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[LI01] Legio Imprints - The Dornian Heresy COMPLETE!


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Welcome to the Adeptus Domus section and the discussion thread for artwork for the Dornian Heresy Legio Imprint.

This is the completed gallery of artwork for the first issue.

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Front cover - Nurgle-infected Sanguinius striding out to kill Iron Warriors at the Ultimate Gate
Aerion the Faithful from post 182.

Link to the hi-res!

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Overview - 'The History and Legacy of Dorn's Betrayal'

Badaboom in post 185 - The Chaos corrupted Dorn - COMPLETE.
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Note: This might be usable as the board banner?

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Index Astartes: World Eaters

FireLizard in post 28. A very regimented line of World Eaters standing to attention would show the difference. They still have the Pre-Heresy white and blue trim colourscheme and wield chain axes as their preferred close combat weapons, but otherwise are very proper and buttoned down. COMPLETE.

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Empty Bolter Clip in post 57- A close-up picture of a World Eater displaying the cranial scars they proudly bear from the removal of their aggression chips. COMPLETE.

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Index Astartes: Emperor's Children

Empty Bolter Clip in post 106 has provided an Emperor's Children marine in early mark (very pre-Heresy) power armour.

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IA: Raven Guard

Badaboom - from post 152. Close-up head-shot of a Raven Guard marine. COMPLETE.

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IA: Word Bearers

FireLizard from post 25. A chaplain, the iconic image for the legion - on black armour carved with the holy script of Lorgar. The Crozius bears the lightning bolt - the Emperor's original emblem - as the loyal Emperor's Children won't let anyone else use the Aquila. COMPLETE.

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Empty Bolter Clip from post 45 - Internal full page size picture of Lorgar's final sacrifice - in front of a ruined Imperial basilica, praying on his knees to The Emperor and protected by a ring of his brethren from an endless sea of Plague of Unbelief zombies. COMPLETE.

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Index Astartes: Ultramarines

MadScuzzy in post 164 has produced a battlescene of advanced tech Ultramarines battling the Tau. COMPLETE.

Is it possible to make this a full-page image?

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linkie to the psd on Dom's site.

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IA: White Scars (By Ferrata)

Empty Bolter Clip from post 133. Jaghatai Khan, just before his Fall. (COMPLETE)

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IA: Space Wolves

Badaboom in post 172 has a Bark at the Moon Space Wolf picture - COMPLETE.

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IA: Thousand Sons

FireLizard from post 37. A pre-heresy Thousand Sons sergeant with full psychic hood and force weapon. Note: Pre-Heresy as he still has eye lenses. COMPLETE.

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FireLizard A Thousand Sons Battle Brother, also from post 37. COMPLETE.
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Index Astartes: Blood Angels

Badaboom's flat-mate - what is his name (board name?), Diego? Post 193. COMPLETE.

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Welcome to the AD section, AD's, and have fun!

John.

Edited by Aurelius Rex, 09 April 2010 - 04:15 PM.

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Empty Bolter Clip - Internal full page size picture of Lorgar's final sacrifice - in front of a ruined Imperial basilica, praying on his knees to The Emperor and protected by a ring of his brethren from an endless sea of Plague of Unbelief zombies.


I'm currently in the process of gathering a bunch of reference for the above image, and will update you further as I go along.

Question though, is it ok to use the B&C's "album" feature for posting sketches, and in process/finished work, as long as the album is set to "private"? I prefer the B&C's uploader/album over things like photobucket or imageshack, but I don't want to break the "What happens in the AD, stays in the AD rule".

I should have atleast a few initial sketches by the end of the week...

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I think that using the B&C gallery would be fine. ^_^

Looking forward to seeing the initial sketches.
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Iron Warriors +++ Iron Hands +++ Alpha Legion +++ Dark Angels

Index Astartes: Scions of Dorn

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Morning folks :angry: Well.. it feels that way at least.

