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Ragnar Blackmane
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 08:53 PM
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I made this model after reading the Space Wolf novels, cause i thought it'b be interesting to see ragnar as a blood claw/grey hunter, i know that the black library did a model of him fighting madox, but it never really looked like ragnar sounded in the books to me, any road, all comments/criticisms welcome as usual!
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 09:11 PM
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Erm - without wishing to criticise too heavily, is it even a space wolf? Just looks like a marine with spikey hair and a chainsword and I cant remember any mention of those fearsome looking sidies. 
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 10:11 PM
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Going by what I remember off the top of my head....
Isn't it mentioned the long hair that Ragnar has... even from the begging of the novel?
Isn't it mentioned the long hair that Ragnar has... even from the begging of the novel?
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 10:22 PM
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Yeah...if I remember correctly, he has long flowing black hair and I believe he's clean shaven too
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 10:44 PM
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Well, anyways, there is always artistic license. Personally, I like it.
Personally, I like it.
Edited by mega_marines, 11 August 2008 - 10:44 PM.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 11:12 PM
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Going by what I remember off the top of my head....
Isn't it mentioned the long hair that Ragnar has... even from the begging of the novel?
No. I recently reread the first three novels. As a Blood Claw, Ragnar and the others all had the customary mohawks.
Not so sure about the sideburns though.
Either way, nice model.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 11:38 PM
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Isn't this a re-post of the same model from a little while ago?
May want to put a SW decal or icon on the shoulder pad.
And SW's chainswords have jagged triangles.
Nice mini though.
May want to put a SW decal or icon on the shoulder pad.
And SW's chainswords have jagged triangles.
Nice mini though.
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Posted 11 August 2008 - 11:47 PM
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Yeah...if I remember correctly, he has long flowing black hair and I believe he's clean shaven too
Nope, Ragnar is a blonde, not a brunette.....at least as far as the original Ragnar Blackmane artwork and 'Eavy Metal painting team was concerned when he was first revealed back in 2nd edition.
Ah, I even found a picture:
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:38 AM
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Yep, Ragnar originally was blonde. There were both a colored artwork and an 'eavy metal painted miniature in the Codex Space Wolves in 2nd Edition. His nickname "Blackmane" came from the black furred wolf he killed during his initiation (I believe) and whose pelt he was wearing.
In 3rd Edition that changed, whether fully on purpose or because the model painter for the 3rd Edition Codex misunderstood the whole "Blackmane" thing I don't know. Since then Ragnar has been painted with black hair and a grey pelt, instead of blonde hair and black pelt like back in 2nd Edition.
In 3rd Edition that changed, whether fully on purpose or because the model painter for the 3rd Edition Codex misunderstood the whole "Blackmane" thing I don't know. Since then Ragnar has been painted with black hair and a grey pelt, instead of blonde hair and black pelt like back in 2nd Edition.
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:58 AM
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Actually, Bill King is the first to screw up Ragnar's hair color. He actually screwed up a lot of the space wolf canon. Problem is that his books were so enjoyable, we just changed the canon. So much for the integrity of the fluff!
BTW, here is my 2nd edition Ragnar. I painted it based on the 2nd edition 'eavy metal:
BTW, here is my 2nd edition Ragnar. I painted it based on the 2nd edition 'eavy metal:
Edited by Grimfoe, 12 August 2008 - 12:59 AM.
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 04:23 PM
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Given that Bill King wrote much of the background in the first place I'd place the blame with the painter of the second edition miniature. At around the same time Dark Angels changed from black to green.Actually, Bill King is the first to screw up Ragnar's hair color. He actually screwed up a lot of the space wolf canon. Problem is that his books were so enjoyable, we just changed the canon. So much for the integrity of the fluff!
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 06:57 PM
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I don't care about Bill King and his description, Blackmane is from the wolf Ragnar slayed which was black and Ragnar was blonde, there's no arguing that...
Back on topic, you could put some vomit brown behind the yellow on the chain sword to make a nice shading effect.
As for the rest of him, I like it, and the Mohawk is really nice.
Back on topic, you could put some vomit brown behind the yellow on the chain sword to make a nice shading effect.
As for the rest of him, I like it, and the Mohawk is really nice.
Edited by Wolf89, 12 August 2008 - 06:58 PM.
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Posted 13 August 2008 - 11:46 AM
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If you check out the front page of the latest version of the novels, you can see that he's got his long hair atleast from the second book and up o.O Since the pictures on the front page show parts of the story.
Also, I re-read the novels just this spring, and I seem to remember that Ragnar got to keep his black hair ... I don't remember the reason though... and I'm not sure I'm right either xD His friend Sven is described to have red hair anyway
And a Moustache, from Novel 2 ... or 3.
Also, I re-read the novels just this spring, and I seem to remember that Ragnar got to keep his black hair ... I don't remember the reason though... and I'm not sure I'm right either xD His friend Sven is described to have red hair anyway
And a Moustache, from Novel 2 ... or 3.
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Posted 13 August 2008 - 08:55 PM
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Good idea but you'll have to skip the Greyhunter part. Ragnar never was (and will be) a Greyhunter. Maybe as a Wolfblade might be an option.
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Posted 14 August 2008 - 03:43 PM
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thanks for the comments guys, although you can't see it cause i forgot to add the second picture, the wolfskin on ragnar's back is indeed black, but i chose his hair colour from the cover illustrations of the novels.
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Posted 21 August 2008 - 10:02 PM
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I cant find any , where did the 1st description of him being blonde come from?
Sources pls? This will be interesting
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Posted 21 August 2008 - 10:17 PM
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Codex Space Wolves, 2nd Edition. Not only was the Eavy Metal painted Ragnar model on page 22 blonde, there was also a full color artwork of Ragnar (blonde) on page 17. One could have made the case for the Eavy Metal painter not knowing how Ragnar was supposed to look, but a color artwork?
Edited by Legatus, 21 August 2008 - 10:18 PM.
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Posted 21 August 2008 - 10:57 PM
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Ah that explains it. My codex is dated 2000.
Ragnar being blonde is new news to me, 1st time I heard it here.
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Ragnar being blonde is new news to me, 1st time I heard it here.
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Posted 22 August 2008 - 02:07 AM
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Around WD issue 118 the first RT Era Ragnar is blonde.
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