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Edit: I forgot scout Segeants are BS4. I think the combi-grav would be fine then.

I also don't like overcharged engines on sniper Preds. But that's preference. The only Lucifer pattern engine I buy is for a Vindicator, because it's worth it.

Otherwise I can't really see anything else to change.


If I want a sniper tank, I'll play Codex msn-wink.gif

The theory is that the tank will be advancing with the Razors (Objective-collecting notwithstanding) and I wish to be able to fire as often as I can at the best BS I can. Seriously, if I'm going to be taking lascannon sponsons I don't want to be paying for them to only snap shot. The tank needs to fire at full effect in this list.

Makes sense. I play my Preds cheap and in cover to snipe with them. I understand where you're coming from though.
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Potential game next month, so I've taking some inspiration from Morticon and spruced my light mech list up a little. Changes in red:

 

Blood Angels - 1500

 

Combined Arms Detachment

 

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Librarian

~ Level 2 (Sanguinary or Diviniation)
~ Galian's Staff

~ Auspex

~ Space Marine Bike
 

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"Fragioso" Dreadnought
~ Frag Cannon
~ Melta Gun
~ Magna Grapple
~ Drop Pod

~~ Deathwind missile launcher

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Tactical Squad (5)
~ Plasma gun

~ Melta bombs, combi-plasma gun
~ Rhino

 

Tactical Squad (5)

~ Heavy flamer

~ Melta bombs

~ Razorback

~~ Lascannon and twin-linked plasma gun

 

Tactical Squad (5)
~ Flamer

~ Melta bombs, combi-flamer
~ Drop Pod


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Bike Squadron (5)
~ Grav Guns (2)

~ Combi-Grav, Melta Bomb

~ Attack Bike

~~ Multi Melta


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Relic Sicaran Battle Tank
~ Lascannon Sponsons

~ Legacy of Glory: Schism of Mars

Stormraven Gunship
~ Twin-linked Multi Melta
~ Twin-linked Assault Cannon
 

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Vindicare Assassin

 

Going with this (mainly because I have to pack the models tonight!). Will have a report up from the week beginning the 5th January. Cheers for the help folks!

 

Basically I've dropped the Predator, Scouts, sole Attack Bike and Death Company to squeeze in my Sicaran and two more Tactical Squads. I've also opted for a CAD over a BSF. Overall I feel that this will still play the same as the previous version of the list whilst offering me more ability to score Objectives and to hit hard from range.

 

Naturally, C&C are welcomed.


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I like it. Nice and mobile with some good firepower.

 

I think it's a shame to run BA without an Assault unit, that even scouts could provide to this (while maintaining some Obj Sec). Maybe even a 6 man squad to go inside the Raven by dropping the attack bike and a few other random bits?

 

Vindicare seems an out of place but fun addition! How does he usually fare for you? I love the rules but when you are only really ever doing on average 3-4 wounds across the game when you take into account cover and stuff he just feels underwhelming :(


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I like it. Nice and mobile with some good firepower.

 

I think it's a shame to run BA without an Assault unit, that even scouts could provide to this (while maintaining some Obj Sec). Maybe even a 6 man squad to go inside the Raven by dropping the attack bike and a few other random bits?

 

Vindicare seems an out of place but fun addition! How does he usually fare for you? I love the rules but when you are only really ever doing on average 3-4 wounds across the game when you take into account cover and stuff he just feels underwhelming sad.png

 

As you can see I used to have the Scouts do this but have eschewed them in favour of another Tactical Squad. Will see how it goes...

 

As for the Vindicare, you're right in that it can sometimes struggle to make it's points back but it has the potential to be amazing. I find you need to avoid the obvious targets and use it as a debuffer (and by that, I mean taking out key models at key times). I don't know if you remember but in the Apocalypse it took out that Killa Kan to allow the Reaver to charge the Phantom, the year before it got the killshot on a Reaver. In regular games it's got me Slay the Warlord but sometimes it dies before it can be of any use - just like everything else really.

 

That said, in my last game it would have had a wonderful time.


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Oh! Nice then.

 

Didn't know about the Kan! Incredible.



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Oh! Nice then.

 

Didn't know about the Kan! Incredible.

 

Well, there was a lot happening at the time msn-wink.gif


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Was it when my entire army turned up? laugh.png

 

Because I was busy laying the smack down to some Fallen if so.



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Also, the Vindicare ignores cover unless it's snap shooting. So that's always nice. I've had one kill a Doomsday Ark over three turns. That was fun.



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Always forget he ignores cover! That is very nice.



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The Vindicare is quite good at removing enemy vehicles thanks to S10 AP2 hitting on a 2+/4+ and ignoring cover. 



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Bump for 8th:

 

Light Mech, 1500

 

Battalion Detachment

 

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Librarian on Bike

~ Storm bolter, Galian's Staff

~ Smite, Unleash Rage, Shield of Sanguinius

~ Warlod: Gift of Forsight

 

Sanguinary Priest on Bike

~ Storm bolter, chainsword

 

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Scouts (6)

~ Storm bolter, chainsword

~ Shotguns (2)

~ Combat knife (3)

 

Tacticals (5)

~ Bolter, chainsword

~ Plasma Cannon

 

Tacticals (5)

Bolter, chainsword

~ Lascannon

 

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Bike Squad (5)

~ Combi-grav

~ Grav-gun (2)

~ Bolt pistol (2)

~ Attack bike

~~ Multi-melta

 

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Predator

~ Twin lascannon, Two lascannons

~ Storm bolter, hunter-killer missile

 

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Stormraven Gunship

~ Twin lascannon, typhoon missile launcher, two hurricane bolters

 

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Razorback

~ Twin assault cannon

~ Storm bolter

 

Razorback

~ Lascannon and twin plasma guns

~ Storm bolter

 

Thoughts

  • Bikes, Razors, Predator are the main threat.

