The whole Primaris matter thing is something I struggle to come to terms with intellectually; upon analysing my facade statement that I don't care about Primaris, I have to concede that I in fact in some way care, which results in unwelcome conflict and unnecessary self-contradiction. And this is driving me mad.
So, as I already stated in the opening sentence, my first response to the Primaris matter is that I don't care about them. But what I probably actually mean is that I have nothing against them. However, after a short reflection this claim doesn't hold water too. What I probably actually want to say is that I'm over the whole thing - I can exist in a world where Primaris are a thing... yeah... But can I? Apparently, no, I can't. At least not so easily as I'd like to think I can or could. But not because I fear that my models (i.e. the ones I have and not the entire regular marines range, mind you) get somehow invalidated. No. They're here to stay since I put my heart and soul into them, even the unpainted ones. There are more profound and complex reasons behind my struggle.
I suppose that I overthink the entire matter and place it in a larger picture of my recent dissatisfaction with broadly construed popular culture.
Allow me an attempt to explain this.
I have 3 primary issues related to Primaris:
1. Disclaimer: This is not something directly related to them, but the writing is there. I 'blame' Primaris for ruining the rules for many regular Marine units. My discussion of rules is limited to C:SM because that's the only codex I'm familiar with. And from what I read on this forum, it is quite poor when compared to many other books, which is a totally different issue.
In my opinion, all Primaris units are decent/good, which isn't the case with regular SM units. The vehicles - Land Speeders, Vindicators, Land Raiders, Drop Pods, Stormtalons and Stormravens - are either utterly useless or inferior to Primaris units. Take Inceptors as a fast attack choice, or compare Land Raiders/Stormravens and Repulsors. Now take heavy and support infantry - the regular Marines have an edge in anti-armour roles (lascannon Devastators), but Aggressors and Hellblasters are great choices, unlike the overpriced Centurions and the iconic (and laughable) Terminators. Finally, Intercessors gutted bolter marines since they have 'proper space marine stats': are more durable and have actual rifles and not glorified lasguns. The fact that regular botlers don't have any AP is outrageous.
And now, I don't hope or want the Primaris to have poor rules. But I want my previous purchases to have decent or good or simply balanced rules too! I want to be able to use, in casual games, my Vindicators and Stalker and Centurions and Stormtalons and Terminators and bloody-expensive Drop Pods that I bought and never got to use without feeling like punishing myself before the game starts. But I can't.
Maybe I could in a friendly game, but I'm an outsider in my local gaming community (due to many actual duties) and don't have any gaming friends. While it's on me that I don't have gaming friends, the game itself should be a mechanical framework to make any list work (the point system should serve a purpose, right?). But it doesn't. Definitions of casual or friendly games vary between people too. And I can't imagine trying to arrange a friendly game with a random person and make all the reservations in hope to have decent fun with my Terminators and bikers (mind you, I don't need to win games, but I don't want to have any more experiences like I had where my 'gaming' was basically limited to rolling armour saves).
These impressions and fears confirm my belief that the product and service I bought (miniatures to use in a game + game rules) are broken. Or rather got broken in an update made by GW. The short period when 8th Edition was limited to Indexes was my second best time I had with this game since I started in 5th. But GW utterly ruined that for me. In consequence, I'm not willing to buy anything from a company that breaks (and false advertises!) the product (or service) it sells because these practices ruin the emperor-damned market. Just take a look at the current controversies in the video game industry. I don't feel like or even can't contribute to the problem which eats away at the 'ludic sector'. Because if I buy stuff from GW, I'm sending them a clear message: everything is fine, I like what you're doing, keep up the good work. And I simply can't agree to that.
Which brings me to...
2. I'm with GW for preventing me from buying more of their stuff. This paradox makes total sense, I assure you . I'd love to be able to have an entire army of 'true-scale' marines. I'd like to exchange my Stormtalons and Centurions for some of the later releases, but I can't do that because I were a hoarder and I got that stuff for the future which didn't come due to poor rule support. For reasons of self-composure outlined above, I also can't get any of the new stuff - the Repulsor (which I could improve on) or Primaris infantry or the Stormhawk which is a huge improvement over the Stormtalon.
