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[LI01] Legio Imprints - The Dornian Heresy COMPLETE!


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Worked up this sketch for the World Eater displaying the scars left from removing his implants...

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Given the nature of the alt-PH WE, I was going for a more peaceful, pure-looking, loyalist veteran marine. Background wise, currently his armor is filling a good chunk of the space, but I think if I eliminate all of his armor (save for his collar), and instead do a gigantic PH-WE Symbol as the background, that it would look pretty cool. Style wise, I could either continue to refine and build up a pencil drawing or do a full fledged painting.

I'm excited for this because portraits are little more my norm...

Let me know what you guys think!


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That looks amazing, Joey! I think it looks really good already. :) On the strength of what you have so far I would be really interested to see this as a refined pencil format.

As to your further ideas, it would be interesting to have the legion's symbol in the picture to fix him as a World Eater - in the background or even on his shoulderpad if that works - as long as it doesn't pull focus too much from the scar. If no space presents itself for the legion symbol then don't force it, the fact that it will be in the World Eaters IA will make it clear who it is about.

If you have a preference for profiles then I will thave a think to see what other ones could be done in this format. :P

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At the moment that gives us a Blood Angels cover and two pictures each for the World Eaters, Word Bearers and Thousand Sons, with Hugh working on an Ultramarine piece and possibly an Iron Hand necron piece for the overview. It leaves the Emperor's Children, Raven Guard, Space Wolf, White Scars and Blood Angel articles needing something, and if anyone wants to have a crack at the other legions not in this Legio Imprint, such as the pivotal image on a corrupted Dorn, the overview is still needing to be filled out. :P I shall fill out the original post and put up ideas ASAP, but if anyone has any ideas or wants to volunteer the next picture then just shout out! :)

Cheers,
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Hey guys, some awesome work coming out. I've been thinking about what images would work well with the White Scars, also looking at where they would work in the IA.

Jaghatai - One of two really, either before his mutation or after. Before would be just after his fall to Slaanesh, so "Though his eyes looked sore from lack of sleep, they glistened with an energy which only emphasised the grin which spread across his face." is what we would be looking at. The key here would be to emphasise the twin gauntlets. Alternatively, Jaghatai after a few centuries with Slaanesh when he had become a daemon-centaur-thing. Again the gauntlets would need to be there.

A White Scar Brother - Probably without his bike, but kitted up to the nines. "such is the decoration and wealth of the armour and weapons which adorns each marine" I imagine a full on marine walking towards the "camera".

A Bike charge - a host of bikes come of the hill, dust cloud etc. If you wanted, it could be linked the Red Highway Massacre, so a trail of refugees in the way.

Lord of the Hunt - Some etheral form moving from a dead WS to another Astartes.

Voice of the Great Khan - Some massive Daemon Prince of Slaanesh-WS style. Not really sure where to go with this one, but it would move the focus away from the Lord of the Hunt who already has a sidebar.

If you want anymore ideas, I'm sure I can think of more.

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hey folks!

Sorry for my silence and absence lately... hosting 30 folks at your house for the past holiday, then housing inlaws for a 5 day stint.. then.. well, ya'll get the picture.

But I'm back and thinking that I may take a crack at the Raven Guard... I've got some interesting mutation ideas for them that coincide with their write-up... Think a Murder of Crows on a hanging tree-type of feel.

I've also got some ideas for a blood angel piece.. but I'd actually want to see more of Nic's cover inked out before I do that. I'd like to keep in theme with what'll be on the cover ;)

Honestly.. the other two that have the inspiration turning right now is a Space Wolves, feral piece and a Smurf. though I'd have to read up on the UMs unless there's something specific that needs to be depicted... a legion apart just seems right to me. even in the current timeline... but that's a different story.

One of the movie posters for The Wolfman kicked my right brain into gear for a 'Wolf piece.

Hmmm... thoughts?