  • Scouts role in the Stormraven for late drops, Tacticals sit on objectives

  • On reflection, probably need to fit in a missile launcher on the Tacticals. What to drop though?

  • Is it stacked too heavily on ranged shooting?


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Change the Plasma Cannon for a Missile, easy swap.

Seems nice and shooty, lacking on the AP with the choppy though.

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Change the Plasma Cannon for a Missile, easy swap.

Seems nice and shooty, lacking on the AP with the choppy though.

 

Did you mean the Tactical lascannon as they are the same points? Switching out the plasma means find four points (so two stormbolters...)

 

I probably do require a counter-assault element (at the moment it's the Bikes and Scouts). I could toss in some chainswords on the "spare" bikes, but I don't know where I'd find a power sword to go in anywhere - the Priest doesn't want to be in combat if it can be helped, whilst I don't plan on going for a T1 charge with the Scouts like a normally do.

 

The list's theme remains light mech and I want to keep that in place. I could save 60 points by swapping the Predator for a Vindicator, but something needs to do the heavy lifting. Perhaps if I switch one of the Tacticals from heavy to combat/moving orientated and have them start in a Razor?


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I mean the Tactical Plasma Cannon, but unsure of the points myself so if you need to find them I'd advise it.

 

Maybe swap out the Twin-Las Turret for the Pred Autocannon? It's still a solid workhorse. Vindicators are decidedly average - awful now :(

 

Tacs aren't fit for CC, you'd want something with at least 2A but the list is pretty set now - I'd focus on the shooting like you are but maybe drop in a powersword or two somewhere so you have bite if need be.


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As BA I find stock Marines can do a job thanks to that lush +1 to wound. A power sword wouldn't go amiss though.

Vindicator is still T8 and a threat, even if it has become niche. I also have no trouble fielding stuff the net/game/planet dislikes :) Point is, it fits the theme and gives me more points to play with. So do I need the Predstor's greater threat or extra points the most?

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Somewhat surprised that I've been running a variant of this list since 2012... Anyway, here's the post-CA18 version of the list (changes in red), one that I ran on the weekend at the last minute. It will need tweaking as it's too casual :/
 

Light Mech, 1500

 

Battalion Detachment

 

HQ

 

Librarian on Bike

~ Storm bolter, Galian's Staff

~ Smite, Unleash Rage, Shield of Sanguinius

~ Warlord: Gift of Forsight

 

Sanguinary Priest on Bike

~ Storm bolter, chainsword

~ The Veritas Vitae

 

Troops

 

Scouts (5)

~ Bolter, chainsword

~ Bolter (4)

 

Tacticals (5)

~ Bolter, chainsword

~ Missile Launcher

 

Tacticals (5)

Bolter, chainsword

~ Heavy Bolter

 

Heavy Support

 

Predator

~ Predator autocannon, two lascannons

~ Storm bolter, hunter-killer missile

 

Flyer

 

Stormraven Gunship

~ Twin lascannon, Typhoon missile launcher, two hurricane bolters

 

Dedicated Transport

 

Razorback

~ Twin assault cannon

~ Storm bolter

 

Razorback

~ Lascannon and twin plasma guns

~ Storm bolter

 

 

Outrider Detachment

 

HQ

 

Lieutenant

~ Mastercrafted bolter, power sword

 

Fast attack

 

Bike Squad (5)

~ Combi-grav

~ Grav-gun (2)

~ Chainsword (2)

 

 Attack bike

~ Multi-melta

 

 Attack bike

~ Heavy bolter

 

Options, thoughts, musings

  • Reminder of the theme: by light mech I envisage Razors, Rhinos, Bikes, etc. A sole Predator, etc, is there for the heavy lifting but I don't want to overdo it (I have a heavy mech theme elsewhere).
  • Extra CP with the Outrider, gobbled up by second relic. Librarian Warlord with GoF for that imperative 6+++ as there's no Standard of Sacrifice...
  • Veritas too important, Gallian's staff because 1) the model has a staff and, 2) I feel I need as many mortal wounds as possible in this edition. Shield because 5++ on either the bikes or an Attack Bike, Rage because this is my main combat block...
  • ML and HB Tacticals for mortal wounds. Perhaps I could spread these around? The HBAB is too feeble a platform but perhaps some Scouts to free up points?
  • Characters on bikes fits the theme, but perhaps jump packs and find the points for a jump ancient with Standard of Sacrifice to follow the bikes?
  • Lieutenant starts with the tank block. Perhaps a Dreadnought (Wisdom of Ancients), Captain, or Techmarine would be better here?
  • Not happy with the Stormraven, but at least it can be 24" away for maximun effectiveness. Could drop the hurricane bolters or try something else?

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