Khorne's Eternal Hunt - KrautScientist's chaotic WIP thread: Fine-tuning Eightbound...

[Ammonius]

Oh! Now that I am home and can compare more directly I see that I had misidentified the base cultist! I thought you had cut up the pirate Champion model. Yeah I would never have thought to take a knife to the one you used because he's one of my favorites. It was the buckle on the coat flap that gave it away. :)

[Darth Mustard]

I really like the trencher conversion

It has a real steampunk vibe that I really dig

The helmet really works

The posture is completely natural

Well done Sir!

[Hyaenidae]

Your work is always inspiring, but this guy....

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/15/603667-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Elite%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Stormtrooper.JPG

 

 

...is Grade A :cuss ing awesome. May I kidnap this idea for my Iron Warriors?

[KBA]

Agreed. Loving the WWI Canadian Stormtrooper vibe that model has.

[Brother Heinrich]

Lol, what heathens said. If I ever start using cultists, I know where I'm getting my inspiration.

[KrautScientist]

Cheers for the positive feedback, guys! I am rather happy with the trencher, as it happens. I also think I'll be keeping the rifle as is -- there's just too much of a risk to mess it up becond repair. After experimenting with a bayonet, thereby making the rifle far too long and throwing off the model's entire composition, I think I'll just give him a trench knife by way of the daggers that come with the Tempestus Scions. Anyway, expect to see more of this model soon

 

@ 1000heathens: Well, I am quite honoured you should like the model so much, heathens! Feel free to use the idea and inspiration as you see fit! The same goes for the rest of you, of course. On a related note, I would really love to see professional, faceless soldiers used as IW cultists (or allies) for once, and I think the Scions provide the perfect conversion fodder for that.

 

However, let me add one more level of complexity to the business of building cool stormtroopers: Again, I am really happy with the Tempestus Scions and the conversion and kitbashing options they provide, and my experimentation continues. But my love for the kit notwithstanding, let me discuss yet another source for possible conversions. As you will see, this is clearly not a case of favouring one kit (or manufacturer) over the other, but rather an attempt at outlining several, partly interlocking approaches for building just the Stormtroopers and elite soldiers you need:

Quite some time ago, I participated in a Kickstarter to make some of Mark Mondragon’s designs available in glorious plastic. The kits coming out of this Kickstarter, namely the different plastic Titans and the Eisenkern Stormtroopers, were one of my favourite hobby releases in 2013, as some may recall. And it’s the latter of the two I would like to talk about:

The Eisenkern Stromtroopers provide an alternate set of models for your Imperial Guard. Granted, these are not GW models, so you won’t be able to use them in any GW events or GW stores, but the models are still definitely nice enough to showcase them here! As a matter of fact, I was already feeling bad for not making the time to talk about them in more detail earlier, but now it turns out that the opportunity to discuss them back to back with the new Tempestus Scions is just the perfect way of taking a closer look at the kit. So let’s look at both kits, shall we:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603900-Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Kitbashing%2C%20Stormtrooper.jpg

On their own, the Eisenkern Stormtroopers provide a kit for making very cool looking elite soldiers with a very distinct WWII vibe. Incidentally, the background of the Eisenkern faction basically has them as “Germans IN SPACE!” (and the name certainly is a dead giveaway…). My personal reason for supporting their creation in plastic was that they really reminded me of the Wolf Brigade in Jin-Roh, but those designs were of course based on historical German uniforms again, so it’s a bit of a circular argument.

Anyway, the kit comes with so many options for customisation that it’s almost ridiculous, and these options are further multiplied if you decide to purchase an additional set of conversion and equipment bitz, giving you lots and lots of different weapons, heads, hands and various gear. Therefore, the humble test model pictured above is really just the tip of the iceberg.

Here’s a scale comparison with the Tempestus Scions:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603901_sm-Comparison%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Games%20Workshop.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603902_sm-Comparison%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Games%20Workshop.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603903_sm-Comparison%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Games%20Workshop.jpg

As you can see, both models are more or less of the same height: The Eisenkern Stormtrooper is ever so slightly taller, yet less bulky than the Tempestus Scion. From a structural perspective, there are quite a few parallels, though, ranging from the body armour and rebreather helmets to the power plant-like section on the model’s back.

The overall look is still ever so slightly different, though: Where the Tempestus Scions are full-out baroque and grimdark, the Eisenkern models are more hi-tech, albeit with a clear retro element.

But let’s look at some more scale pictures, this time with a “regular” IG model, a cultist and an Astartes as additional parts of the comparison:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603904_sm-Comparison%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Games%20Workshop.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603905_sm-Comparison%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Games%20Workshop.jpg

As you can see, both Stormtrooper models nicely fit into the gap between “regular” humans and Astartes: While both are basically just as tall as a regular Marine, the added bulkiness still nicely separates the Astartes from the unaugmented models.

One obvious problem with the Eisenkern models lies in the slightly more realistic (and less “heroic”) proportions when compared to GW kits. While this certainly isn’t a shortcoming per se, it can become a bit of a problem when trying to combine the Eisenkern models with GW bitz.