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Good to see you again after the holidays, Tim. I take it the holiday you and Joey were talking about was Thanksgiving – we obviously don’t celebrate it here in Britain, preferring to stuff ourselves with turkey a month later at Christmas, but I hope you both had a great time. ;)

I am interested to see your take on the Raven Guard. When I read your post I got an image of a winged marine in the foreground that has mutated his body / armour to extrude barbaric talon-like lightning claws, and in the background in silhouette are three more Raven Guard in the hanging tree, complete with dangling corpse. That might be too much of a composition to fit into the picture, though!

On the Blood Angels, bear in mind that Nic’s picture is from the Siege of Terra, and that they would continue to change after that. Given the corroded and Chaotic nature of the legion there would be lots of variation and artistic lee-way for you to work with. A feature I would like to see shown for the Blood Angels would be their distinctive daemon-powered jump packs – in the style of Forge-World’s Blight drones – I had the link above. It should certainly be different to the more organic mode of flight used by the Raven Guard. As to pointers to their armour, while it would be theoretically red, the corrosion and sickness the armour is subjected to lend itself to being mottled with brown or green, streaked with gunk leaking from the seams, and with bubbling ‘rust’ patches under the paintwork.

Ultramarines could be tricky as they are not Chaosified, but still need to differentiate themselves from their Norm-‘verse counterparts. So, obviously no Aquilas or The Emperor’s lightning/ thunderbolt icon. The graphic standout I can think of is that they have taken a different technological approach to the Imperium. It is a rejection of the superstition of the Mechanicus and deification of The Emperor, so more refined and deadly, and no need for purity seals. They have also adapted Xenos tech from their former allies, the Tau, so something like railgun technology on a marine or a heavier version on a Rhino chassis might help them stand out from the norm?

Space Wolves – What did you have in mind? Certainly, feel free to wolf the marine out, Tim. I always liked that the Space Wolves would wear pieces of armour as trophies of fallen enemies – a spin on the 13th company wearing replacement traitor armour, although they would be from any legion as much as from loyal Astartes. They also like those neck torcs, and they are constantly anointed in the blood of their enemies, which drips down onto the chest armour plates.
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Hi, yesterday I forgot to introduce myself here as well as in the Who is Who thread, but now I´m here as the polite guy I am (oh, and sorry for the "Aenarion the Faithful" nickname robbery). Taking a look around, I see some very interesting ideas going on here, and I have yet to read the other threads, so it makes me fell anxious to start contributing to all this. Looks like it could be a very good looking and solid thing.

Well, what do you want me to do?

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Sorry for the delay.... I've been a little swamped the last few days. Anywhoo, here's what I have come up with for the World Eater showing his surgical scars.

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Needless to say, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. If everything looks good, I'll see what other project ideas that may spark my interest or feel free to "assign" me one as well!

On a side note, with Christmas, New Years, and a few other projects I need to attend to, my time may be a little bit stretched for the next 2 weeks or so....

... and if I have not already said so, thanks again for giving me the chance to help out! ^_^

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Good to see you again after the holidays, Tim. I take it the holiday you and Joey were talking about was Thanksgiving – we obviously don’t celebrate it here in Britain, preferring to stuff ourselves with turkey a month later at Christmas, but I hope you both had a great time. <_<

I am interested to see your take on the Raven Guard. When I read your post I got an image of a winged marine in the foreground that has mutated his body / armour to extrude barbaric talon-like lightning claws, and in the background in silhouette are three more Raven Guard in the hanging tree, complete with dangling corpse. That might be too much of a composition to fit into the picture, though!

On the Blood Angels, bear in mind that Nic’s picture is from the Siege of Terra, and that they would continue to change after that. Given the corroded and Chaotic nature of the legion there would be lots of variation and artistic lee-way for you to work with. A feature I would like to see shown for the Blood Angels would be their distinctive daemon-powered jump packs – in the style of Forge-World’s Blight drones – I had the link above. It should certainly be different to the more organic mode of flight used by the Raven Guard. As to pointers to their armour, while it would be theoretically red, the corrosion and sickness the armour is subjected to lend itself to being mottled with brown or green, streaked with gunk leaking from the seams, and with bubbling ‘rust’ patches under the paintwork.

