Kevin48220 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I'm currently the owner of a Codex Space Marines force, and with the allies rules in 6th, I've worked out how my Chapter could be allied with the SOB. Gist of it is that the Chapter (The Crusaders) is quartered on a barren, desert-like planet far out on the edges of Imperial space. They and a small mission of the SOB often work together from necessity--in a crisis, there's not enough time to call up your brothers and sisters who don't live close by. So, you call the neighbors. The Crusaders have been done in a style that I'm calling "Desert Gothic". The idea was to do a dynamic color scheme that relied on earth tones and evoked the old European Crusaders. As in: http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0283.jpg "No, really, I know that I parked the Rhino over here." The SOB I'm working on now are intended to be consistent with the Crusaders, but will have their own distinct look. I thought that giving them a more Hellenistic look would be a nice contrast and mesh well. The overall thought is that both the Marines and SOB are far enough removed from the more distinctly Roman center of the Imperium to have adopted a more Persian/Hellenistic style. Prototype models (front and back views): http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0281.jpg http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0280.jpg I'm starting with Eldar torso, legs, and arms. I've removed the Shuriken cannon and added a bolter. The head comes from Wargames Factory's "Amazon" set, as well as the shield, javelin, bow and quiver. I wanted to give them a more athletic and functional appearance, with an archaic quality that wasn't the distinctly European style that the official models have. I'm also going to use some of the Dark Eldar legs, torsos, and arms as well. Since the models will be using so many Amazon pieces, I'm thinking of making them "The Order of St. Hippolyta" (named for the mythic Amazon queen--and I'm thinking doing a "St. Hippolyta" conversion that would use the St. Celestine stats and rules). I'm thinking of using blues, some red, pearl white, and some metallic tones for the colors (brass, pewter, maybe some silver). As with my Marines, I've adopted a "no black" policy for my color scheme. Just curious as to what folks here think of these prototypes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Hippolyta has unfortunate implications in the mythology, but those models look pretty awesome. Personally, I would cut the neck brace off the Guardian torsos, and remove some of the nodules on the arms and legs though - it makes them look too much like they're still just Eldar with funny hats. The other thing I'd suggest is using some actual Sororitas backpacks. Also, bolt pistols look like bolt pistols unless they're actually being held in both hands, and Sisters' bolters are actually slightly longer than Marine ones (but slimmer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin48220 Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 It's always good to have another set of eyes on these things, and your idea about removing some of the arm/leg detail and the neck brace is well taken. I'd also thought about using Dark Eldar Wytch torsos, as they don't have the neck piece and it's easier to get female torsos in larger quantities from those kits. The bolt pistols are being used for the prototypes because--well, they're what I had on hand. I'm looking at some other options for them, including making some barrel extensions for them if I end up having to use boltpistols. I'd originally tried trimming down the shuriken catapults, but they ended up looking like Eldar with sawed-offs. As to backpacks, I'm waiting to get some packs from the Wargames Factory's Greatcoats to see how well those work. Maybe they'll be fine with some modification, or maybe I'll end up splurging on the real things. Thanks for the comments, I appreciate it, and I'm glad you like them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 There are some third party Sororitas backpacks that look awesome, I think Jacinda has the link. I don't know about Wych torsos, but DE Warrior torsos are certainly usable, so I don't imagine there would be that much of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Do you mean these? http://media.thewarstore.com/media/MXM/ss_size2/MXMCB051.jpg Currently out of stock at The War Store but several places carry them or you could try straight from Maxmini. I go through the bits site because it is in the US and I can get things quicker that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin48220 Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 Wow, those are amazing. I'll have to look for those--otherwise, may just go with trimmed-down Marine backpacks. I thought of getting the DE Wych torsos b/c you get a higher proportion of female to male torsos in that kit than in any other--6 female to 4 male, as opposed to other kits, which have a 2 to 3 ratio (Hellions) or 2 to 8 ratio (Eldar Guardian). Going on the bits market, and since my SOB will be an allied force for my Codex Marines, I don't have to get too many. My other option is to use some green stuff and try to build up the chest plates on male torsos a bit, so the model will be more discernibly female--but I'm not too sure about that. My patient may sue after she sees the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Ehe, yeah, sculpting mammaries onto armour is a pain in the rear. