Lysimachus Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Hi all, been working on the current Chapter Master for my DIY, The Emperor’s Blade. Link to IA is in my sig, but to sum up quickly, they’re very religious, hence the character of the guy below. C+C very welcome, especially any suggestions as far as working out what points value would be appropriate! EDITED: simplified rules set Irenaeus, 42nd Master of the Faithful, Wielder of the Emperor’s Blade For more than three and a half centuries, Brother Irenaeus has served as Lord and Commander of the Emperor’s Blade Chapter. His skill in combat, his strategic mastery and his unshakeable devotion to the Imperial Faith have earned him the respect and admiration of countless servants of the Emperor across 17 Sectors. On the battlefield, Brother Irenaeus makes for an imposing sight, his massive Terminator armour covered in litanies and painted in the pure black that is the sole badge of office of the Master of the Faithful. He is armed with the Sword of Septimus, an ancient weapon wielded by the Chapter’s first Commander and believed to be a relic of the early days of the Ultramarine Legion; and with the Shield of Purity, a protective device blessed by the Ecclesiarch of Terra himself. However, it has been said of Irenaeus that the greatest weapons he possesses are his words. His knowledge of and fervent belief in the Imperial Creed, along with his natural talent for oratory, mean that Irenaeus can deliver stirring sermons to all those fighting under his command. Such powerful preaching is able to strengthen the courage and determination of any true son of the Emperor, from brother Astartes to the lowliest Guardsman, on many occasions bringing victory where there should have been only defeat. Irenaeus, Master of the Faithful Irenaeus6544353102+/3++ Unit Composition: 1 (unique) Unit Type: Infantry Wargear: Terminator Armour Master Crafted Relic Blade Storm Shield Special Rules: And They Shall Know No Fear Combat Tactics Independent Character Orbital Bombardment Eternal Warrior Inspiring Presence * * * * * EDIT: Using Gil Galed's excellent Character Generator think points comes out to 190 which is actually quite a bit lower than i'd planned originally! Does anyone think he needs anything else added? i'd be happy to bump him up to 200-225? Lysimachus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 If all you're adding is a special rule, you have to add some shazam. In other words, make a special weapon or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Inspiring Rhetoric is worth 40, minimum. Also, EW under the form of the Adamantine Mantle was 35 points in the 4th Ed codex. Personally, my costs ring him in at 275, which feels about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Under my rules costing (found in my sig) 100pts base Inspiring Rhetoric = i reakon 45 EW 20pts Orbital 15pts Terminator armour 15pts Relic blade +15pts ~Master crafted 5 Storm Shield +10pts 3++ save 20pts as justification this weighs him in at just under calgar. I am however hesitant about Inspiring rhetoric as a 12" power, i think it would be better to have inspiring precense (+1 attack 12" or Liturgies of battle thus squad joined). However he will certainly not be as powerful 1v1 as calgar who will have more attacks hitting at str 10 along with built in bolters and re-rolling all hits and wounds 240pts Imo edit: the rule "all imperial" models will open you up to a world of pain if fighting other imperial armies as by RAW they'd benefit from it to, change it to friendly+allied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Stalker Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Storm Shield +10pts give 3++ save 3++ save 20pts I dont get it - why you list 3++ save twice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 thanks for comments guys! @redcorsair: hmmm, i dunno, i reckon a MC Relic Blade is pretty special? @awesome: think i'd have to disagree there i'm afraid, 275 would put him 10 pts more than calgar in Termi armour (if i remember right?) and there's no way mine is as good as him. As Gil has said, on 1v1 personal basis, he's no match, plus i cant see his Inspiring Rhetoric being better than Calgar's ability to auto pass or fail all the army's morale tests @Gil: cheers for that mate, we're pretty much in the same ball park for cost, i'm thinking about splitting the difference and going 245? edit: the rule "all imperial" models will open you up to a world of pain if fighting other imperial armies as by RAW they'd benefit from it to, change it to friendly+allied ;) that is a very good point, edited to fix! thanks again! Lysimachus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Storm Shield +10pts give 3++ save 3++ save 20pts I dont get it - why you list 3++ save twice ? i was being special clearly :jaw: thanks for that, i adjust my points cost to 220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 4, 2009 Author Share Posted August 4, 2009 Been having another look at this guy and decided that his 12" Liturgies of Battle was probably a bit too unusual to be accepted so i've followed Gil Galed's advice to swap to Inspiring Presence. Points using the Character Generator have come out lower than i was expecting (190 pts) so i'm wondering if i should add anything extra? I was considering an extra attack or possibly a ranged weapon of some kind, maybe a heavy flamer to fit his religious 'feel'? Any suggestions? cheers Lysimachus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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