I'm currently working on refining proportions for Marines in general right now to nail down a good pattern for me. I'll post that once I get it refined. Needles to say, they don't follow the 6-7 heads-in-height rule of thumb! :lol:

Otherwise, I'm hitting the ground running and should have some preliminary sketches done of both the WB Chaplain and a shot of regimented WE shortly. There will most likely be some scattered concept sketches tossed out there for your viewing pleasure as well of bits and bobs of marine-scenes as well.

Good to be aboard!!
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Ok, my plans. :D
As I mentioned to Aurelius Rex, due to school work, I won't be starting until this weekend (at the earliest).
However, I have managed to get a few ideas sorted out, and I've started a basic sketch for one of them.
My plans - for the overview article, I've got a small Iron Hands iron father/techmarine character. I'm thinking on having him post-heresy. I've got a few concept sketches - I'm just not sure what to do with them...
Other ideas
Ultramarines - some ultramarines in a defended position, either at Istvaan or, post heresy, somewhere in the ultramarines mini empire
And finally, for the EC's - pictures of equipment - e.g bolter, being looked after (techmarine blessing it?). Or, just a master-crafted bolter on a table.

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First off, these are extremely rough sketches.... mostly just to get a general feeling for the composition. After some discussion I will more than likely come back back with a revised/finished sketch before I start the actual painting itself. It's honestly all downhill for the most part once the sketch is done. The only real snag I have encountered so far is the fact that I have no idea of what Lorgar looked like Preheresy! I have not come across any kind of physical description so far, and the only pics I have seen are of him as a DP. I managed to pick up the Horus Heresy: Collected Visions art book in the hopes of finding a pic of him, and while the book will help make sure I get the PH things accurate, I had no such luck on Lorgar himself. So, if anyone has or knows of a physical description of Lorgar feel free to let me know! Now then, on with the sketches!

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My initial idea was to show Lorgar in prayer, surrounded by zombies with what remains of his battle-brothers wading through them. In a subtle way, I am placing the viewer as the Emperor in which Lorgar is currently praying to. I'm thinking of between Lorgar and his marines having nothing but creepy, scratching, clawing hands to give an accurate depiction of height as well as add some wight and horror to piece, and only once you get past the marines do you start to notice the endless hordes of zombies and the rest of their bodies take shape. (so ignore the 1 or 2 full bodied zombies in the image I experimented with, they won't be there in the final) I left a lot of the details in the marines vague while I was waiting for the HH Art book to arrive so I could everything from the armor to the helmets and bolters correct. I have also left some of the details on Lorgar vague as well, like being bald, in the hopes I could add in defining features should there be any. I also plan on spicing up his armor with some engraved text that I have seen used on the IA style image before. This composition also gives the viewer a bit of a focus point (Lorgar) in what would otherwise be an extremely "busy" image.

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The 2nd image is Lorgar in prayer at the base of a large, stone statute of the emperor (top left), while 3 of his marines try and hold back the encroaching horde. The background is currently blank, but more than likely will be filled in by some ruined basilica walls. Again, details on the armor were purposefully left out till I could mkae sure they would be accurate. I have Lorgar's head placed downward in a shameless attempt to hide the lack of a physical description, but i could easily have him looking upwards to the statue. Once again I tried to make sure that Lorgar wouldn't get "lost in the crowd" so to speak by upping his scale a little bit and having him take up a vast majority of the page.

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So, those are my initial ideas, and I'm open to suggestions, feedback, and especially a working description of Lorgar! (Even simply Aurelius' mental image he had while writing the WB fluff) Again, these are simply the rough, initial sketches with only minor details. The final image will be done in full color, acrylic paint on canvas, with full (and hopefully PH-accurate) details. I'm currently thinking the 1st one in the end may be more successful on a couple different levels, but I will leave the final call to Aurelius Rex on that one!

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in tales of the hersey they describe lorgar in the word bearers short story. if you dont have the book I can try and find the discription and put it up for you

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in tales of the hersey they describe lorgar in the word bearers short story. if you dont have the book I can try and find the discription and put it up for you


Oh, please do if it is not that much trouble! :D Otherwise I'll have to make a run to the bookstore...