Ultramarines could be tricky as they are not Chaosified, but still need to differentiate themselves from their Norm-‘verse counterparts. So, obviously no Aquilas or The Emperor’s lightning/ thunderbolt icon. The graphic standout I can think of is that they have taken a different technological approach to the Imperium. It is a rejection of the superstition of the Mechanicus and deification of The Emperor, so more refined and deadly, and no need for purity seals. They have also adapted Xenos tech from their former allies, the Tau, so something like railgun technology on a marine or a heavier version on a Rhino chassis might help them stand out from the norm?

Space Wolves – What did you have in mind? Certainly, feel free to wolf the marine out, Tim. I always liked that the Space Wolves would wear pieces of armour as trophies of fallen enemies – a spin on the 13th company wearing replacement traitor armour, although they would be from any legion as much as from loyal Astartes. They also like those neck torcs, and they are constantly anointed in the blood of their enemies, which drips down onto the chest armour plates.


Hey, any reason to stuff myself with turkey (especially when I'm the one cooking 42 pounds of it) is a good reason. ;)

Right now I just can't get the Raven Guard outta my head, so I've sketched up some concepts for that piece, and no John, I don't think what you had in mind is too much for the way I'm doing it, and you and I seem to be of like mind with this piece, so all the more reason to complete it!

I may still tackle a Blood Angel then, with regards to your point of them progressing in their fall even further. It may be more of a torso shot, but I think I've got an itch here too...

Hmmm... You're right. A smurf will be tricky, though I love the direction they've gone. back burner this one for me.

soo... Space Wolf that is rightly Chaos instead of all of us pretending they aren't. right ;) Seriously though, this one is more of a floating thought and something I've doodled on, but nothing to strike a need to put pen to paper seriously.

Raven Guard will most likely come first for me, followed by a Blood Angel close behind. Let me see what I can post up for those two :)

Tim

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Good to see you, Diego (Badaboom) and welcome to the Dornian Heresy / Legio Imprint project. :) I will have to thoroughly review what we have, what we need and who is working on what for the first thread. I am also trying to get a new target for publication. Currently some of the articles (WE, WB and TS) have two pieces of accompanying artwork, but some have none at the moment... it may be worth considering making sure there is at least one piece for each article if it will cause time problems to have two in future.

@Diego - You have mentioned that Dorn is your favourite Primarch, so how would you like to start up with an image of the corrupted (Chaos Undivided) Rogal Dorn for the overview piece? After all, we can't have a Dornian Heresy publication without showing the man himself, can we? :)

@Joey - That World Eater looks really good. :tu: I think that it would be ideal alongside the piece of text that describes their cranial scars and the deep significance they have for the Legion. I shall have a look at the images that we still need and contact you ASAP about the next one... but obviously shout out if you have any preferences.

@Tim - I will note down what you are interested in (Primarily RG and BA) for the initial post, and pencil you in for a UM and a tentative for the SW for now... Can't wait to see where you go with these ideas!

More soon, and thanks to you all for your work on this project, it is much appreciated!

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Btw, once I have something done, should I just use the "insert image" option or something else?

Regarding Al-Dorn, how should he look like? I imagine his face as a dark mix between Ed Harris and Gerald Butler, but I don´t know if the color schemes of the Al-Traitor legions have changed much. Also, Rogal Dorn has been always shown as weilding a power sword and a bolt pistol, though the Fist of Dorn seems quite interesting too, how do you imagine the Arch_Betrayer?

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You can load the image up to your gallery space here at the B&C and then just use the "image link" info in between the proper tags:

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Regarding Al-Dorn, how should he look like? I imagine his face as a dark mix between Ed Harris and Gerald Butler, but I don´t know if the color schemes of the Al-Traitor legions have changed much. Also, Rogal Dorn has been always shown as weilding a power sword and a bolt pistol, though the Fist of Dorn seems quite interesting too, how do you imagine the Arch_Betrayer?

