Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millennium Online

[THQInsider]

The first trailer and screens for the upcoming MMO have appeared at last :)

 

Edited the links to the ones on THQ.com, should run faster now.

 

There'll be more info on the game coming out of E3!

[Drac0]

Ty for the link, but it took ages to load, here's a youtube link for those with slower connection

 

[noodlenerd]

I wonder how they can include both astartes and guardsmen as races and classes without a huge gap in between? after all, astartes would own at least 10 guardsmen in combat, easily.

[Captain Nightengel]

They might make them something like karskin....With regular guardsmen being npcs. But yea there would be a significant gap...lore wise

[Sawtooth]

I wonder how they can include both astartes and guardsmen as races and classes without a huge gap in between? after all, astartes would own at least 10 guardsmen in combat, easily.

 

Maybe they'll make Guardsmen like a 'pet' class. You control the officer and summon (gravchute in) a squad.

 

I wonder what kind of character progression they will have. It would be neat if you started as a marine scout and moved up the ranks. Maybe they'll have ordinary humans start as Guardsmen and work their way up to being Inquisitors. The Marines focus on brute force, the Inquisitors sneak around like rogues. Ah, just wild speculation.

[Brother Kovash]

I can't wait for this game to come out. Everyone at my LGS is psyched to play. One point of advice, don't go crazy on the speculation just yet. For all we know, we could only get a handful of races to start with.

[Sawtooth]

There's an interview they just posted over at mmorpg.com. Not a whole lot of information, it's only about 3 minutes long. There is a Khorne Berzerker at the end...

 

Linky

[Vampyrer0me0]

Were the grey armoured marines in the trailer space wolves? Looked like it but i couldnt be sure. Hope they give you a couple of chapters to chose from as races. Maybe similar to deathwatch?

[Sawtooth]

I think they're Black Templars. All the Marines in the trailer seem to be part of the same Chapter. I think the grey appearance is just a trick of the lighting, because they're adorned with Templar iconography. Some of them have gold or red details but I think that's just to signify more advanced members. Of course they could be a different Chapter with very similar colors and symbols.

 

All the Chaos Marines appear to be World Eaters.

[Branek Icefang]

It would be cool if when a Marine dies, you can get a big long event to be interred into a Dreadnought.... be ridiculous for gameplay but would be fun as all hell.

[Whit]

Yeah, I wouldn't look to deep into the chapters and legions seen in the trailer. I somehow doubt that they'll limit the scope to BT and Berzerkers. Also, on the website they mention siding with Order or Destruction. So we're probably looking at the Warhammer Online system for factions.

 

Oh well, I guess more then 2 sides in the PvP conflict could have been tough to balance, I just hope we don't see Space Marines and Eldar fighting side by side throughout the game. Although, the Eldar may not even be.

 

One can hope.

[Shotbreak]

It's unusual but not uncommon to have 2+ races fighting together against a common enemy. Pedro Kantor and the Eldar against the Orks for a fleeting moment, Ultramarines and Tau against the Tyranids or Chaos (can't remember which) and even during DoW winter assault with the Imperial Guard and Eldar and even the Orks and Chaos (they even had order and destruction goin in there ) sort of working together so it won't be as big an issue to have Order and Destruction, it's only if they have a full blown Alliance going on, then that would be the time to panic <_<

[Sawtooth]

I have heard speculation that there may be a third, npc faction participating. Apparently that Aion game has such a system. I don't know how well it works, and at this point it's just wild speculation. Still, mass armies of Tyranids or Necrons attacking all sides could be interesting.

[Brother Mojonir]

I know this is very early days but in the video I only saw World Eaters and Black Templars, and it got me thinking.

We all know every chapter is around 1000 marines strong at full strength EXCEPT for the Black Templars and of course traitor legions who are still well, legions. A modern popular MMO is going to have thousands of players, so if say Blood Angels were available you will invariably end up with more than a thousand Blood Angels in the game breaking the IP. Not an issue with the BT.

