Destroyer Legions

[DarKnight]

Simple Question, which Legions do you guys think would use rad weapons? It's not as simple as bad guys vs. good guys because I'm pretty sure the Iron Hands & Salamanders would use them, but who do you guys see shunning and embracing these weapons.

[Durfast Spiritwolf]

Death Guard are mentioned as using them in the Betrayer RB and it is strongly suggested in Promethean Sun.

[d@n]

yep death guard 

[GodEmperorOfMankind]

I'd say Iron Warriors would use them for sure, but honestly I think most legions would have use for them at some point, just some more readily than others

[AekoldHelbrass]

World Eaters. And of course Night Lords. In fact, it is better to think who will not use them: Ultramarines, Emperor's Children, Dark Angels, Imperial Fists. I would not be surprised to see Destroyers in any other livery.

[DarKnight]

I'd say Iron Warriors would use them for sure, but honestly I think most legions would have use for them at some point, just some more readily than others

I'm prone to the same thinking, but the way that they're described is as a less than honorable weapon. Some Primarchs want victory at any cost, some only want victory on their terms in conjunction with the values they were raised with. I couldn't see the Lion thinking of the weapons as "honorable" in accordance with his knightly ode of conduct.

 

World Eaters. And of course Night Lords. In fact, it is better to think who will not use them: Ultramarines, Emperor's Children, Dark Angels, Imperial Fists. I would not be surprised to see Destroyers in any other livery.

I think you're right, I was wondering about the Blood Angels though. They come from a planet of irradiated mutants, I didn't know if that means they would respect the power of radiation, or detest it completely.

[Kol Saresk]

Death Guard in Betrayal and World Eaters in Betrayer are both mentioned as using Destroyers. I can easily imagine Night Lords and Iron Warriors using them.

 

Hmm, I wouldn't be surprised if the Word Bearers and Iron Hands took a whack at them, unless something says they don't.

[Jareddm]

World Eaters. And of course Night Lords. In fact, it is better to think who will not use them: Ultramarines, Emperor's Children, Dark Angels, Imperial Fists. I would not be surprised to see Destroyers in any other livery.

Funny you mention that considering the Ultramarines are the sample destroyer squad on Forgeworld's site. Obviously that might not mean anything but I'd like to think that even the more benevolent legions had their more vicious sides.

[Excessus]

Alpha Legion would use them, they are a tool to be used in warfare and to not use it would be illogical... :)

[Drale]

 

World Eaters. And of course Night Lords. In fact, it is better to think who will not use them: Ultramarines, Emperor's Children, Dark Angels, Imperial Fists. I would not be surprised to see Destroyers in any other livery.

Funny you mention that considering the Ultramarines are the sample destroyer squad on Forgeworld's site. Obviously that might not mean anything but I'd like to think that even the more benevolent legions had their more vicious sides.

 

 

 

Actually the sample destroyer squad from Forge World are Nightlords, look at the lightning on their Armour and the darker blue.

[Marshall Bretton]

i think probably legions like the ultramarines would not have dedicated formations, but they would have the weapons in case they were needed

 

same for the space wolves given all they really have are packs not specialist units

[Durfast Spiritwolf]

Yes, they are in Night Lords livery - all set for Massacre ;)

[jeremy1391]

I could see the dark angels running these guys,come on its a unit of cypher wannabes and they have no problems slinging rad rounds in modern 40k so I am almost certain they would use them in 30k.

[Kol Saresk]

Cypher had plasma didn't he?

[DarKnight]

I could see the dark angels running these guys,come on its a unit of cypher wannabes and they have no problems slinging rad rounds in modern 40k so I am almost certain they would use them in 30k.

cypher = plasma right? Using plasma doesn't taint the area in which it's used, at least on a long term basis. care to elaborate brother?

[Kol Saresk]

Interesting thought: Emperor's Children. Hear me out though. Glancing through Betrayal, it notes that the Emperor's Children studied all aspects of warfare and strove to perfect all of them and stated that every warrior, piece of equipment or officer was placed in a position best suited to their strengths and proven ability. So unless they had no rad-weapons, wouldn't that mean they found a home, no matter how rare?

[DarKnight]

Yes, they are in Night Lords livery - all set for Massacre

Has a release date been posted for this?

[Kol Saresk]

Yes, they are in Night Lords livery - all set for Massacre

Has a release date been posted for this?

Not as far as I know, but it may be announced at the Horus Heresy Weekender. Or released.

[JeffJedi]

The dark Angels would surely use them. The gunfighter thing as mentioned and they have a strong dislike for Xenos. I'm sure all Legions would have some for the dirty jobs.

[MadDoc]

Since when do Dark Angels equal gunslingers/gunfighters?

[Kol Saresk]

Since Cypher became the typical Dark Angel I guess. Which would be weird since last O heard he wasn't exactly a Loyalist. At least, not to the Emperor.

[Pavement Artist]

Honestly, ive given up trying to decide if any legion shouldn't have destroyers. Everytime i do, someone comes out with a great fluff explanation for them.

 

For example, i would have said no to the idea of ultramarine destroyers as it doesn't really fit with the courage and honour spiel. Then a friend of mine suggested using them to represent veterans of Calth.

 

Short version: if you can come up with some sweet fluff justification for destroyers then do so

[Arachnid99]

I always thought that the Wolves might not be big fans of Destroyers because of their "nature lover" aspect not meshing well with radiation and "salting the earth".

[Kol Saresk]

Well, part of the thing in the descriptor for Destroyers on Fargeworld says:

"Considered dishonourable by some Legions, who eschew them altogether or make little use of them, the arsenal of a Destroyer squad includes rad-weapons, bio-alchem munitions and the crawling horror of phosphex. These hellish devices, which irrevocably taint the ground upon which they are used, have been forbidden by the Emperor’s own edict, and with good reason. For during the long nightmare of the Age of Strife, many life-sustaining colony worlds were rendered barren by their use, becoming uninhabitable charnel houses where once these verdant planets held thriving civilisations."

So the Ultramarines being who they were, I think they would obey the Emperor's Edict.

On the other side, I figure the survivors of Calth would be the last ones to use rad-weapon because, well, it is how their planet died.

But, that is just a point of view and as you just said, any point of view can justify anything. Like perhaps some of the survivors became hardliners and decided to do whatever they must to destroy the enemy, especially the Word Bearers.

EDIT:

I always thought that the Wolves might not be big fans of Destroyers because of their "nature lover" aspect not meshing well with radiation and "salting the earth".

*looks at this post.

*looks at the Razing of Prospero.

*looks at this post.

*looks at the Razing of Prospero.

Yeah, the Wolves would never salt the earth.

[Uvenla]

I feel that this have been covered which would use it but thought on Iron Warriors. I get the feel even if they seem to be the ones that would use it, they don't seem to prioritize this weapons so much. Thinking on Perturabo in Angelus Exterminatus mentioning about toxic weapon used by a sniper as dishonorable.