Regarding colorschemes for the Imperial Fists, after Dorn died at the end of the Heresy Sigismund changed the livery to black and their name to the Black Legion (Not Black Templars!), but a pic of corrupted Dorn would still use the standard yellow armour. Chaos alignment seems to always attract spikes for some reason, so feel free to add them to his armour if you like. :lol:

As Dorn was effectively Chaos Undivided, I had thought that the legion symbol, at least during the Heresy, would be the fist icon on top of the eight-pointed 'star' of Chaos. The border circle could be dropped or kept depending on what looks best.

If you have a look in mind that invokes Butler / Harris then I say go with it. :) Dorn was a very noble individual before his fall and posession - the overview article 'The History and Legacy of Dorn's Betrayal' (Link below) should give the details of this - but has since been driven insane.

As to his weaponry, I would think that he would be able to choose any weapons he wanted for a particular battle, and so go what feels best. I am happy to leave it to you, although as you mention a big powerfist would be pretty characterful!

Looking forward to how this progresses. <_<
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Regarding Al-Dorn, how should he look like? I imagine his face as a dark mix between Ed Harris and Gerald Butler, but I don´t know if the color schemes of the Al-Traitor legions have changed much. Also, Rogal Dorn has been always shown as weilding a power sword and a bolt pistol, though the Fist of Dorn seems quite interesting too, how do you imagine the Arch_Betrayer?

Regarding colorschemes for the Imperial Fists, after Dorn died at the end of the Heresy Sigismund changed the livery to black and their name to the Black Legion (Not Black Templars!), but a pic of corrupted Dorn would still use the standard yellow armour. Chaos alignment seems to always attract spikes for some reason, so feel free to add them to his armour if you like. :lol:

As Dorn was effectively Chaos Undivided, I had thought that the legion symbol, at least during the Heresy, would be the fist icon on top of the eight-pointed 'star' of Chaos. The border circle could be dropped or kept depending on what looks best.

If you have a look in mind that invokes Butler / Harris then I say go with it. :) Dorn was a very noble individual before his fall and posession - the overview article 'The History and Legacy of Dorn's Betrayal' (Link below) should give the details of this - but has since been driven insane.

As to his weaponry, I would think that he would be able to choose any weapons he wanted for a particular battle, and so go what feels best. I am happy to leave it to you, although as you mention a big powerfist would be pretty characterful!

Looking forward to how this progresses. <_<



What about having the fist halo'd by the Star of Chaos? Nothing says the alt-verse Chaos star has to have 8 points. It could only show 5 maybe.

Or you could have it holding the star the way the Iron Lords hold the Iron Halo in their fist emblem.

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What about having the fist halo'd by the Star of Chaos? Nothing says the alt-verse Chaos star has to have 8 points. It could only show 5 maybe.

Or you could have it holding the star the way the Iron Lords hold the Iron Halo in their fist emblem.

As far as I can tell the Star of Chaos has eight points in both the Warhammer and 40K incarnations, indicating to me that it is intrinsic to Chaos rather than something that the Alt-Heresy would be able to change.

As to the fist gripping the Chaos star, I think that I had considered that as one of the options when I was writing the overview - it was more than 18 months ago - but couldn't get it to work as a design. I think that in the end I thought that the fist at the centre of the radiating arrows was the one I felt worked best, but that is not to say that it isn't one of many variants used by the legion... they are Chaotic, after all! :tu:
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Hi guys,
I'm really sorry I haven't been on much, but things are a little problematic right now - it seems that just after I finish one essay or project, I get two more to do -_-
On top of that, my tools having been about as useful as a chocolate teapot. My scanner and camera in particular, both breaking down repeatedly.
This has however, given me plenty of time to re-think and redo my work.
I've been doing pre-heresy Ultras, and an image of a post-heresy Iron Hand (with all the 'necronised' goodness :P ). I am considering (if its ok with you guys) doing a post-heresy ultramarine image aswell - tau and ultramarine tech sounds too good to resist!
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The star of Chaos has eight points. Read some Elric books for the answer as to why that is. :)

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Hi guys. Haven´t had much time to work on anything this Xmas, but I´ve managed to paint a quick sketch of a possible Rogal Dorn as Champion of Chaos. I´ve yet to work a lot on it, but it´s a good stage to apply suggestions. I´m not sure about the TDA, but we´re all used to see Horus wearing it in his corrupted state, looks more menacing and massive, so it was the first option. Let me know what you think and I´ll be happy to change whatever doesn´t looks right as I´m working on it.

