For anybody interested in joining the Project that was born from this thread of glorious ideas, see this post for details!
I think there is some sort of taboo on this subject, but I'm dismissing it because I know quite a few people on this forum can have a healthy conversation on this topic. What I want to discuss isn't what is more impactful or important, nature or nurture, but how both, of varying portions, influenced and affected the Primarchs in their formative years, and how that impacts their respective Legions. The purpose is for us to come to a deeper understanding of the Primarchs, to become acquainted with them in ways Black Library and Forgeworld has not provided.
Often when this sort of topic gets brought up, it tends to lead into a 'what if' discussion. If Guilliman and Angron had been switched, would either of them have been any different? I would like for us to focus on that. Take a Primarch, give him a new homeworld and follow that idea to its conclusion. What do you think would stay the same? What would be different? What would that mean for their Legions, once discovered? I'm not looking for a consensus here, there are no right answers. There can't be, this is just our opinions and imaginations trying to extrapolate deeper meanings. Some changes might be drastic, like any circumstance where it is a different Primarch than Horus found first. The purpose of this is not to explore an alternate heresy or reality within 40k. It is just to discuss possibilities that deepen our understanding of their canon portrayal.
Here is this thread's current list of touched upon Primarchs and Homeworlds.
I - Palatine Jonson - Mundus Planus
II - *record deleted?*
III - Fulgrim Dragonslayer - Medusa
IV - Perturabo - Chemos
VI - Leman Goldenbeard - fleet of unknown origins
VII - Rogal Dorn - Nostromo
VIII - Konrad Dominus - Baal / Nusku - Nocturne / Konrad Phaeron - Colchis
IX - Sanguinius - Colchis
XI - *record deleted?*
XII - Angron - Macragge
XIII - Roboute Barabus - Barbarus
XIV - Mortarion - Olympia
XV - Magnus the Red-Maned - Caliban
XVI - Lupercal - Liberation
XVII - Lorgar Cleftjaw - Fenris
XVIII - Anubis - Prospero
XIX - Lanista Corax - Nuceria
XX - Alpharius/Omegon - Cthonia
Declared for/Incomplete/Just plain mentioned:
Ferrus Manus - Nyceria
Jagad Tai - Inwit
However, nobody should be restricted to that list. Ultimately, I'd like each Primarch to have a discussion of multiple Homeworlds. The thing I want to see is what each of us think is inherent in the Primarch regardless of origins, and how much of it we think is integral to that Primarch. To single some folks out that I know are common lurkers and posters, I'd like to see 1000heathens' take on a Perturabo that has no dictator to overthrow, just a losing battle for survival, like Ferrus Manus dealt with on Medusa. I'd like to see Wade Garrett consider the idea of Lorgar being born on a world that doesn't want or need a saviour king, but has its own set of unique beliefs and creeds that support it, such as on Fenris. I'd like to see Kol Saresk discuss Konrad Curze's landing upon a world where the only crimes perpetrated upon it are those of an alien breed, such as Nocturne. I'd like to see furioso-prime put his bromarch on a world of psychics, when he is not so blatantly sorcerous himself. I'd like to see Kasper_Hawser, a new face but one eager to understand his favored Primarch, to discuss how much of Leman Russ would change if it had been he who landed upon the blood red sands of Nuceria's gladiator rings. There are plenty others I'm forgetting but I hope everyone is willing to join in.
To begin, I'd like to look at Sanguinius landing upon Colchis. On Baal, Sanguinius was more the saviour on Baal, unlike Lorgar the Messiah. On Colchis, Sanguinius would be both. He also has visions of the future and would likely know of the Emperor's potential return. Living on a world of holiness, Sanguinius could likely be seen as an Angel in full religious truth. This is a world that idolizes the Warp and the Chaos Pantheon. His mutation would be a mark of the gods. He'd be paraded around, his darker desires (the origins of the Rage and Thirst) catered to at every corner, rather than being shamefully hidden. Like Lorgar, he would likely inspire a worship of the Emperor. But this would be a Sanguinius who would not think to limit his darker self. He'd be raised on a world that celebrates that sort of thing, which would leave him unprepared for the Imperium, which would not. It is entirely possible that this Sanguinius would fall Traitor, as he would be surrounded by Chaos and its worship, even after inspiring wars of faith when he reveals the coming of a God in Gold. That said, unlike Lorgar I don't see Sanguinius as being as desperate for something to believe in. Sanguinius might follow Lorgar's steps in the beginning, but the Monarchia-parallel would probably be a diverging point between the two. However, I believe his fears stated in Fear to Tread might be more likely to be realized if born on Colchis. Initially, it would be difficult for him to adapt to the Imperium and likely knowledge of his flaws would become much more publicly known.
Edited by Cormac Airt, 18 February 2014 - 10:00 PM.