[Sawtooth]

I know this is very early days but in the video I only saw World Eaters and Black Templars, and it got me thinking.

We all know every chapter is around 1000 marines strong at full strength EXCEPT for the Black Templars and of course traitor legions who are still well, legions. A modern popular MMO is going to have thousands of players, so if say Blood Angels were available you will invariably end up with more than a thousand Blood Angels in the game breaking the IP. Not an issue with the BT.

 

I've been thinking that as well. I've also been thinking that the Black Templars and World Eaters are both lacking psykers. Perhaps this signifies a class direction they're taking, leaving the psykers to normal humans, Eldar, and Orks.

[Pigeons]

I know this is very early days but in the video I only saw World Eaters and Black Templars, and it got me thinking.

We all know every chapter is around 1000 marines strong at full strength EXCEPT for the Black Templars and of course traitor legions who are still well, legions. A modern popular MMO is going to have thousands of players, so if say Blood Angels were available you will invariably end up with more than a thousand Blood Angels in the game breaking the IP. Not an issue with the BT.

 

 

 

not exactly. 10 thousand years of warfare with no way to make new marines means most of the traitor legions are probably WELL below legion strength at this point.

 

 

 

anyway, i don't even understand why you'd only have black templars. just allow color schemes like from DOW and you can have any chapter you want. put in pre-set schemes for all the loyalist legions, most of the 2nd founding chapters and a couple other popular ones, then allow players to create their own schemes for the less fleshed out chapters. simple. there doesn't have to be any difference in the gameplay.

 

 

 

i mean does anyone really think they'd get different armies for each chapter, who all PLAY differently? no way. far too complicated. space wolves will just be gray marines, and etc. so the painter works fine.

[Brother Roga]

QUOTE (Brother Mojonir @ Jul 12 2010, 02:02 AM)

I know this is very early days but in the video I only saw World Eaters and Black Templars, and it got me thinking.

We all know every chapter is around 1000 marines strong at full strength EXCEPT for the Black Templars and of course traitor legions who are still well, legions. A modern popular MMO is going to have thousands of players, so if say Blood Angels were available you will invariably end up with more than a thousand Blood Angels in the game breaking the IP. Not an issue with the BT.

 

I believe that because of the First Founding Chapters are going to be filled up anyway, you would probably be introduced to a Succesor Chapter instead, giving you many choises. And, probably, you might be given the chance of creating your own Succesor Chapter. On the Chaotic side, however, for example, after the Horus Heresy, the World Eaters held themselves together for a small amount of time before dispersing into mere warbands, nowhere near the size of a Chaos Space Marine Legio! So, you would be a member of a warband that you have created yourself. People would most likely automatically join if there are no other warbands available. This could work with the other Legions as well, given their chaotic tendencies. Some may feel that to gain the favour of the gods, they must separate themselves from the unbelievers(and i dont mean the Imperial kind) and carve out their own little warband that will wreak havoc on the Imperium! These warbands could grow to the size of a true Space Marine Chapter, given enough players and success in plundering. I believe that you would be able to carve your own path, be you Imperial or Chaos.

 

=()= Gracious Emperor of Mankind, hallowed be thy majesty, your bright light everlasting, vouchsafe your servant in this hour of peril. =()=

[Fire Lord Captain]

I imagine that the different chapters will be represented by different 'guilds' much like in WoW where each guild designs its own tabard. In this case it might be design your own badge and colour of the armour. Hopefully during the creation of these 'guilds' words like fluffy, pink and kiitens would be put in the naughty word category..

[Shotbreak]

QUOTE (Brother Mojonir @ Jul 12 2010, 02:02 AM)

I know this is very early days but in the video I only saw World Eaters and Black Templars, and it got me thinking.

We all know every chapter is around 1000 marines strong at full strength EXCEPT for the Black Templars and of course traitor legions who are still well, legions. A modern popular MMO is going to have thousands of players, so if say Blood Angels were available you will invariably end up with more than a thousand Blood Angels in the game breaking the IP. Not an issue with the BT.

