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Macro setting didn't work too well but these are just interim images There will be others later. To reinforce the ankle joint I applied arc segments for the spacer slides to ride on. This model will be of considerable mass, I figure about 7 kilo, so these shanks must be protected from torsion effects.


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You know after I installed those slides I had an epiphany, What if I cut cogs in the slides and used a toothed gear to actuate the semicircle, how would that be? I'll have to redesign the slides a bit but it would make perfect sense to have that as the mechanism.

Meanwhile todays run not as much as I had hoped for but I had to repair the porch.
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You'll have to imagine the rest but the picture height isn't as high as the shoulder mounted lascannons

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Very cool, its certainly coming along.
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I wasn't going to post this until I rectified the problem but then I thought, "Hey this is a good thing to demonstrate that even the Blackadder isn't infallible :P and has to go back to the drawing board now and again."

Seems I made the shanks too long by about an inch. measuring for the upper leg somehow the proportions just didn't look right so I remeasured and sure enough I managed to add an extra inch to the overall height.

So what's an inch you may say but to me it will change the look of the finished model from a hulking looming menace to a spindle shanked travesty ergo I shall be cutting the lower legs in half and removing the offending inch but not yet as I may have to do other things as well so might as well do all at once.


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Okay Ladies and Germs, this is what separates the Blackadder from relatively sane individuals. To borrow a phrase from another Charlton Heston movie, "The Agony and the Ecstasy"; The wine is sour, so throw it out!

I'm not happy with the look. The legs are too thin. So I'm bringing out my second biggest Xacto blade and rending judgment on inferior work.

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Who was taking the pictures? :blink:
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Me? Why do you ask?

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I take it you were behind the camera (and it's on auto)? Both of your hands were in the pictures, which kinda threw me. :blink:
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I take it you were behind the camera (and it's on auto)? Both of your hands were in the pictures, which kinda threw me. :(


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Can't wait to see where you go with the legs, but a suggestion: would it be easier to flesh out all the armature, hydraulics, and piping before adding the armor, or work on it all as one piece?

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Can't wait to see where you go with the legs, but a suggestion: would it be easier to flesh out all the armature, hydraulics, and piping before adding the armor, or work on it all as one piece?


I'm going to use rare earth magnets to attach the armour and when I get the time I am going to redo Lucie with magnets as well. It seems a better way to go.

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I spent the entire weekend revamping the lower legs making them wider and a half inch shorter. I cut down the radius of the hip and decreased the front to back measurement of the upper legs and and sheathed the whole all the while remodeling the bath which somehow takes precedence?

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Well I did have to cut the upper legs down again another 4MM all around. I installed the skin (AGAIN) and am working on the detail.

I made a couple of jigs to facilitate the assembly first a cutting jig so the zipper-like trim is homogeneous and equally spaced.

And a small aligning jig so the truncated pieces are aligned with their opposite number.

DS has 9 sets up the back of the leg but I got ten with approximately the same spacing so either his are larger or his legs are shorter or he isn't as anal about the spacing. :)



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I use Ambroid ProWeld when I can get it. I keep it in a Tamiya bottle because it's less prone to tipping and the fine tipped brush wastes a lot less solvent (Its really not a glue so much as a plastic melter.)

For really large surfaces I use Testors red or blue tubed styrene cement. I see little difference between the two other than the toxicity of the red but I've never ben afacked bi iet myslef.


Hmmm.......... I seem to have experienced a flurry of activity this weekend completing the basic upper leg structure and adding a bit of detail.

Time to take stock and see where I've gone wrong.

One step forward and two steps back seems to be my mantra.....................


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This is looking unholy difficult but amazing. Great job so far.

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The difficulty is the fun part;

The Blackadder is in his glory. I relish doing the fine detail. Well this project is fraught with minute detail some of which is smaller than the pixel resolution in the images I have.