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Lorgar was as magnificent and terrible to behold as ever. His scalp was completely hairless, and every inch of exposed flesh was caked in gold leaf, so that he gleamed like a statue of living metal. The sockets of his soulful, impossibly intense eyes were blackened with kohl, and Sor Talgron was, as ever, unable to hold the Urizen's gaze for more then a fraction of a second.

He stood a head taller than Sor Talgron, and his slender physique was encased within a magnificent suit of armour. Each overlapping plate was the color of granite and inscribed with the intricate cuneiform of colchis. Over this he wore an opulent robe the exact shade of congealed blood, the fabric heavy with gold stiching.

from the "Scions of the Storm" by Anthony Reynolds in Tales of Hersey

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Sorry for my absence from the thread - I have been hit by a badly cold. That's what I get for writing about the Nurgley Blood Angels, I suppose.

First of all, welcome to everyone, and thanks for your help. :P

As a refinement to the initial post, I wanted to give a link to the previous B&C publication Shall They Know Fear. It was the guide to the 5th edition 40k, and despite my mis-rememberings does include colour artwork for the pictures that accompany the text. I mentioned B&W before, and that is still possible of course - it is more that you don't need to feel constrained to B&W if you feel that colour would add something.

It also shows that it will be in profile format, and that there is scope for both 'widescreen' images that could go across the width of the page, possibly taking up 1/3 of the page area and also profile images taking up a quarter or so of the page area. There will also be some scope for full page splash images like Lorgar's final sacrifice that Joey has been working on - for the busiest images.

The sketches of Lorgar amid a sea of zombies look really exciting, Joey. :rolleyes: Of the two I think I would agree that the first is probably the best, as you get a much better view of Lorgar as the focus. The idea of him praying to the Emperor (facing the reader) is also a great idea. How would his head look if bowed prayer? I believe he was mentioned as kneeling in prayer, but if this makes the relative heights wrong then either forget that or say he is kneeling on a raised platform (pile of bodies?) if anyone asks!

Thanks for the note on Lorgar's pre-Heresy appearance, Neph. :) Feel free to use the description for the later Alt-Heresy Lorgar if you like, EBC, but if you want to make some artistic license changes then that is fine. A lot of things are different, and about five or six thousand years would have passed to get to Lorgar's final sacrifice depicted in the image. The gold skin and kohl'ed eyes might look great, or alternatively unearthly and too much like a statue... if it looks wrong then just leave off the gold.

Having his Word Bearer bodyguard holding back the horde sounds ideal, and beyond that the numberless crowd of zombies pressing in. That sounds perfect, and I'm looking forward to seeing this all take shape. :P

Regards,
John.
Edit: After conferring with Sigismund Himself it looks like the Alpha Legion will take a while longer to complete, so that the Blood Angels IA will be going in instead. I will adjust the initial thread, but if Aerion's cover is focussed on Sanguinius, it makes sense that his legion should be featured in the publication.

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Iron Warriors +++ Iron Hands +++ Alpha Legion +++ Dark Angels

Index Astartes: Scions of Dorn

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Thanks for posting that up, Neph! It's good to know so I wont be causing any kind of heresy (pun intended) with his likeness.

I think I may leave out the gold for the most part simply because I do not think it will read very well for the viewer, especially if they have not read that short story. Perhaps I could work in a little bit in certain sections to imply that he was once covered in gold, but the rigors of battle have wiped it all away for the most part. I probably won't know for sure how it will work until I am actually painting it.

As for the bowing head and kneeling pose, I think that is manageable and I will try and work that into the revised/final sketch to see what you think. Originally I had intended it to look as if he was kneeling and looking up towards the viewer/emperor, but I see how that may or not come across as such. (He's a little too level / straight on to the viewer) If the kneeling repose doesn't work out we could always "justify" the idea of him kneeling by showing how the zombie limbs reach over the top of Lorgar, while they only reach up to the bottom of the shoulder-armor of the marines fighting.... kind of implying a lower, kneeling height. Or it could be said that he's standing on a set of steps leading up to an altar. Hopefully the masses would buy one of those two! :)

Either way, thanks for the input guys! I will take what has been said and do a revised, more detailed sketch over the next few days. I should have something posted by mid of this week and if everything looks good, I will start painting from there.