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/KaguraHakubi/Smilies/sweatdroplaugh.gif I did it to an Empire Wizard and even though you can barely SEE her torso under the robes and the arms, it doesn't look very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin48220 Posted July 1, 2012 Author Share Posted July 1, 2012 And, after doing some digging into the mythology, I'll be using a different name for my order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Yeah... like I said, Unfortunate Implications. May I suggest Artemis, Athena, Minerva, Sulis, Stheno or Euryale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin48220 Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 I've settled on "Order of St. Alouette". It's a reference to St. Joan of Arc, whom I've always admired. Jean Anouilh's play about her is called "L'Alouette" (The Lark). Thread name will be changed accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I like that name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Very elegant. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin48220 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks, it feels pretty good. I'm looking at art and images of St. Joan to settle on the color scheme--seemed appropriate to do so. Still getting my bits and pieces together to do these conversions, but I think they'll look pretty good once they're done. Have played around with a few torsos--shaving down the neckpiece and fussing with some backpacks. The regular Marine packs look huge on them, and will be working with some smaller ones I found online--not GW, but they look nice with the Eldar bodies. Crazy to be doing all of this just to build an allied unit for my SM. I have the terrible thought that I've just started a really work-intensive 2nd army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Rosette Soulknyt Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Those are the best backpacks i've seen, i plan on buying several squads of these for Celestiens, Sister Superiors that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Rosette Soulknyt Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Just found someone selling them on ebay..picked up three lots of 6. Bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin48220 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 They are beautiful, certainly. Just out of curiosity, I am wondering what other players do to differentiate Sisters units. With my Codex SM, I ended up working up a variant color scheme for the shoulder pads of each of the different unit types so I could easily tell them apart. The plan for my Sisters units will be to vary the shields and equipment (including the backpacks) so that I can quickly differentiate them. Just wondering what other folks do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I do very little to make them different. I used to color code the ring around the base but after C:WH when I had to change up the squads, they are all black except for those I use with my Dominions which are Beastial Brown. Since I don't put combi weapons on my BSS seargents any more, I have 3 with a white base to distinguish them. If the list stays the same after a few months, I will probably do squad colored basses again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredegar Kadere Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I color code the Fleur-de-lys on the backpack to differentiate my squads. I rarely keep a consistent wargear loadout beyond my two Battle Sister troops squads so coloring coding bases would grow to be problematic. The backpacks are easy enough to remove and reapply when I decide to do new squad loadouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I color code the Fleur-de-lys on the backpack to differentiate my squads. I rarely keep a consistent wargear loadout beyond my two Battle Sister troops squads so coloring coding bases would grow to be problematic. The backpacks are easy enough to remove and reapply when I decide to do new squad loadouts. *smacks forehead* Well duh! Why didn't I think of this before. It would be easy to magnatize the backpacks like that. All you really need are the special weapons anyway because the bolter sisters never change no matter the loadout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin48220 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 I was out and about today, and stopped by a gaming store that sells used models. I picked up a bag of WFB Dark Elf Warriors and applied their legs to my latest "volunteer". I trimmed the neckpiece away from an Eldar Guardian and added the Amazon head, shield, and javelin; the boltgun, a pair of SM pads and a Games Factory Greatcoat backpack completes her ensemble. And voila, plastic SOB Prototype Version 2. Obviously, she needs some cleanup and a bit of fine-tuning, but I think this one is much improved over the first iteration: http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0284.jpghttp://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0286.jpghttp://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0285.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin48220 Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Here is a new one, my attempt at a St. Alouette. She will use the "St. Celestine" stats and abilities, just renamed for my Order. http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0287-A.jpghttp://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0289-B.jpghttp://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq78/kpsaari/IMG_0288-C.jpg She's made with: Eldar torso (female); DE Scourge legs; Dark Elf Warrior sword arm; Kings of War Elf standard; Kings of War Elf shoulder plates; Amazon head; Space Marine backpack modified with the Altar of Sigmar wings (to give her mechanical wings for her jump pack), and an Amazon shield hanging on her back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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