 

I believe that because of the First Founding Chapters are going to be filled up anyway, you would probably be introduced to a Succesor Chapter instead, giving you many choises. And, probably, you might be given the chance of creating your own Succesor Chapter. On the Chaotic side, however, for example, after the Horus Heresy, the World Eaters held themselves together for a small amount of time before dispersing into mere warbands, nowhere near the size of a Chaos Space Marine Legio! So, you would be a member of a warband that you have created yourself. People would most likely automatically join if there are no other warbands available. This could work with the other Legions as well, given their chaotic tendencies. Some may feel that to gain the favour of the gods, they must separate themselves from the unbelievers(and i dont mean the Imperial kind) and carve out their own little warband that will wreak havoc on the Imperium! These warbands could grow to the size of a true Space Marine Chapter, given enough players and success in plundering. I believe that you would be able to carve your own path, be you Imperial or Chaos.

 

=()= Gracious Emperor of Mankind, hallowed be thy majesty, your bright light everlasting, vouchsafe your servant in this hour of peril. =()=

 

 

Most MMO's don't have guilds with over a thousand members, most don't even go past 200 so they may have the chapters with them, but they may seperate the 1000 strong chapter into companies, so as to not make the story go too crazy as to having 20 or more fully battle ready chapters fighting in one system/planet, since that would be too strong of a military presence for the Imperium to sacrifice in their time. I'd rather have 40-100 (that might be too much too!!) companies then even 20 chapters fighting for the Imperium in this game. Warbands works though but legions would be ridiculous. And an Eldar Craftworld taking part in this would be just as crazy. Orks works too

[Artein]

During the middle of the 38th millennium, Angron and fifty thousand Khorne Berzerkers slaughtered their way through Imperial space for over two centuries.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Angron#The_Dominion_of_Fire

 

They do have enough numbers.

[Brother_Sigurd]

I have heard speculation that there may be a third, npc faction participating. Apparently that Aion game has such a system. I don't know how well it works, and at this point it's just wild speculation. Still, mass armies of Tyranids or Necrons attacking all sides could be interesting.

 

I think it was announced Tyranids will be the npc faction. Don't quote me on that. Hopefully we get some info out of Gamesday about it.

[Vor]

Don't forget there will most likely be different servers. So all the players won't be on the same one. There could be thirty BA chapters on 30 different servers.

[Supreme Overlord]

This looks good...I hope it doesn't do what the WHFB MMO did and burn out and lose players after 3 months of complete awesomeness...

[Shadey]

anyway, i don't even understand why you'd only have black templars. just allow color schemes like from DOW and you can have any chapter you want. put in pre-set schemes for all the loyalist legions, most of the 2nd founding chapters and a couple other popular ones, then allow players to create their own schemes for the less fleshed out chapters. simple. there doesn't have to be any difference in the gameplay.

 

i mean does anyone really think they'd get different armies for each chapter, who all PLAY differently? no way. far too complicated. space wolves will just be gray marines, and etc. so the painter works fine.

 

I would die for this feature. I think there should be more customization that DoW but it would be good enough I guess. Like the BnC marine painter would be sweet.

 

Then again, someone will probably make a pretty marine just to be an a***

 

They could maybe balance non marines by making guardsmen a squad leader of npcs.

[SterbTemplar]

I must say that for story-purposes I think It would be easier to stick to one chapter. Im not saying it must be Black Templars (Even though I hope so since I play them and freakin love them) but at least one chapter which the story is revolving around. Just look at the Dawn of war games. I personally dont like the Blood Ravens but Id rather play the game as them and appreciate a story about them and their characters instead of creating a own chapter with no characters nor story.

 

I hope that they would let you choose from maybe 3-4 different chapters which the story revolves around. Like Ultras, Wolves, Blood Angels and Black Templars or whatever. But I have a feeling that its not likely and the developers stick to one only.