
The breakfast of champions is not cearal but the opposition.
There's no such thing as being surrounded, but there are times when you can attack in any direction.
#7
Posted 18 July 2008 - 11:04 PM

But yeah, i really love crusaders. I cannot wait till oct when they come out in plastic:D The question you should really be asking yourself is this...is it possible to have a 1000k army consisting only of 2 crusaders and the troops/hq to go in them...and still win? be fun to find out
We are the Sons of Russ, for the All-Father and the Wolf King. From now, until the End Days and the Wolftime. We play by our rules, and noone elses.

#8
Posted 18 July 2008 - 11:45 PM

Proxy time! I really think it would be a solid list, compared to some of the other lousy one-thousand point lists I've seen.But yeah, i really love crusaders. I cannot wait till oct when they come out in plastic:D The question you should really be asking yourself is this...is it possible to have a 1000k army consisting only of 2 crusaders and the troops/hq to go in them...and still win? be fun to find out
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#9
Posted 19 July 2008 - 12:20 AM

For 1k or less - If you desire is a Mechcanised Company then I would go.
Ven. Dread, Rhino, Razorback, Vindicator, LS Tornado's
#10
Posted 19 July 2008 - 01:03 AM

1. the amount of points is a serious sink
2. every point there is one less point in Grey Hunter Packs. i tell anybody i game with, the Grey Hunter Packs were appointed by Russ and the Emperor to be the scariest, most brutal unit of Space Marines around. The Blood Angels play at that, the Black Templars try (and fail) to emulate that. Only the Grey Hunters do it. Marines go traitor out of envy of the coolness of the Grey Hunters.
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I'm so pleased that GW have gone to such great lengths to produce these awesome Space Wolves basing kits. Wraithwing on the Thousand Sons Rubic Marine release
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millenia." - Sagas of the Wolf Priests. Wispy
#11
Posted 19 July 2008 - 05:51 PM

Does the redeemer have increased transport ability? i havent been able to read up on it much...
But yeah, i really love crusaders. I cannot wait till oct when they come out in plastic:D The question you should really be asking yourself is this...is it possible to have a 1000k army consisting only of 2 crusaders and the troops/hq to go in them...and still win? be fun to find out
well if we do a mock list we can come up with 2 cheap HQ's (WGBL's with bolt pistol frost axe and 4 wolves (since no invuln saves) and 2 grey hunters in each squad (very basic, trying to keep them cheap) you can then have 2 LRC, and meet the requirements for 1000 points, at this point however, you face space wolves, he has a long fang squad, 2 las cannons, split fire, blow up both LRC and now you have the cheapest units available and a whole lot of shooty left to kill them while they foot slog.
It's a list that's either you win big, or loose big, if you get lucky, the LRC's stay alive, and reduce your kill points drastically while killing off your opponents, OR they blow up quickly, and leave your opponent to slaughter your cheap units and you might get 1 kill point.
It's a fun way to play (in my book) where there's a lot of chance, but others who get angry when half their list goes up in smoke first turn, I'd suggest to not play such a list.
#12
Posted 19 July 2008 - 05:59 PM

We are the Sons of Russ, for the All-Father and the Wolf King. From now, until the End Days and the Wolftime. We play by our rules, and noone elses.

#13
Posted 20 July 2008 - 09:56 AM

Wolf Guard Battle Leader -
Bolt pistol
Frag grenades
Frost Blade
Venerable Dreadnaught -
Assault Cannon
2x 6 Grey hunters
Bolters
Rhino
11 Blood claws
2x power weapon
1x power fist
Land Raider Crusader
Total 1000pts
Icewolf
I'm all for talking nice and being peaceful, but if that fails, I'm all for running their sorry arses down with 90 tons of Land Raider Crusader.
The breakfast of champions is not cearal but the opposition.
There's no such thing as being surrounded, but there are times when you can attack in any direction.
#14
Posted 20 July 2008 - 05:01 PM

#15
Posted 21 July 2008 - 07:30 PM

Icewolf
I'm all for talking nice and being peaceful, but if that fails, I'm all for running their sorry arses down with 90 tons of Land Raider Crusader.
The breakfast of champions is not cearal but the opposition.
There's no such thing as being surrounded, but there are times when you can attack in any direction.
#16
Posted 23 July 2008 - 06:55 PM

