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Hi, could You help me with creating my list agains tyranids?
my oponents army:

- 5 warriors (adrenal glands +1WS, toxin sacs +1S, scything talons, DEATHSPITTERs)
- 8 genesteales ( feeder tendrils, scything talons)
- 5 swarms
- carnifex (2x twin linker devourer, enhanced senses )

points: 500

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Hi, could You help me with creating my list agains tyranids?
my oponents army:

- 5 warriors (adrenal glands +1WS, toxin sacs +1S, scything talons, DEATHSPITTERs)
- 8 genesteales ( feeder tendrils, scything talons)
- 5 swarms
- carnifex (2x twin linker devourer, enhanced senses )

points: 500


Chaos can be difficult to play in smaller games but I think we can get something to work.
Ideas:
1) Daemon Princes tend to murder Carnifex, because they're faster, hit more often, have an Inv. Save and can't be insta-killed. Luckily a Winged Daemon Prince of some variety is the best Chaos HQ and can be fairly cheap.
2) Plague Marines will be highly resistant to most of their non-rending attacks. Even the TL Devourors will stumble against them thanks to T5 and FnP. Plasmaguns will also be a solid investment against all those targets and the bigger TMCs you're likely to see.
3) Rank and file CSMs with 2 special weapons will be a great way to put bodies on the table and they can hold off most assaults fairly well. Flamers and a Rhino would both be solid buys.

Having said all that, here is what I'd use

HQ: Daemon Prince, Wings = 130 points
TROOP: 6 Plague Marines, 2 Plasma Guns = 168 points
TROOP: 10 CSMs, 2 Flamers, Rhino = 195 points
With the remaining points you could toss a TL Bolter on the Rhino or give your Daemon Prince Mark of Slaanesh so he hits at the same time as the Genestealers and before the Warriors.
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The genestealers shouldn't be too hard to kill, he hasn't given them +1 armour save, so your bolters will ignore their save. Provided they have no cover of course, but my point is once they're dead he can't claim objectives (useless in a KP mission of course, but I'd still kill them first).

Assuming you use Miniguns list (which I would 'cos it's a good list), you should be ok. I imagine the carnifex and the warriors will be your biggest threats, but 'fex should go down to the prince, provided you can keep his support elements away from the fight. Ignore the rippers 'til they get in flamer range, they're not much of a threat and flamers will murder them.

Just remember that you should be able to kill a genestealer for every two marines rapid firing their bolters in to them (if my very, very quick mathhammer is right).

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Minigun's list looks good as always.

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Thanks.
what next... let's say 600-750 points (I'm sure that nids would have hive tyrant probably wings and next fex)

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Another prince and more bodies/upgrades/another rhino in that case. Depending on the exact points.

Edited by Zhukov, 10 April 2009 - 09:25 AM.

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Another prince and more bodies/upgrades/another rhino in that case. Depending on the exact points.


More bodies to be sure, along with adding in some Power Fist Champions to 1-2 of those squads.

After that, you could go with another Daemon Prince, or you could go the Heavy route and start looking at Dakka Predators, Obliterators etc
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