Techmarine Data007 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I mean, it's not like we can't go and take some of our spare bits and try out the various schemes by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onipunk Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Some of us don't have the money or time to test out each scheme. I'm not being picky, but I'm just a bit cheesed off that we saw some amazing preview images, then, utter silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 I need to reiterate ... I run my own company and have two daughters and a wife, all of which come before my hobby time. Then I have hobby time which comes before programming time. So me doing work on programming projects is at the bottom of the pile. @ Dark Link : Sorry to say, the project either lives or dies when I say it does ... no one else :) Truth be told there has been progress on the project ... that's why you can see things like this Thats the full set of Mk4 armour generated by wargear, however it is a long way from public use yet. Patience mon ami ... It will be ready when its ready ... and not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I need to reiterate ... I run my own company and have two daughters and a wife, all of which come before my hobby time. Then I have hobby time which comes before programming time. So me doing work on programming projects is at the bottom of the pile. @ Dark Link : Sorry to say, the project either lives or dies when I say it does ... no one else :) Truth be told there has been progress on the project ... that's why you can see things like this Thats the full set of Mk4 armour generated by wargear, however it is a long way from public use yet. Patience mon ami ... It will be ready when its ready ... and not before. Glad to hear you're doing well then, and not to worry, I'm sure we can all be patient. EDIT: Oh yeah, and that looks really good too. Though I never really understood why so many people loved the Mark Four armor. I always preferred Mark Seven and Eight myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Not to sound arrogant and almighty and stuff, but Argos' and I and all those who have helped on the painter are doing it out of goodwill to all, at our own leisure time. Argos' original vision was just to have a good enough painter that all of us can benefit from, and he has come up with an amazing engine to achieve this... and achieve this we technically already have. The wargear is just an expansion to it, rather than the program itself, and truth be told, it probably takes more work to make it good than the basic program. As of right now, we do have a number of painters already in service, and their basic goals have been met, which have far exceeded anything out there (sans the 3d painter in DOW2... which still uses our painter images). We do intend to come up with more stuff... and there are loads of things in the pipeline, but we do have our lives, and other priorities as well... so we will do what we can, when we can. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consul of Scorpions Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Oh wow, that's awesome, you guys are gods in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Oh wow, that's awesome, you guys are gods in my eyes. The B&C wouldn't be the same without their hard work, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I don't think we want or deserve such praise. All we want is for BnC to be the best forum out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Well you're achieving that so far, especially in the Power Armoured division. Â Anyway, take your time and get it finished when you feel is best ;) The picky guys can easily wait for their fancy gear for now, I'm just greatful we have something to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I don't think we want or deserve such praise. All we want is for BnC to be the best forum out there. Well, it wouldn't be the same. For one we wouldn't have any Space Marine painters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I don't think we want or deserve such praise. All we want is for BnC to be the best forum out there. Heh, humility well done. I think that deserves more praise than the painter itself, but then again I don't spend as much time as you guys do working on it, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onipunk Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 I apologise for being so rash, and I do appreciate the hard work you guys are putting in to make this the most friendly and reputable PA community I've ever seen. Â @Argos: I do apologise. I recently started a programming course in school, and until then, never realised just how long it takes to write a segment of code, even for a simple program never mind one as complex as this. Â @Madscuzzy: I guess I kind of made that statement to try and kickstart the mods into action, as we hadn't heard anything for over five months. I'll never act like that again. How does the old mantra go? Â "Patience is a virtue, Find it if you can. Always in a woman, Never in a rabid fan." Â At least, I think that's it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LardO'Blood Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Out of curiosity, is all the wargear artwork done and just needs to be programmed? Or are you still doing artwork? Is there a list of all the wargear for the next version? I really want to find out if I can take more or less anything in the space marine armory (No