Wolf Guard Battle Leader
Bolt pistol
Frag grenades
Frost Blade
Wolf pelt
Wolf tail talisman
Venerable Dreadnaught
Assault Cannon
2x 8 Grey hunters
Bolters
plasma gun
11 Blood claws
2x power weapon
1x power fist
Land Raider Crusader
Total 998
C&C welcome
Icewolf
I'm all for talking nice and being peaceful, but if that fails, I'm all for running their sorry arses down with 90 tons of Land Raider Crusader.
The breakfast of champions is not cearal but the opposition.
There's no such thing as being surrounded, but there are times when you can attack in any direction.
#17
Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:13 PM

Only other idea would be switch out the WGBL with a cheap Wolf priest at 96 pts. (Just add frag)
Good 1k pts list otherwise
#18
Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:51 PM

so the revised list again
Wolf Guard Battle Leader
Bolt pistol
Frag grenades
Frost Blade
Venerable Dreadnaught
Assault Cannon
Smoke lanchers
Extra armour
8 Grey hunters
5x Bolters
plasma gun
8 Grey hunters
4x Bolters
plasma gun
11 Blood claws
2x power weapon
1x power fist
Land Raider Crusader
Smoke lanchers
Total 1000
C&C welcome
Icewolf
I'm all for talking nice and being peaceful, but if that fails, I'm all for running their sorry arses down with 90 tons of Land Raider Crusader.
The breakfast of champions is not cearal but the opposition.
There's no such thing as being surrounded, but there are times when you can attack in any direction.
#19
Posted 23 July 2008 - 09:13 PM

Rune Priest with Wolf Helm of Russ, Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Wolf Tail Talisman 123
2 Land Raider Crusaders with Smoke 536
2x 10 Grey Hunters 340
There is a two LRC list tear it apart as you see fit but I actually am gonna try it out

Wait hang on this has no tank killing ability Darn you new rending rule!
1 land raider with smoke
1 land raider crusader with smoke
1 grey hunter squad with fags and flamer (these go in regular land raider while the rune priest and the other guys head on into the crusader)
there we go!
Edited by Bullet_magnet, 23 July 2008 - 09:17 PM.
#20
Posted 23 July 2008 - 09:19 PM


#21
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#22
Posted 24 July 2008 - 12:07 AM

#23
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#24
Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:26 AM

WGBL [85pt]
F.Weap, B.Pistol, Frags, W.Pelt
WGBL [85pt]
F.Weap, B.Pistol, Frags, W.Pelt
+TROOPS+
8x G.Hunters [167pt]
1x Melta, 1x P.Fist & Bolter, 6x CC.Weap & Bolter
8x B.Claws [124pt]
2x P.Fist & B.Pistol
+HEAVY+
Landraider Crusader [268pt]
Smoke
Landraider [258pt]
Ex.Armour, Smoke
TOTAL: 999pt
For Bullet's dual-Raider list, and as to the Crusader in 1000pt...
+HQ+
WGBL [85pt]
F.Weap, B.Pistol, Frags, W.Pelt
SW Ven.Dread [173pt]
P.Cannon (remember, rending got nerfed, and blast templates got a boost), P.Fist with S.Bolter, Ex.Armour, Smoke
+TROOPS+
8x G.Hunters [155]
P.Gun, 7x CC.Weap & Bolter
8x G.Hunters [155]
P.Gun, 7x CC.Weap & Bolter
10x B.Claws [164]
2x P.Fist & B.Pistol
+HEAVY+
Landraider Crusader [268pt]
Smoke
TOTAL: 1000pt
Edited by Silverwolf, 25 July 2008 - 04:27 AM.
- The final words of Russ
"Yes,you are a whelp..And like many whelps,occasionally you lose your way,and make a mistake. When that happens,a good cuff around the ears should help set you straight. The thing is,after the first time..generally we lose patience and bite the throat till you realize you made a mistake,or well..They make another one like you and hope that this one comes out better."
- Requiem of the Wolf @ Brother Rathul
#25
Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:56 AM




but INMO if I were running the former list I think that I will swap out the fists for a few more marines! after all the two land raiders should have more than enough stoppin' power all by themselves. I sure hope I don't run into any railguns with this list though!