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Hmmm I'm going to disagree with everyone in here and vote for option two! :P He might be old and wounded but he can still give a good fight (think of Iacton Qruze, he's even older). However if you go for option one which is also good I would put his hand resting over the bolter.
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i did a quick google search for some reference pictures but didn't find anything good, so if anyone have something i could use ill be greatful.

i think its option one traitor but you are right its even hinted that he is very powerful but hiding it

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another thing is that if im going with option 1 then i need to sculpt the flayed skin first. and still unsure how to mount it in the back, might make it like its rivited on. one rivet at each end

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Why would you mount it on the back? Isn't his flayed skin purely a frontal, apron kinda thing? It seems to me it's made up of the skin of the upper body of a man. 


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Why would you mount it on the back? Isn't his flayed skin purely a frontal, apron kinda thing? It seems to me it's made up of the skin of the upper body of a man. 

 

well its in the front, what i meant was whats holding it in place? so its like a apron in the front but how is it fastened in the back?


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Sorry if you closed the book on this Thaimer but have you consider making the Possessed backpack into a duel exhaust? That could be cool and give a unique profile. He's already leagues above so I think you have the artistic license to do whatever you like at this point. Great work!
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Looking at the third artwork (which i think looks closer to your current model than the second artwork), the flayed skin looks like its attached slightly above the waist. I think rivets would look nice for attaching, another possible idea would be attaching with meat hooks. If you were looking for reference pictures about the slung bolter, Nemac Vradon has a nice picture in his Night Lords thread on pg11. 


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Why would you mount it on the back? Isn't his flayed skin purely a frontal, apron kinda thing? It seems to me it's made up of the skin of the upper body of a man. 

 

well its in the front, what i meant was whats holding it in place? so its like a apron in the front but how is it fastened in the back?

 

 

I'd have it just nailed/pinned onto his armour; check out the terror squad and FW Night Lord stuff for ideas. I certainly wouldn't have it tied like an apron... ;) I also wouldn't go too literal with the art work, it'd look odd having half a man swinging from the hips.......

 

Option 1 seems a solid choice, I appreciate he's not a total cripple and can still put up a fight, but you really need to encapsulate the twisted and broken nature of him in the pose.


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Sorry if you closed the book on this Thaimer but have you consider making the Possessed backpack into a duel exhaust? That could be cool and give a unique profile. He's already leagues above so I think you have the artistic license to do whatever you like at this point. Great work!


havent made a final decision yet on the backpack, currently im making one and if thats no good ill kill my possesed backpack and use that.

Looking at the third artwork (which i think looks closer to your current model than the second artwork), the flayed skin looks like its attached slightly above the waist. I think rivets would look nice for attaching, another possible idea would be attaching with meat hooks. If you were looking for reference pictures about the slung bolter, Nemac Vradon has a nice picture in his Night Lords thread on pg11.


meat hooks sounds awsome ut think it might be too small for me to do it justice, and i had a look at nemacs thread and its a really good example but wish he had a picture from the other side;)

Why would you mount it on the back? Isn't his flayed skin purely a frontal, apron kinda thing? It seems to me it's made up of the skin of the upper body of a man.

 
well its in the front, what i meant was whats holding it in place? so its like a apron in the front but how is it fastened in the back?
 
I'd have it just nailed/pinned onto his armour; check out the terror squad and FW Night Lord stuff for ideas. I certainly wouldn't have it tied like an apron... ;) I also wouldn't go too literal with the art work, it'd look odd having half a man swinging from the hips.......
 
Option 1 seems a solid choice, I appreciate he's not a total cripple and can still put up a fight, but you really need to encapsulate the twisted and broken nature of him in the pose.

i had a look at the nightlords on FW and most of them just hint that they are pinned down, so i will try to do something similar.


i made a ton of progress today and very eager to show it off when i get home.
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If it helps the meat hooks are from this part from the CSM sprues:

 

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Ignore the red lines, they were to show something previously. I will also try and get another picture from the other side if that would also help :)

 

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If it helps the meat hooks are from this part from the CSM sprues:
 
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Ignore the red lines, they were to show something previously. I will also try and get another picture from the other side if that would also help :)
 
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that be really helpful Nemac, and i been digging through my bitz box for that spike but havent found one yet.

the baner arm is so close to done all its missing is the elbow spikes, but ill share it with you anyways

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Beautiful work! It's amazing how you can get all the rivets to look so uniform and clean. If you actually do want to use hooks the CSM terminator trophy racks have quite a few hooks. Using a paperclip or solid wire (not multi stranded) could work too.

 

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That banner arm is looking incredible!

 

I'd like to offer one particular consideration when it comes to reproducing the artwork: I get why you are trying to stay as close to the art as possible, but I'd like to point out that it can make sense (and be rather rewarding) to deviate from the art, especially when the original sources are as ambiguous as most of the old Horus Heresy art. As long as you get the key touches right, making a couple of tweaks here and there's not a problem. And in the end, the best approach - in my opinion - is to make the model a compromise between what's depicted in the art and what works in model form.

 

This guy already perfectly reads as Maloghurst, and there's very little you could do to change that, so it's perfecty okay to take a step away from the art here and there or to not beat yourself up about whether it's two or four vents on the backpack, for instance ;)

 

Anyway, you are doing a great job with this guy anyway, but I just thought I should point that out! ;)


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still preparing for war, been finishing up my builds and writing down my army list for the upcomming tournement.
i have finshed up my squad of 16 chaos chosen made from csm and warriors of chaos.
sadly ran out of the right shoulderpads and heads but did all i could.

have a look.