On the topic of Primaris infantry, I like the better proportions. I could like the increased size, but they seem to big. They would work better if they scaled better with existing model ranges, but in my opinion they don't. I like the look of the new guns. But the models seem quite limited and boring, however (too much Call of Duty, not enough Gothic); and from what I see in people's plogs, this is true since the gross majority of armies have a repetitive, almost 'cookie-cutter' vibe to them, something that I didn't get with most regular marine armies. But maybe that's just me and my bias.
While I'm quite resolute not to add Primaris to my 'proper' 40K crusade, I could get 5-10 upscaled marines to form a kill team and just have them for the sake of having larger and (arguably) cooler models. But I won't do that, regrettably, because I don't agree to what GW is doing.
And on the topic of what GW is doing...
3. GW has wasted and continues to waste so many opportunities with Primaris. They introduced (arguably) unnecessary strife to the community, they upset a lot of people and they (arguably) ruined the lore by turning a 'setting' into a 'space opera' with Primarchs and heroes in the centre, which by default places some factions in the spotlight which is only further troublesome for the entire setting and game (e.g. factions with a Primarch-like unit have a clear advantage over those who don't). Personally, I'm not a fan of the changes they've made. And not because I'm against change and progress, but because I see the 'plot progression' as poorly executed.
But Primaris themselves, the released models, annoy me because they killed off so much potential! Other factions deserve updated miniature lines badly - Imperial Guard, Sisters of Battle, Eldar, Orks or, the worst offender, Chaos. But GW chooses to release larger marines instead (I suppose because they are a sure profit). And afterwards, they decide to 'excite' the community with more 'exciting' and flashy (unlike the down-to-earth IG) stuff for the bloated Imperium - Custodes and more Imperial Knights and now apparently more Primaris.
Instead of taking a risk and make an effort to supply a part of the neglected customer base with new miniatures and better rules, GW plays it safe and does something which is clearly good for the company (see where 'playing it safe' has brought EA or Bethesda), but comes at the expense of the entire 40K franchise. The universe could be that more interesting if they'd focus more on other factions (like they do with Genestealer Cults) instead of adding more to an already ginormous amalgam - the entire Space Marine family. Instead, I feel we get a boring setting even more focused on bigger super soldiers led by uninspired characters involved in simplistic and bombastic plots (I'd better stop here and not be going into detail of my take on recent 40K lore). And this is the main reason I would rather not see any new Primaris releases.
If I were to be excited about anything in the hobby now, I'd be excited about changing my mind. I can't wait for GW to finally get capable and sort the rules out. But I'm not holding my breath for Chapter Approved. I did that last year and nothing good came of it (just a nerf to the Stormraven that I finished painting). I'll just wait for the release and see what you guys make of it.
This all led me to a quite sad conclusion where I simply don't care about new things in 40K any more. They are supposedly exciting, judging by the posts I happen to read here, but they're happening somehow beside me. Like a train that's about to depart, but from a different platform than the one I'm waiting for - surely there are people who wait for that train, but it's just not me. And this realisation is depressing, even when I look back to my anticipation of Gathering Storm and 8th Edition.
In conclusion, I think that my doubts about the hobby and the nagging idea to end with 40K are motivated by forces larger than the introduction Primaris. Contributing factors are my occasional dissatisfaction with my painting skills (which surfaces from time to time during finishing touches on models, usually after a long painting session), lack of time, poor gaming environment (i.e. rules for 8th edition and disappointing balance of Codices), the new background (which I can easily ignore, but which sets future trends) and uncertainty about the validity and viability of my collection in the future. The most destructive force is working in solitude and not having an opportunity to interact with other people, but that's largely my fault which I try to make up for on this forum.
@Roujackis - The people were totally right, I'd cast a vote to bolster the ~250 individuals. Don't you dare sell you army, your beautifully customised marines. No money will compensate the work and effort you put into making your collection!
@Robofish - Sure, I'll keep on painting and sharing my work with you! The support is something that really keeps me going.
And I already started adjusting my army as 'count as' Primaris - I've started with using the only 32 mm bases I have to make a squad of 5 'Intercessors' and 5 'Hellblasters' who will ride in a 'Repulsor' (customised Land Raider). I don't think that regular marines will get phased out (after all, we had an official statement from GW!) but if they do, I'll just attach my marines on 25mm bases onto 32 mm bases - this should offset the difference in height well enough!
PS: I also discovered that I haven't posted any pictures of my Power Axe Castellan, Apothecary and Standard Bearer in this thread. I'll need to make up for this oversight!
Edited by Brother Cristopher, 05 December 2018 - 10:27 PM.