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Hello, brothers in arts!

I'm posting here and in the "Who's who in the AD" thread to acknowledge the fact that I've been granted this humbling position to help the B&C with my artwork.

I've read everything that's been posted by Aurelius so far and the sketches and whole scope of the project looks very promising already! As I was telling John, I will attach myself to the cover for the moment as I'm dealing with a lot in real life and work to promise more imagery for the interiors. I will do my best to provide something more if time allows, of course.
Fow now, the piece I will be developing is that of a Sanguinius corrupted by Nurgle, assaulting Terra with his Legion. I have a pretty good idea of where I'm going, but I trust you'll all let me know if there's room from improvement and changes.

I'll see about posting a sketch as soon as next week so we keep everything within the December deadline.

See you soon!

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Not really sure if I'm 'allowed' to comment here, but here goes my short piece of feedback.

I prefer your first idea of the Lorgar sketch, Empty Bolter Clip. I think the immediate threat of the zombies that are clawing their way to Lorgar, who has the utmost faith in his sons, is more evocative than the second. Perhaps it seems more full of danger and is more menacing, but I like it more than the second sketch, with the line of bolter-wielding Marines. That said, the second option is still awesome, though I only like that because of the vague presence of the Emperor. Alternatively, you could always combine the two ideas, with Lorgar praying to the Emperor who is indefinitely standing next to his devout son, Lorgar, who is protected by a circle of his blood sworn and finest warriors.

Just some ideas. Hope it helps. :HQ:

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Just a quick update...

I updated Lorgar's pose. I think he definitely reads more as "kneeling in prayer" over the 1st one. I also tried to incorporate some text and i plan on darkening his eyes, per the description.

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Everything else with the hands, fighting marines, and gigantic horde from the 1st one would remain the same.... only Lorgar would be swapped. If everything looks fine I will go ahead and get started on the painting itself.

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Good to see you here, Nic. Everything seems to be coming together, I just have to get time to completing the Blood Angels IA article which is taking much longer than usual to flesh out. If I can just shake this persistent cold... :(

@Darth Potato - welcome over from the Librarium. Of course feel free to comment. Much of the Dornian Heresy has been published in the Librarium, and if you have any comments on the unpublished articles (SW, TS or the WIP BA) I would love to hear them. ^_^

@Joey - Lorgar looks great. The engraved armour is really nice. I noticed he is making the sign of the Aquila - completely appropriate that he should do so as his final sacrifice... I also can't think of any way of representing a thinderbolt and lightning that looks anything like as good. ^_^
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Iron Warriors +++ Iron Hands +++ Alpha Legion +++ Dark Angels

Index Astartes: Scions of Dorn

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Hey folks! I've been a bit quiet, but busy at least :) Work's been a pain in the rear, but hey, pays the bills, right?

Anywho, I've been sketching out some roughs for the World Eaters as well as a Word Bearer Chappy. Take a gander below and let me know any thoughts thus far.

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This one is just a generic WE rough to get a feel for things

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This is a rough of the rank and file WE Legion with a close up of a SGT in the foreground. I'm most likely going to edit the Sgt and have him folding a Chain Axe instead of a Bolter.

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This is a combination WE and WB sketch... whole-body marine is attempting to get down a RaF WE stance, where the close up is a concept for a Chaplain

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This is more along the lines of how I want the Chaplain to feel, but still a rough.


Once I get a little feedback, I'll most likely start in on the finals for at least these two so I can continue on with more!

Tim

PS: I'm still iffy on posting images, so hopefully this works ;) (Edit: it worked!)

Edited by FireLizard, 23 October 2009 - 03:57 AM.


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The sketches look good to me, Tim. :tu: On the World Eaters, I think you are right about swapping out the bolter for the characteristic chainaxe. That, combined with the background of the tightly regimented squad behind to me show that they are very different in temperament from the norm-WE, while the chainaxe makes it clear that there is still a love of close combat in their soul. The idea is that they have to keep a tight rein on their aggressive tendancies as even they are a little afraid of what might happen if they let loose.

