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[rpnightsend]

Does anyone else have that one squad or model that tends to die horrible no matter what you do with it? For me its my one fully painted/converted squad of Dark Angels. No matter how I field them, as Dark Angels, C: SM, veterans, or tacticals, they will find a way to fail in the most obnoxiously possible way and die to ridiculous odds. Even in their custom Dark Angels Rhino.

To date they've:
1. Been shot to death by grots
2. failed a pinning check 4 consecutive turns after taking a single casualty each turn from ratlings
3. Failed to kill a carnifex that had one wound left with all of their shooting (including a meltagun and missile launcher) then got charged, failed to kill it with close combat attacks, failed to kill it with their power fist, and then lost the combat and fled off the board.
4. Lost to 12 kroot in close combat when they charged
5. Got killed by one round of shooting from 10 necron immortals
6. (Most Recently) Lost combat to 5 Grey Hunters who failed their counter attack roll, then got sweeping advanced and died from the NO RETREAT! stuff.

I just don't know what to do with them because I love the way they look and i only have 3 fully painted marine squads, but they, quite frankly, just suck.

Edited by rpnightsend, 05 April 2012 - 12:32 AM.

[Ryan]

OUCH!

Thats some really bad luck mate. I Prefer not to dwell on the bad things that happen to my units, but remember with foundness those moments when they out perform all expectations. Like the time a Master of Sanctity & The Emperors Champion took apart a 2k Nid army on there own without taking a wound (After the bodyguard squad they'd deployed with was wiped out)

[rpnightsend]

That doesn't tend to happen to my marines... they either perform as expected or die pathetically. Few are my moments of outstanding luck.

[Subtle Discord]

Sounds like you need to paint more squads. They're hexed because they're complete. More painted squads will absorb some of the bad mojo.

[rpnightsend]

I use them as part of a fully painted army. They're just my only fully painted dark angels 10-men power armored squad.

[Roesor]

You could repent for whatver sins they've commited by...oh I don't know...are there any of your chapter that have been traitors...that you could pursue? Fallen that you could hunt you might say ....

Hrm...stop using them until they learn to fight.

[Jonas Stromclaw]

Wow. I've nothing like that. However, there is this one pack of Grey Hunters that has yet to survive a game, and they have been finished off in some rather pathetic ways. Killed in assault by grots twice and tau gun drones once. Lost the last five models to pistol fire from a unit of eight slugga boyz. Oh, and lost eight guys in a single turn to IG lasfire. Their wolfguard leader has officially earned the name Haegr the Hapless.

[11th Company Dark Master]

My DA Int-Chaplain is the most powerful BAMF ever to walk the battlefields of the 41st Millennium. That is why he never lives more than 1 turn. How does that work you ask? Simple, my opponent would rather insta-gib him than let him run wild through his army.

Such amazing deaths include:
- Raven Guard dread arrived via drop-pod and fired a multi-melta into his back
- turned into a Chaos spawn (which was then vaporised by friendly fire from a chaos dread)
- hit by friendly fire (vindicator)
- Hive Tyrant bonesword
- Run over by a rhino, Land Raider, Razorback...probably everything the Astartes have.

[captain sox]

The one model that has only killed on thing in six games is my one Typhoon with Multi-Melta. I run DA, so Melta is a free upgrade, so why not take it? The frags scatter off the table, and my Kraks never do anything. I roll a 1 90 of the time with my Melta. My one kill so far with it was a Baneblade:

Deep Strike landed behind the beast. Meta hit it's rear armour and scored a pen. Rolled a 6. Chain Reaction! Rolled another 6! Chain reacation again. Third roll was a 6, and it was reduced to 0 Structure points. On the Catostropic Damage table I rolled a 4. The Baneblade exploded.

The crew of the speeder rejoyced, until a they were shot down in my opponents turn.

