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What colours are you using for the blues on the Invictus Suzerain from August? It's a really interesting tone, especially with the bronze/brass trim (and if you could share your recipe for that too I'd be grateful).

 

I've been unsure about those models myself, having only seen them on the Forge World website, but you have convinced me that they look stunning. Great work.

 

The basing on Ulric and the Deathwatch Marine are fantastic, the tone really helps set the model and they are interesting enough to not be boring but not so busy as to detract from the model itself.

 

Hey Gothical,

Thanks a lot, glad you like my work.

 

Here's the recipes you asked for :-)

 

The Gold recipe:

 

- Undercoat Chaos Black

- Basecoat 2 layers of Scorched Brown

- Layer 1:1 Scorched Brown & Gehenna's Gold (1-2 thinned layers)

- Layer Gehenna's Gold in 2-3 thinned layers

- Shade recesses with 1:1 Scorched Brown & Chaos Black (thinned down to a wash - do a couple of coats rather than one heavy - and ONLY in the recesses!)

- Shade with a sepia shade, such as Gryphonne Sepia

- Retouch as necessary with Gehenna's Gold

- Glaze with thinned Leviathan Purple and Thraka Green on select areas

- Highlight with 1:1 Gehenna's Gold & Runefang Steel

- Final highlight of pure Runefang Steel on the rivets and on the most prominent edges & corners

 

The Blue Armor recipe

- Undercoat Chaos Black

- Basecoat two layers of Regal Blue

- Layer on 2-3 layers of Mordian Blue

- Highlight with Ultramarines Blue

- Highlight with 1:1 Ultramarines Blue & Space Wolves Grey

- Final highlight of pure Space Wolves Grey on the most prominent edges and corners/rivets.

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Hey Gothical,

Thanks a lot, glad you like my work.

 

Here's the recipes you asked for :-)

 

Thank you very much. It is always interesting to hear excellent painters' methods of painting, I would never have thought of using purple and green to glaze the gold areas. You say "select areas", how do you decide which bits to tone? My previous experience with glazing has been an all-over glaze to tie layers together, so I can't quite picture it. I think I can pick out some green in the picture (unless my eyes deceive me), such as on the inner edges of the shield corners, so are you using it as almost a form of subtle shading on non-recessed parts?

 

I'll have to ponder how to shift your blue recipe across to the "new" paint range, and hope I can keep the richness of tone with the slightly muted look. In many ways I do miss the old range for its simplicity, even if it sometimes led to a lot of mixing.

 

I find it interesting that you use no shades/washes on the armour. One method of painting I've seen quite a lot lately is to paint a solid basecoat over your undercoat, even into the recesses, then hit it with an all-over wash to add the shading before moving on to the layering. In this case, I assume you're just incredibly careful with the basecoat to leave the black undercoat showing in the deepest recesses and work up from there?

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Gothical: To have the same paints (just under a different name), I'd suggest you check out the Coat d'Arms and Vallejo Opaque ranges. More specifically, GW Regal Blue is CDA Royal Blue, GW Mordian Blue is Vallejo Game Extra Opaque Heavy Blue, GW Ultramarine Blue is CDA Marine Blue, and GW Space Wolves Grey is CDA Lupin Grey. I personally use Hasslefree Minis (who are based in the UK) to get my CDA paints and get my Vallejo ones on eBay but there are countless other suppliers so look around and see what suits you best. :tu:

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Gothical: To have the same paints (just under a different name), I'd suggest you check out the Coat d'Arms and Vallejo Opaque ranges. More specifically, GW Regal Blue is CDA Royal Blue, GW Mordian Blue is Vallejo Game Extra Opaque Heavy Blue, GW Ultramarine Blue is CDA Marine Blue, and GW Space Wolves Grey is CDA Lupin Grey. I personally use Hasslefree Minis (who are based in the UK) to get my CDA paints and get my Vallejo ones on eBay but there are countless other suppliers so look around and see what suits you best. thumbsup.gif

Thank you for the advice. I've used Hasslefree before and keep forgetting they sell paints, otherwise I have just moved and haven't discovered new hobby suppliers yet. I'll see what I can find whilst trying to see if I can convert it to the newer paint line to give me the most options!

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Hey Gothical,

Thanks a lot, glad you like my work.

 

Here's the recipes you asked for :-)

 

Thank you very much. It is always interesting to hear excellent painters' methods of painting, I would never have thought of using purple and green to glaze the gold areas. You say "select areas", how do you decide which bits to tone? My previous experience with glazing has been an all-over glaze to tie layers together, so I can't quite picture it. I think I can pick out some green in the picture (unless my eyes deceive me), such as on the inner edges of the shield corners, so are you using it as almost a form of subtle shading on non-recessed parts?

 

I'll have to ponder how to shift your blue recipe across to the "new" paint range, and hope I can keep the richness of tone with the slightly muted look. In many ways I do miss the old range for its simplicity, even if it sometimes led to a lot of mixing.

 

I find it interesting that you use no shades/washes on the armour. One method of painting I've seen quite a lot lately is to paint a solid basecoat over your undercoat, even into the recesses, then hit it with an all-over wash to add the shading before moving on to the layering. In this case, I assume you're just incredibly careful with the basecoat to leave the black undercoat showing in the deepest recesses and work up from there?