more photo shopping crozius arcanum or lightning claws). Are there plans for terminator wargear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 The dream would be to have everything in the armoury available as wargear, although whether that is feasible remains to be seen. There has been a lot of artwork already done for the painter, and for the others, but there is still a lot more to go to encompass the entire range. Â As revealed, for the PA versions, we have most of the basic weaponary and some special weapons on the way. The different mks will be available too, sans mk1. Â As for the termi side, lightning claws have been made. As to whether the wargear add-on will be available... ahem... only time will tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 We have lots of artwork done ... to be honest madscuzzy went all out and did a lot of really good stuff for the painters and wargear. The current holding point is due to me, I am rewriting the wargear application from the ground up to do it "right" this time. It kind of grew out of control last time and although on the surface looked ok, actually it had grown incredibly entangled internally. I have this time written the basic painter to be "wargear" aware from the beginning (rather than bolted on afterwards) and wargear is working as can be seen here: - The problem is that that image was generated by these codes which I had to create MANUALLY! bpe=7B3370&bpj=CC9621&bp=7B3370&bpc=7B3370&hdt=7B3370&hdm=7B3370&hdl=7B3370&ey=44FF00&er=F7B628&pip=454545&nk=7B3370&ch=7B3370&eg=F7B628&sk=F7B628&abs=7B3370&bt=7B3370&cod=FFFFFF &ull=7B3370&lk=7B3370&lll=7B3370&lft=7B3370&url=FFFFFF&rk=FFFFFF&lrl=FFFFFF&rft=FFFFFF&slt=FFFFFF&sli=FFFFFF&srt=7B3370&sri=7B3370&ula=FFFFFF&lel=FFFFFF&lla=FFFFFF&lw=FFFFFF&lh=FFFFFF&ura=7B3370 &rel=7B3370&rla=7B3370&rw=7B3370&rh=7B3370&gr=52545E&rb=52545E&nkl=FFFFFF&chestl=FFFFFF&abdl=FFFFFF&hdtl=FFFFFF&hdml=FFFFFF&hdll=FFFFFF&btl=FFFFFF&codl=7B3370&erl=F7B628&bpl=FFFFFF &bpjl=CC9621&bpel=FFFFFF&bpcl=FFFFFF&abdc=333332&bg=FFFFFF&grid=TRUE&f25010=1&f21010=1&f05010=1&f09010=1&f15010=1&f17010=1&f18000=0&f1a010=1&f05011=F7B628&f09011=F7B628&f17011=F7B628 &f15011=F7B628&f17012=F7B628&f17013=F7B628&f17014=F7B628&f17015=F7B628&f17016=F7B628&f15012=F7B628 Wargear this time round has a unique code which represents each piece. Broken down into: - Height (to solve overlap issues) Location (also for overlapping issues) Number of subsections (for painting complex wargear in multiple colours) and finally a unique code tagged onto the end allowing over a thousand different wargear items per area. So the code "f25010" represents all the above information while "f25011=FFFFFF" would tell the first paintable area of that item to be coloured white and so on (up to 15 different paintable areas per item). So with each item able to be painted multiple different colours I need to create the wargear app to allow each item to be painted individually ... and then placed on the figure when finished. As you can imagine that's many times more complex than the original wargear app ... requiring a huge amount of effort. Then add in the fact I own and run my own company, have two children and a lovely wife and want some playing time for the hobby ... I am sure you can see the problem is one of time. Once the wargear interface has been written ... I can then work my way through programming each wargear item to work ... another long process another time issue. However enough of the problems ... progress is slow .. but does actually happen and the layout of the new wargear app has been discussed with the alpha test team to gather ideas. Oh just for your amusement ... f25010 is actually the Mk4 shoulderpad :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Progress is progress, so keep at it lads, you've got all the time in the world to get it right :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 Just for the laugh I turned off f25010 and you can now see the model without it: - As you can see the new wargear controls built into the rendering engine give me complete control over each section of the model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argos Posted November 2, 2010 Author Share Posted November 2, 2010 And for someone who asked about Wargear coming ... here is a SMALL selection we have in the queue As you can see ... Madscuzzy was busy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consul of Scorpions Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I always wondered if you were rendering the entire arm beneath each pauldron. Â And holy crap, an awesome ninja appears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LardO'Blood Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Two words, *expletive I should not say out loud* awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Dear goodness... That is simply great. So... It's an Apothecary Librarian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Dear goodness... That is simply great.So... It's an Apothecary Librarian? Â Get with the times, that's totally a Libothecary. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scathainn Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Sweet Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consul of Scorpions Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Chaplain too, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Chaplain too, I think. No, I don't think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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