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Wow :) A quick sketch? I don't think I could handle the brilliance of a full sketch then.

Don't know how to really add anything to it. It seems near perfect, bar the cleaning up or sharpening of the chest area's script.

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I second Sig's comments above! Massively impressive! ;) I think the TDA looks perfect for the pure imposing thuggery it portrays.

I think you have the look spot-on so far, and am perfectly happy to leave you to go with your instincts on any refinements you think it needs. :unsure:
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Things have settled down a bit here as well, and I'm eager to start working again!

Currently I'm looking at doing something for the Emperor's Children Articles, and I think the image of the EC in very early mark armor would fit my style nicely. (Unless of course it is on someone else's "to do" list or if Aurelius has a different project in mind) I'm planning on something similar to a "blanche" piece in terms of a lone, fully detailed figure, on a limited flat color background. I'm thinking either MK2 or MK3 power armor as I think MK1 would be waaay too obsolete by that timeline.... atleast imo.

Let me know what you guys think and I'll get started on some sketches....


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Things have settled down a bit here as well, and I'm eager to start working again!

Currently I'm looking at doing something for the Emperor's Children Articles, and I think the image of the EC in very early mark armor would fit my style nicely. (Unless of course it is on someone else's "to do" list or if Aurelius has a different project in mind) I'm planning on something similar to a "blanche" piece in terms of a lone, fully detailed figure, on a limited flat color background. I'm thinking either MK2 or MK3 power armor as I think MK1 would be waaay too obsolete by that timeline.... atleast imo.

Let me know what you guys think and I'll get started on some sketches....

Sounds good EBC. I've always liked Blanche's style.

John, I'm still awaiting a PM on the colour schemes ;)

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Hi guys,
I'm really sorry I haven't been on much, but things are a little problematic right now - it seems that just after I finish one essay or project, I get two more to do :)
On top of that, my tools having been about as useful as a chocolate teapot. My scanner and camera in particular, both breaking down repeatedly.
This has however, given me plenty of time to re-think and redo my work.
I've been doing pre-heresy Ultras, and an image of a post-heresy Iron Hand (with all the 'necronised' goodness ;) ). I am considering (if its ok with you guys) doing a post-heresy ultramarine image aswell - tau and ultramarine tech sounds too good to resist!

Hi there, Hugh, good to hear from you.

Sorry to hear that your scanner equipment is playing up. I have updated the initial master-post with the most up to date information and collected images, as well as assigning you the Necronised Iron Hands picture to go in the Overview and Ultramarines battle scene... Were you originally going to do a Heresy Era Istvaan battle-scene? If you want to go for a later Tau-teched Ultramarine picture it is possible, but Tim is also down to do something similar.

Given your workload at school, as well as technical problems, do you have a likely completion date for these pictures?


@Joey - The idea for the EC was either / or a marine in early mark armour (with Aquilas, of course) or a scene of a squadron of jetbikes. Neither has been taken up until now, so I will assign you the early mark armour figure - looking forward to seeing it take shape! ;)

On the writing side of things, I have finally finished (barring feedback changes) the Blood Angels article, and I have contacted OMG, who is dealing with the e-publishing side of things to see when we can get a deadline for the release.
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John take a look at this thread, that's a guy you really ought to talk to...

More of his stuff here

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Hi Chris, great to hear from you. How are things going, and has your ability to access the net improved at all?

Thanks for pointing that artist out. I will definitely approach the guy and see if he is willing to join us here.
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No real improvement in my condition(s) but some fairly decent steps forward in managing the problems. I'm back to lurking at the moment, we'll see how the eyes handle posting in the near future...