Iron Lord Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 What do you guys think of this book? have not read it properly, but skipped to the major spoilers- interesting. Especially as to one of the Emperor's prevoius aliases on Old Earth, which can be surmised. Saint George! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Richard Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Can't say yet...still trudging through...I can't wait for the Knight figures to re-emerge in 40k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyp100 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Oh...My...Chaos Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focslain Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Won't be out til next week in my local book store, will get it as soon as it arrives however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jipimus Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Half way through it and am really enjoying it, showing a different side to teh 40k universe from what is usually covered in all things fluffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 on page 304, an other 100 page to go.. nice read, missing the action a bit. on the other end, info on the Mechanicum and tech priest. I dont know what the end will bring. sort of waiting for that cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz1858 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Finished the book last night and i do think it is a very good read. Delving into the secretive Mechanicum and the notable information contained in the book leaves me wanting more. One of the best Horus Heresy books in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 ;) i soooooo wish i did not read that spoiler ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elenaria Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Will not read thread >.< ...yet. I'm savouring it, reading it slooowly and carefully. Of course, whatever happens in it, I won't mind, because the prologue was SO DAMN GOOD that I read it thrice before I could even start on the rest of the book. Perfect. Awesome. THAT is how I would have imagined it. And even if someone here is NOT reading the series, they should read that prologue. Because at least I, find it pure gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonPrinceDargor Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Finished it,loved it.Mr McNeil did a great job,one of the best books in the series in my opinion.And now,as always, can't wait till March for Tales of Heresy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ansgar Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I've only read the first few chapters so far, and I have to say, the Emperor's entrance was exactly how I imagined it would be. I really can't wait to read the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Spikey Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Pg.329 further 'info' on the 2 Lost Legions, when Dorn and Malcador are talking about how many loyalist legion there are. Malcador say Horus has 3 other Legion with him (obviously doesn't know about Istavaan 5 yet) whilst Dorn has the Fists and 13 others. Dorn replies with 'Would that it were fifteen' mused Dorn 'Do not even think it, my friend' warned Malcador. 'They are lost to us forever'. What the hell did those 2 legions do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 hello baron, the actions of the 2nd and 11th legions are totally unknown, never being revealed by GW. all is known is that these two legions were found, fought in the Great Crusade, and were completely erased prior to the HH. the most popular belief is that they were (1) totally annihlated in battle and erased by the emperor to cover this massive defeat (like the roman legions purged their records) or (2) they turned against the emperor and were destroyed, again erased by the emperor. wolf lord kieran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elenaria Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Good heavens. The intro was absolutely perfect. Marvellous. In all? So very, very different from what I expected. And so amazingly good for it. A wonderful addition to the BL stable. I'm still all dazed, and that's NOT because I stayed up way, way too late to finish it, properly, and not breaking off in the middle of the ending. It was... it was quite amazing. In many ways, I hated what happened in it, the events. But that doesn't make it any less of a great read. I found characters to like and feel with, I found mysteries and revelations (and urgh, a couple of them... like being hit straight in the guts with the full force of an Imperator...) and I found... well, feelings. A good book is suppose to have you feel, whatever the feelings are. And I did. If one reads no other book in the HH series, read this. And that is ALSO because people should know, there is more than bolters blazing and marines saving the day or CSMs showing how good it is to be bad. Blargh. Just read it. Enjoy it. Savour it. ...don't just skip to the good parts. It's worth a read-through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 *taps foot impatiently* Would that it comes out soon here then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I liked the little reference to the Hellstorm Cannon in DOW: Dark Crusade at the end. Now thats tying up loose ends. Then again McNeill is the one who dealt with the fate of the Dies Irae before the HH series was even started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Dorn replies with 'Would that it were fifteen' mused Dorn 'Do not even think it, my friend' warned Malcador. 'They are lost to us forever'. Very interesting... :) I'm definitely going to look into getting this book asap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger-than-Jesus Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Dorn replies with 'Would that it were fifteen' mused Dorn 'Do not even think it, my friend' warned Malcador. 'They are lost to us forever'. Very interesting... :rolleyes: I'm definitely going to look into getting this book asap! Seconded, sounds like it's well worth buying(and I should be able to get €10 off as well-score!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormreaver Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I liked it a lot, the characters where well written and the filling out of the background enough to make any 40k fan wet themselves. Main plus point would be delving into the nature of The Void Dragon and the Necron connection to Mars, and how the Emperor took out the C'Tan on his own in the middle ages and some how got it to Mars :S Bad point I'd say was the origins of the Dark Mechanicum were a little iffy to me, they seemed to fall to Chaos far too easily and it never was properly explained what was in that forbidden vault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I found the revelation that the Emperor manipulated the creation of the mechanicus all those thousands of years ago pior to the great crusade to be rather interesting... now thats some forward thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 The hints that he's been guiding humanity along the narrow path to survival for a very long time, and the suggesting that his whole life is one long self-sacrifice, make me wonder if he forsaw everything- heresy, defeat by Horus, the lot. also, makes me think of Leto- God-Emperor of Dune. while names like lasguns, Navigators, etc clearly predate 40K, the book God-Emperor of Dune dates back to 1981- about time 40k came out. So did the concept of a self-sacrificing God-Emperor come about independantly? (Children of Dune, in 1976, doesn't use the name God-Emperor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Iron Lord Posted Today, 02:14 PM also, makes me think of Leto- God-Emperor of Dune. while names like lasguns, Navigators, etc clearly predate 40K, the book God-Emperor of Dune dates back to 1981- about time 40k came out. So did the concept of a self-sacrificing God-Emperor come about independantly? (Children of Dune, in 1976, doesn't use the name God-Emperor) Actually, the idea of a self-sacrificing God is apparent in many different religions, even those that had no apparent contact with the other, such as the first Biblical prediction of the Messiah, or the Aztec pantheon. GW are just using an idea that has been around for a LONG time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I found the revelation that the Emperor manipulated the creation of the mechanicus all those thousands of years ago pior to the great crusade to be rather interesting... now thats some forward thinking yes indeed.. :lol: talking about some foresight.. I'm close to the end, but I'm liking this one.. Mcneill did a good job on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I've just got to page 160 so far, but it's shaping up to be a fantastic addition to the series, and the details of the mechanicus are really fleshing out the background of 40k as well, there's so much that references forward to things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge The Weak Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 the most popular belief is that they were (1) totally annihlated in battle and erased by the emperor to cover this massive defeat (like the roman legions purged their records) or (2) they turned against the emperor and were destroyed, again erased by the emperor. I really doubt the second one, as the level of influence and thought put into the other books of the series, they wouldn't be able to hide them turning agaisnt the emporor, and they have marines that have been part of the legions since before there full creation, they would of mentioned it at some point. Especially old figures like garro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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