[leinmann]

i don't really have a unit that fails consistently, at least to the extent of your poor DAs, but sometimes i think 'why did i spend the points on you'. i fought against some Eldar Corsairs recently and took a libby with a vangaurd vet squad in razorback. left them in reserve. when did they turn up? turn 4. by that point, i had already wiped out most of the corsairs and captured the objective. what did the unit kill? diddly squat (and thats not the name of a space dwarf either). to add insult, the only corsair unit that could shoot immobilised the razorback on it 2nd turn, meaning they had to slog it on foot, but then the game ended.
however, my powerfisted scout sergeant has withstood an assault from 10 zerkers and won the combat with his squad, and survived 35 attacks from a wych unit when i was the dark eldar and they were on lone to a friend who was just getting into the game. or my vanguard sergeant who killed a sorceror with his powerfist, or my tactical squad sergeant who killed a seer council after surving a round of shooting at them. better to remember the good times fondly i find.

[Stobz]

BELIAL!!!!

He either dies horribly or contributes nothing to the battle apart from in the list process.

Edit: he survived the last game by total fluke. Normally I get him into the fight and he gets squished by fists etc.

SOOOOO glad he's cheap.


stobz

[Vazzy]

My poor hapless Dark Angels scouts. Worst string of luck ever, I swear to the Emperor.

Blown up by a frag missile scattering back onto to them
Killed by a Land Raider explosion
Gunned down by gun drones
Assaulting a guardsmen unit killing only one,but losing two, fail leadership and flee of the board

And my personal favorite, assaulting a lone eldar guardian, fail to wound for an entires game worth of CQB and slowing being killed off. I've stopped running them as I don't want my chapter to become extinct.

[puck]

Clearly they have displeased the Lion. You must decimate the squad to regain their honor: put ten stones in a cup, have each model draw one. Whoever draws the black stone gets stoned to death by the others.

Maybe its not the models fault. Maybe you need some new dice...

[BassWave]

Hmm, I'm starting to see a trend here. Most of these instances involve DA...

[Brother_Fatiswon]

get them a shiny new land raider for transport/support... nothing fixes a squad of marines like a Raider does...

[Solid Zaku]

My Terminators. I made the mistake of fielding them once as TH/SS termicide squads during an Apocalypse match, when I am normally abjectly against such beardy shenanigans. Well, the dice gods got their pound of ceramite. A bad deep strike roll ended them up roiling through the Warp to end up stuck inside of an outhouse for two turns as they shuffled out in shame, toilet tickets streaming from their plasteel boots. After that ignominy, I thought I was in the clear. They assaulted the Ork Stompa Kommanda that did it to them and, wouldn't you know it, they killed the beastly thing that had already chewed through two Chimeras and half of my command squad. I was feeling elated, all until the piece of cobbled together rump-gubbinz went Nukulah and turned almost a thousand points of my finest Chapter veterans into a greasy pile of slag and knockoff 13th Founding progenoid dust.

[Sneekystabs]

my chaos lord seemed to be unbelievably bad luck...

he was killed by genestealers on turn one

smashed by a dread knight after escaping marneus calgar with one wound left

and run over with a land raider and turn 2


sooo i traded him for my daemon prince

[Pariah Mk.231]

I don't think I've had a particular unit suffer that badly often enough to take note of, though some of my traitors seem to be blessed of the dark gods.

Back when my traitors were using the rules for Elysians, I had one special weapon team face off against a squad of terminators. Termies shot and killed 3 guardsmen, but were out of charge range by a few inches. My lad with democharge tossed it only to have it scatter right back onto himself, killing only himself and leaving the two flamer lads alive. They proceeded to roast 4 termies between them before charging in and bludgeoning the last one to death.
More recently in an Apoc game, my traitor commander found himself all on his own, surrounded by 3 tactical squads who drop-podded in right next to him and his squad. First squad wiped out his unit and got him down to 1 wound, the next 2 squads and all the drop pods couldn't do a thing to him, mostly missing, a few failed to wound and those that did got saved by his refractor field. He wasn't even wearing carapace. The squad was just an excuse to take a master of ordnance for some long range firepower while they sat all the way down the back, alone. (which is how they got surrounded)
Luckily my 2 of my chaos marine squads were on the ball, strolling over and releasing sweet bolter death on one squad while the commander hid behind a large rock, then patiantly waited while the loyalists figured out how to aim before firing with their pistols, laughed as nothing died and then beat up the marines who foolishly cherged them. Just to rub it, they popped out some daemons next turn and finished eating the marines. To be spiteful, the guard player on the other team fired a basilisk at my tightly packed marines, which scattered, hit the nearby commander behind his rock and was again saved by his refracter field.