The Word Bearers chaplain is taking shape. Something that occurs is that there could be crossover with Joey's closeup of Lorgar which would be good to avoid, but while both would have engraving on the armour, the chaplain's armour would be black. He also has holy script in his skin, which I see he has on the scalp... I take it that all over the skin might make it look pretty weird - if it does, don't worry about restricting it to the scalp. Finally, is it possible to show the chaplain's crozius, as this would firmly establish his role, along with the alternate universe change that the crozius uses a thunderbolt and lightning design rather than the Aquila? There are a few pictures of this design on examples of the mk1 power armour, which I will photograph and post here if you haven't seen it anywhere else... although I think there would be a good deal of artistic license and variation on the design of the crozius anyway. :)

It's great to see this coming together so well. :D

Thanks,
John.

Edit: By the way, feel free to use colour if you all feel it would add to the pieces, as we have scope for both that and B&W / greyscale. Whatever fits best.

Edited by Aurelius Rex, 23 October 2009 - 12:44 PM.

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Iron Warriors +++ Iron Hands +++ Alpha Legion +++ Dark Angels

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I can see the crossover correlation between the image of Lorgar and my Chaplain sketch, So I'll definitely change things up a bit there... perhaps more of a thigh-torso on up framing. As far as the Thunder/Lightning Bolt design, I'm familiar with it, and will see what I can do to have that integral to the Crozius, without making it look Chaos-y :lol:

I've started on the final line work of the WE, in the meantime, and should have that posted in the next few days :)

Tim

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I've been bogged down with real life things myself but thought I should prod the thread with a stick. :)

Has there been any progression since the last updates?
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Still currently in the process of painting... I HAD actually gotten the 1st painting attempt about 90% done, but was completely unhappy with it. I have since scrapped the 1st one and restarted (late in the game, I know) and so far am liking what I have on canvas much better. Lorgar is completely painted, and have moved on to painting the hand surrounding him.

I'm planning on putting in a couple of hours worth of work on it each night, and am expecting if all goes well to get it finished this week! That's the goal anyway. I had expected to already have it done, but I think the recent "restart" will be well worth it in the end.

That's the current status on my end....

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well, since the refinance of my house was finally signed and finished tonight, I should be able to get back to the drawing table again ;) as a textual update goes, I'm fairly confident in my new concepts for the chaplain layout, and I'm doing final pencils on the World Eaters troop mass.

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first 2 are inked and ready for digital color.

I'd be alot more eloquent and wordy here... but it's late, I"m tired and I gotta work tomorrow in like 5 hours! :P

WB Chappy. The facial tattoos just kept stumping me. Soooo... he's got artificer armor that is etched with the words of Lorgar. ;) as well as text literally streaming off both shoulderpads. I tried to make the lightning bolt symbol more prominent.

WE sergeant. the troop mass will come a little later as a separate work, place in the bkg... mmmm... loyalist chain axe....

thoughts, comments?

...bedtime...

Tim

Edited by FireLizard, 10 November 2009 - 03:15 PM.


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@ Tim - The Word Bearer picture is not appearing for me on this PC - just a fault box. I shall check on my home computer tonight. Is anyone else seeing it or is it a broken link?

The World Eater looks very nice. Even in black and white he is obviously a World Eater, and the difference on the chainaxe of having the thunderbolt / lightning rather than the Khorne icon makes it clear that he is not Chaos-aligned. I think that the to attention rank and file troopers will really help to make it clear that they are not berserking loonies in this universe. :tu:

@ Joey - Thanks for the pm about the Lorgar picture. I am really looking forward to seeing it. :P

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Iron Warriors +++ Iron Hands +++ Alpha Legion +++ Dark Angels

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not showing for me either arex. think the link is broken. excellent artwork so far

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FireLizard

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Well sonovagun. And here I was all proud to have uploaded them last night. I'm fairly certain the error's on my part with saving.. it was late :D

okay, web files re-saved and re-posted to my album. I edited and took them out of the earlier post to avoid image-spam, and am reposting them below ;) Sorry for the confusion!!!

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how 'bout now?

Tim