You're going to have to look close (If you're so inclined I won't presume my work is worth more than a causal glance.) to see where the changes are in the detail. I'm particularly pleased with the piping on the edge of the hip plate reinforcement which is literally a thread of styrene 0.4 MM by 0.75 MM. Strips so fine as to be ephemeral when full strength ProWeld is applied. I used de-volatilized Proweld to keep it from disappearing. The cog components on the ankle quadrant (sic) are a gimmee.
Note that the strips on either side of the Bow-tie like trim which I presume serve some utilitarian function.

The Knee plate reinforcements are in progress at the moment............

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It really is all about the details. I understand that completely but for me I rarely never go below 1 mm and only if i have some .5 mm plastic card handy. In your defence though I bet this bad boy will look better than anything Forgeworld would ever be able to produce. This makes me want to work on my reaver titan again. :jaw:

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A poor showing this week I'm afraid, my real job workload was staggering but I did manage to rebuild the front of the knee joint (Why does it look like a marshmallow Easter peep?) and add a lot of basic detail.

God this will be detail heavy I'm up over a pound for each leg and half the detail isn't installed.

I'm taking a crash course on fiber optics and will be incorporating it in this and the Thunderhawk


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It's time to address the most baffling component of this project, namely what the outrageously long hydraulic cylinder is for running down the calf of the leg?

It appears in the epic model as well as the DS construct but I can fathom no applicable purpose. The quadrant gear in the ankle provides the step motion and that is supplemented by the small cylinders attached to the heel which mimic the function of the Achilles tendon. Were the cylinder attached upper leg behind the knee it would serve as the calf muscle but it doesn't attach there anyway it looks very interesting so I am including it in my construct complete with superfluous safety guard rails so people twenty feet off the ground don't lose an arm in the massive hydraulic piston.

As it is right now each of these legs are as complex as anything I have built with the exception of Lucie's pedal appendages and they are about only half detailed. Surprisingly my enthusiasm has not flagged.

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Just another bit before I put this aside for the weekend. The detail is progressing nicely although what these devices actually do is a mystery. but they do look intricate and that is the look I am going for.

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Tomorrow the main lower leg cylinders; that should be fun.

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Maybe go out on a limb and do just that and attach a larger hydrolic to the upper leg or to the back of the knee joint. Edit: Could probably use also a smaller redundancy piston also either on the front or next to the parent larger piston in the back. No one says you have too follow GW design to the letter considering how reliable there technical know how is in robotics. ;)

Edited by MordentHex, 20 May 2012 - 11:31 PM.

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Maybe go out on a limb and do just that and attach a larger hydrolic to the upper leg or to the back of the knee joint. Edit: Could probably use also a smaller redundancy piston also either on the front or next to the parent larger piston in the back. No one says you have too follow GW design to the letter considering how reliable there technical know how is in robotics. :lol:


Personally I believe it was included as artistic license to flesh out what otherwise would be a very bland design except in the Epic and the DS Warlord. That is the problem I find with most of the scratch Warlord titans I see, not enough detail. Large bland areas of flat sheets so the realism is suspended in what otherwise would be a finely executed model and the result is boring.

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Very True, If someone did a battletech mech at this scale and blanded it out as some other WIPs i've seen, they would be hung from the nearest tree by said fans. Those mechs are at most 1/4th ths size of a warhound. But every extra detail you put on said model is another thing you will eventually have to paint. Such is the price of genius and ability. A Warlord Titan is roughly 3 to 4 times the mass of a warhound titan. Warhound titans are roughly 400+ tons depending on armament. With that in mind, I think your going to need some serious Leg support to carry that weight. The last thing anyone wants is for a million+ ton warmachine crashing to the ground because its legs went soft on it right out of the tech-bay. Then again if your not going for semi-realism then that can totally be ignored. I really love this thread, it makes me excited and want to build giant Robots. :(

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I've looked at Battletech Mechs and they are not without their svelte appeal, they are perfect future weapons but I prefer the anachronistic styling of the FW/GW efforts. The rundown and makeshift vehicles have a certain charm that I covet.

Regarding the weight I have certain ideas as to how to reproduce the upper works to convey the massiveness whil keeping the overall weight to a minimum.

How well I succeed remains to be seen.

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that things going to be masive... are you building a holloween costume for a small child?
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