Unfortunately, most of the joy got taken from the rest of my army by my teammates and my guys just sort of sat there twiddling their thumbs. My lord and raptors got disrupted and placed way in the back (after I'd already killed the drop-pod marines), then got hit by a basilisk and lost all 10 raptors. The lord then tried to shoot the only thing available to him, a drop pod, and proceeded to overheat his plasma pistol, clearly the daemon sword decided if it couldn't cause the lord to take a wound, it wound influence the pistol to do it instead.

Come to think of it, my Chaos lord has always been an under achiever. You'd expect a khorne lord with a daemon weapon and a jump pack to at least kill things before dying, by he apparently doesn't even like making it to combat. When he does make it he tends to get smacked around before he can do any real damage. I don't think he's ever managed to kill more than 5 models in a single game. Ok, yup, my chaos lord definately deserves to be classed as "That one model".

[ChaosLord Leon Enaek]

My Chosen of Khorne plasma gunner. I have fielded him in 31 games and in 28 the first time he shoots his gun overheated- but he ALWAYS survives. I can't figure out if he's cursed by the gods because of all these poor rolls, or blessed because he regularly survives the heat if a star flying outwards from his gun.

Oddly since I've swapped him into a havoc squad he's killed 2 space marine captains, 2 raiders, 1 carnifex, 6 orks and a voidraven.

Khorne confuses me...

[BadSanta]

I remember my Devastator Squad was very unlucky. It consists of 2 Plasma Cannons and 2 Lascannons. Usually I field them divided into 2 combat squads (2 plasma - first, 2 lascannons - second).

Plasmacannons squad tends to burn themselves every game. Lascannons squad almost never roll 3 or more to hit and always fail to do anything to enemy armour.

Also I have a bad luck with my terminators squads (all of them) and tend to fail 2+ saves almost always to silly stuff like Tyranids swarms, small arms fire and nearby vechicle explosions. Most bad roll recorded so far was 5 1's and 1 2's rolls on six d6 for their armour saves.

[canus wolfrum]

I (seemingly) always roll 'ones' for Multimelta wounds or 1 less than the AV of the vehicle

Anything new invariably gets walloped on Turn 1

Bike squads never seem to do diddly squit either.

One of my regular opponents has zero luck with his Trygon with it normally dying before causing any deaths and another one cannot deep strike without mishap.

[Fulminata]

One of my better painted models, my Iron Warriors Defiler. No matter how I deploy it, it ALWAYS seems to die very quick, in a loud, military manner. His luck is changing a little; however, he did survive the last battle and was quite effective with both his battle cannon and in close combat. Maybe his luck is changing. One could hope.

[rpnightsend]

smashed by a dread knight after escaping marneus calgar with one wound left

Dear Emperor who did you tick off to be fighting Calgar and Grey Knights at the same time??

Hmm, I'm starting to see a trend here. Most of these instances involve DA...

It obviously means we need a new codex. especially since most of the other posts are coming from chaos who also could use a shiny new book...

[Gammadin]

My Daemon Prince. The worst instance was when he was gunned down by a single combat squad with no special weapons in one turn.

[Ah-a-nothepsis]

Hmm, I'm starting to see a trend here. Most of these instances involve DA...

It obviously means we need a new codex. especially since most of the other posts are coming from chaos who also could use a shiny new book...

I love how our books are so bad that we want each other to get a new book.

Anyways, my unit is.... drum roll...

3 Obliterators.

Need 3 lascannons to hit that landspeeder that's about to melta Ahriman? Nope, 3 misses.

Need 3 plasmacannons on enemy plague marines? Nope. 3 Overheats, 3 failed Terminator saves.

Need to shoot twin-linked flamers at a unit of orks? I won't even tell you what happened on this last one.