 

 

Thanks a lot Buddy. Glad you can use it.

 

Yes, on select areas the glazes are applied. I try to use them as very subtle shading, so more in recesses or towards recesses and away from the sharper highlights.

 

I've found that the new paint range and the comparison chart between the two works okay. The key is building up the color from the black undercoat and then slowly adding the layers, allowing for the underlying coats to influence them.

 

I must have forgot about shading for the armor. I always use a shade, and it is often a combination of the primary color (or a variation thereof) and a darker tone. For the Ultramarine, I use a 1:1 mix of Regal Blue and Chaos Black, thin it down to a shade and then very carefully apply it in as many layers as needed to build up the shading and color.

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Thanks a lot Buddy. Glad you can use it.

Yes, on select areas the glazes are applied. I try to use them as very subtle shading, so more in recesses or towards recesses and away from the sharper highlights.

I've found that the new paint range and the comparison chart between the two works okay. The key is building up the color from the black undercoat and then slowly adding the layers, allowing for the underlying coats to influence them.

I must have forgot about shading for the armor. I always use a shade, and it is often a combination of the primary color (or a variation thereof) and a darker tone. For the Ultramarine, I use a 1:1 mix of Regal Blue and Chaos Black, thin it down to a shade and then very carefully apply it in as many layers as needed to build up the shading and color.

Thank you once again. I'm going to test it out once I've got a hold of a couple of new paints, and I'll let you know the results (I won't be able to share pictures unfortunately as it will be for a non-B&C-approved miniature range).

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A though just occurred to me, do you prefer to paint your metals first or your non-metals?

I keep going back and forth on this. I feel that I should paint the armour first, as it requires a lot less steps to correct than the metallics, which makes getting a bit on the metals annoying to fix. However, I have previously found that if you get any metallics on a non-metallic section it can be really hard to touch-up thanks to the brightness of the metallic paint showing through the non-metallic layers. In your experience (if you can remember a time you ever made mistakes msn-wink.gif) what do you feel is the best method?

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Thanks a lot Buddy. Glad you can use it.

Yes, on select areas the glazes are applied. I try to use them as very subtle shading, so more in recesses or towards recesses and away from the sharper highlights.

I've found that the new paint range and the comparison chart between the two works okay. The key is building up the color from the black undercoat and then slowly adding the layers, allowing for the underlying coats to influence them.

I must have forgot about shading for the armor. I always use a shade, and it is often a combination of the primary color (or a variation thereof) and a darker tone. For the Ultramarine, I use a 1:1 mix of Regal Blue and Chaos Black, thin it down to a shade and then very carefully apply it in as many layers as needed to build up the shading and color.

Thank you once again. I'm going to test it out once I've got a hold of a couple of new paints, and I'll let you know the results (I won't be able to share pictures unfortunately as it will be for a non-B&C-approved miniature range).

Edit:

A though just occurred to me, do you prefer to paint your metals first or your non-metals?

I keep going back and forth on this. I feel that I should paint the armour first, as it requires a lot less steps to correct than the metallics, which makes getting a bit on the metals annoying to fix. However, I have previously found that if you get any metallics on a non-metallic section it can be really hard to touch-up thanks to the brightness of the metallic paint showing through the non-metallic layers. In your experience (if you can remember a time you ever made mistakes msn-wink.gif) what do you feel is the best method?

Hey Gothical, thanks for your reply. I didn't get a notification on your update, so I'm very sorry for my late reply!

I tend to always work from a black basecoat, no matter what I'm painting (the only exception being if I paint something bright, say Deathwing, where I start from a white basecoat).

This means that if I were to paint the power armor first, shade it, highlight it to completion and subsequently screw up on the metallics, I'd just repaint the error in black and re-do the power armor steps. Or vice-versa.

Does that makes sense? No matter what color I paint, if I get something of that color on another piece that isn't supposed to be that color, I re-paint it with black, for exactly the reason you state with regards to the metallics sometimes showing through :-) And yes, I do make mistakes ;-)

Cheers,

Vadskær

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Hey Chaps,

 

Still alive, although working around 50-60 hours a week doesn't leave time for painting. I've been sick with the dreaded Man-Flu these last past days, and FINALLY had some time to finish another deathwatch marine.

 

He's from the Deathwatch Kill Team box. I chose to paint him up as an Imperial Fist, as I haven't done one from that chapter before, and also thought the colors would complement the black armor nicely. The silver right arm got quite a bit brighter than the one above, which I'm happy about (built upon a basecoat of Leadbelcher and three thinned coats of Chainmail as a basecoat), which allowed for a much brighter sheen. Also, nailed the blue'ish glaze better with Necron Abyss :-) All in all, very pleased with him! I added some yellow to the shield, to break up all the black. The base is an old one from VoodooWorx, now sold through SecretWeaponMiniatures. I chose it to represent a more Xenos environment, which of course is appropriate for the Deathwatch.

 

Enjoy, and Merry Christmas!

 

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