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Space Wolf Blood Claw/Grey Hunter Sgts
#1
Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:06 PM


#2
Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:28 PM

#3
Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:31 PM


#4
Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:44 PM

Wolves don't have Sgts…we use Wolf Guard Pack Leaders instead…look those bad boys up in yer codex
#5
Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:44 PM

#6
Posted 24 July 2008 - 10:52 PM


#7
Posted 24 July 2008 - 11:26 PM

Edited by Grantyr Greymantle, 24 July 2008 - 11:26 PM.
#8
Posted 24 July 2008 - 11:37 PM


#9
Posted 25 July 2008 - 12:48 AM

there are no sergeants. There are pack leaders (the strongest BC or GH in the pack) but he gets no extra stats or gear. You could give your pack leader a PF and PP for example, but he's still a regular GH.
That's why we have WG's attached to the pack...or/and IC.
Edited by Jonny Wolf, 25 July 2008 - 12:53 AM.
In Russ we trust, all others kiss my axe.



#10
Posted 25 July 2008 - 12:52 AM

In any case as for my question it has been answered =)

#11
Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:41 AM


#12
Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:25 AM


But as stated, we don't have Sgts, just the option to take WGL's in a pack (which are WAY better than sgts.) It's also very fluffy and gives you nice conversion options.
I put most of my more recent WGL's and Hq's on larger bases (the new TDA size ones) as it really makes them stand out more and gives more basing options.

#13
Posted 25 July 2008 - 05:34 AM

kieran
Space Wolves are badasses that operate just barely within the rules. 13th Co. didn't even know there were rules applying to how badass they could be. DepthCharge on the Space Wolves
I'm so pleased that GW have gone to such great lengths to produce these awesome Space Wolves basing kits. Wraithwing on the Thousand Sons Rubic Marine release
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millenia." - Sagas of the Wolf Priests. Wispy
#14
Posted 25 July 2008 - 06:31 AM


Ragnar was also known to be with the Blood Claws during Wolf Lord, due to liking being with the hot-blooded BC's, but that said, SW's would be awesome (i guess) if we had the sergeant option in the next codex

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#15
Posted 25 July 2008 - 02:49 PM

#16
Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:42 PM

The Ragnar series is probably the source of this confusion, as several times Ragnar is named as a sergeant 2nd in charge even though the Pack already has a Wolf Guard Leader.
Quoted for Truth.
Tho there is a reason for it:
first Ragnar book copyright = 1999
3e Space Wolf Codex copyright = 2000
So when the author familiarised himself with the fluff he would have had to use the 2nd edition codex, in which all Space Wolf Packs came with Sergeant as standard in addition to having the option to add a Wolf Guard.
Edited by Vodunius, 25 July 2008 - 03:44 PM.
Horus killed Sanguinius so hard that his entire chapter feels it forever..
#17
Posted 25 July 2008 - 06:28 PM

If a pack hasn't got a strong leader or if the pack leader isn't really qualified *he may be a tough git but lacks leadership skills) a Wolf Guard would either be assigned or assighn himself to the pack to show them some real leadership skills.
That's how I see it anyhow.
#18
Posted 25 July 2008 - 09:28 PM

couldn't agree more.
In Russ we trust, all others kiss my axe.



#19
Posted 26 July 2008 - 02:40 AM

The Ragnar series is probably the source of this confusion, as several times Ragnar is named as a sergeant 2nd in charge even though the Pack already has a Wolf Guard Leader.
kieran
Actually Sgt Hakon is refered to as the Sgt and Ragnar is refered to as the pack leader as he constantly challenges Hakon and is challenged by Sven and the rest of the pack. When Hakon is wounded during the assault to retake the temple with Russ' spear (can't remember right off the top of my head the name of the planet) Ragnar is promoted to Sgt of the pack by Wolf Lord Barek Thunderfist.
There actually IS the rank of Sgt in the pack, according to the Space Wolf Omnibus written by William King...also the details of the Grey Hunters and Blood Claw box sets state : "and includes options for a Sergeant, a variety of weapons, wargear options and extra details." Coming directly from Games Workshop I am taking that at face value =)
At least that is what my memory gives me...

#20
Posted 26 July 2008 - 03:50 AM

I think you can look through your codex till the wolves come home and not find stats or wargear or any other options for a Sarge. But you will find all the above for a Wolf Guard Leader…
#21
Posted 26 July 2008 - 11:02 AM

My original post asked wether or not a Sgt cost extra points or had any extra features not wether or not they existed, as ALL military organizations have the rank of Sgt, even the Space Wolves. The highest ranking member of a pack will be the Pack Leader, wether that be a Wolf Guard, a Sgt, or the best pack member who stands above his peers within the pack, those are ALL pack leaders.

#22
Posted 26 July 2008 - 11:04 AM

He'd be the guy with the power sword.
Speaking of which. With the loss of attacks for power fists is it worth changing some power fists to power weapons... though of course power weapons may have more attacks, but they're still only strength 4. I think it's time to add pack leaders to all our squads. Power weapons for the troops, power fists on the pack leaders. Two attacks are twice as good as one.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 11:12 AM


#24
Posted 27 July 2008 - 09:02 AM

Should I give him the pair of mega-gloves or his standard load-out? e.g. bolter & powefist.
Even with free upgrades and made a scoring unit, the Tactical Squad still is the "unwanted stepchild" of the Space Marine army.
if Ragnar gets a new model he will be made of Beard, Cheese and Frostblade.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 09:38 PM

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