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i like the one with raised bolter, but the idea of them marching in lockstep and showing fown anyone in the way.
painting my knight and will do oblits after

 

 

Way off into the distant past but wondering how you merged the CSM/WOC kits so well? Something I'm thinking of doing myself



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my first post got eaten by to warp so redoing it :P


Beautiful work! It's amazing how you can get all the rivets to look so uniform and clean. If you actually do want to use hooks the CSM terminator trophy racks have quite a few hooks. Using a paperclip or solid wire (not multi stranded) could work too.
 
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thanks alot and the rivits i think its just luck, not sure ill be needing the hooks might just go without.




That banner arm is looking incredible!
 
I'd like to offer one particular consideration when it comes to reproducing the artwork: I get why you are trying to stay as close to the art as possible, but I'd like to point out that it can make sense (and be rather rewarding) to deviate from the art, especially when the original sources are as ambiguous as most of the old Horus Heresy art. As long as you get the key touches right, making a couple of tweaks here and there's not a problem. And in the end, the best approach - in my opinion - is to make the model a compromise between what's depicted in the art and what works in model form.
 
This guy already perfectly reads as Maloghurst, and there's very little you could do to change that, so it's perfecty okay to take a step away from the art here and there or to not beat yourself up about whether it's two or four vents on the backpack, for instance ;)
 
Anyway, you are doing a great job with this guy anyway, but I just thought I should point that out! ;)


thanks KS, i get what you are saying and i am diviating a little, the model pose and everything is all part of my own twists, the right knee design is a mix of the two artworks and my own, it just feels right to get as much from the artwork as i can and then instead of removing then adding, like the sword im working on but i really wanted to capture the essence of the character, thank you again for all the good advice KS.

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i have finshed up my squad of 16 chaos chosen made from csm and warriors of chaos.
sadly ran out of the right shoulderpads and heads but did all i could.
have a look.9A9A827D-DD89-44AC-8251-CE41393662B8.jpg4DAED394-042C-4EA6-B1FB-EA99B4254F4D.jpgEA300F0E-29F8-4DE8-A9F0-3E097AE59276.jpg171435D1-E031-4FC4-86F1-891C89BA7461.jpgC2A411A9-6B67-45A7-BB7A-A49F3C08358B.jpg8C872A7D-8FC7-421D-9193-4F134387BE96.jpg835A1844-6CED-414F-911C-89CDBFA7FB63.jpg59829A2C-762B-48C6-8503-9B0704EBB696.jpg
i like the one with raised bolter, but the idea of them marching in lockstep and showing fown anyone in the way.
painting my knight and will do oblits after

 
 
Way off into the distant past but wondering how you merged the CSM/WOC kits so well? Something I'm thinking of doing myself

its been so long i can arely remember how i did them, but i need to do four or five more at some point, all i do remeber for certain was that cutting them below the knee and adding the shins and feel of csm worked best on some i cut away the front part of the chest and replaced it with csm chest to make them look less like fantasy armour, also slimming the cloaks cutting in the folds and smoothing it so it e easyer to add shoulderpads on top( rook alot of cutting and filing to make the pads fit) but if you need any help when you try just give me a shout and ill do my best to help out.

on the maloghurst front or back rather i finished the first backpack i like to k ow what you all think is it good enough or should i scrap it and start working on the possesed backpack?

this is ased on a mk 4 and vents from two chaos backpacks

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I like this one, I'm not so sure about the two thin cables it has in the upper part but everything else looks spot on, great work as always!
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That backpack looks great. Can we see it blutac'ed on Maloghurst?


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Backpack's looking great. I'll admit I'm a big fan of symmetry, so those wires on top drive me crazy, but they don't look bad by any means. I think you're pulling it off. 

 

I second wanting to see it tacked onto him, though!


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That backpack looks great. Can we see it blutac'ed on Maloghurst?


okay here you go

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Arms will determine how balanced it looks in the end, but right now that looks aaawesoooome!
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Perfect brother, just perfect! The amount of effort you've put in this model is astonishing, I wouldn't have the patience for it... The flayed skin gives him a sinester look which perfectly matches the fluff and the model itself is full of personality, excelent job!
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That backpack is looking excellent buddy, he's really coming together now. :tu:
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I think you should change the name of this thread to "Khorne Done Right." No matter what you post there is no question of which god they worship!

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Arms will determine how balanced it looks in the end, but right now that looks aaawesoooome!


working on the finishing touches on those, will post as soon as possible.


Perfect brother, just perfect! The amount of effort you've put in this model is astonishing, I wouldn't have the patience for it... The flayed skin gives him a sinester look which perfectly matches the fluff and the model itself is full of personality, excelent job!


thanks traitor, i am a little proud of it :) but its been fun, and stressful now i realize that i need him this weekend for event.


That backpack is looking excellent buddy, he's really coming together now. :tu:


thanks bio, it really feels like it.

seems like the backpack have been approved, ill see if i cant get him all finished tonight and take a picture or two.

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hopefully i e able to post more pictures today, and if i have time he be painted before the weekend

"When we reap their flesh our enemies weakens, when we feed on their soulsour resolve strengthen, but our hunger is never sated and our enemies shall know no peace."My W.I.P Chaos Space Marine thread : Balefire Legion

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Nice stuff! You've even managed to make the skin arm not look comical like it does in the pic!! I still prefer the possessed backpack, but hey ho, you can't please everyone!!

 

He is looking pretty awesome - you just need to do the Mournival now.....


 

 

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