For instance, where the Tempestus Scion bodies will happily accept even Marine heads with a bit of cutting, even fairly slender heads like the wolf scout head pictured below will look slightly too clunky on an Eisenkern Trooper:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603906-Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Kitbashing%2C%20Stormtrooper.jpg

That said, some heads work better than others: I have collected some cases where the GW heads worked reasonably well below:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603907-Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Kitbashing%2C%20Stormtrooper.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603908-Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Kitbashing%2C%20Stormtrooper.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603909-Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Kitbashing%2C%20Stormtrooper.jpg

In any case, the important thing to keep in mind here is that these parts certainly weren’t designed to be mixed, so the fact that it still works out in some cases should be treated more like a bonus — but more on that in a minute.

The main problem from a design perspective is that the Eisenkern Stormtroopers are far less useful for “classic” chaos than the Tempestus Scions, because the smooth lines are not nearly baroque and archaic enough for your average traitor guard, whereas the extra decoration on the Scions makes them very chaos-y right out of the box. The common Eisenkern Stormtrooper fares less well when combined with chaos bitz.

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603916-Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper.jpg


But, again, this is obviously not really a fault of the kit itself: It wasn’t even designed to allow for shenanigans like that.

The big surprise, then, is that the Eisenkern Stormtroopers work amazingly well with the Tempestus Scion heads:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603917-Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper.jpg

The beret heads from the Scions are perfect for Eisenkern officers — and actually much better than the somewhat generic bare heads that come with the Eisenkern kit (one of the few failings of an otherwise brilliant kit, I might add).

The same goes for the helmeted Scion heads:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603918-Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper.jpg

And finally, the beret head with gas mask, one of the coolest heads in the kit anyway, is pretty much the perfect officer head for an Eisenkern Stormtrooper. Take a look:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603919-Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603920-Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper.jpg

Quite a nice reward for the adventurous kitbasher, don’t you think? Plus this information might be interesting both for those who are contemplating a purchase of the Eisenkern Stormtroopers as well as those who already own the kit and want to tie it in with their IG army: Just get some Tempestus Scion heads, and you’re golden

Another interesting fact: Female Eisenkern models will eventually be available, filling a  gap GW’s catalogue has mostly refused to address so far: Here’s a regular Eisenkern trooper next to Kickstarter exclusive model Ada:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603921_sm-Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper.JPG

So which one should you choose?

I’ll be honest with you, I couldn’t even tell you which kit is the better one, because a) both are awesome and which is better for you depends on what you are looking for: Both kits are great and, in their respective ways, provide great value for the money. The best possible approach would be to ask yourself what kind of Stormtrooper you are looking for and make your decision from there (or, of course, to just buy a box of each):

Do you want your Stormtroopers visually in line with the eclectic, sometimes outlandish and anachronistic 40k universe? Do you love the little medieval and renaissance touches and are looking for colourful models that channel this particular part of the setting? Then the Tempestus Scions are your thing.

Do you want slightly more futuristic, tactical looking troopers without too many baroque design elements but a noticeable retro feel and tons and tons of options (you can actually use the accessory sprue to build models conversing in SWAT-like sign language, for crying out loud!)? Great, the Eisenkern Stormtroopers are the kit for you.

But even if you come down on either side of this argument, the other kit would still be an awesome purchase. And, owning both kits, I am perfecly sure that I am going to have lots of fun with both types of models.

In the end, it’s really all about being aware of all the options, and that’s what this post is about too: Describing more options for you. In any case, you way want to check out the Dreamforge Games website — chances are, you’ll find something to like there. At the same time, I cannot recomment the Tempestus Scions enough: They are an amazing kit and quite reasonably priced for GW’s standards.

Anyway, so much for the latest Stormtrooper conversion related shenanigans: Expect to see more from the Trencher model and traitor elites really soon!

And, as always, thanks for looking and stay tuned for more!

Edited April 16, 2014 by KrautScientist

[KrautScientist]

So, another rather sizeable update today: Let's take a look at the (mostly) completed models so far, shall we. Before we do that, though...


1. By request...

...some people suggested I show them a couple of additional headswaps, and how could I refuse? I’ll be keeping this short and to the point, though

First up, in case you wondered what the scion heads looked like on bog standard Cadians:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604168-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Cadians%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Tempestus%20Scions%2C%20Work%20In%20Progress.JPG

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604170-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Cadians%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Tempestus%20Scions%2C%20Work%20In%20Progress.jpg

They are actually a perfect fit: You need to shave down the neck portion, though — which I failed to do for the above pictures, hence the slightly hokey proportions. But from a scale perspective, I think you’ll agree that it should work. And while I was at it, I also tried an Eisenkern Stormtrooper head on a Cadian body…

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604169_sm-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Cadians%2C%20Eisenkern%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Work%20In%20Progress.jpg

…and it instantly created that wonderful Jin-Roh look. Even more cutting involved in this case, though, because the neck portion on those Eisenkern heads is huge.

Oh, and while we’re at it, here’s the Eisenkern head on a regular Tempestus Scion, for the sake of completeness:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604171-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Eisenkern%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Tempestus%20Scions%2C%20Work%20In%20Progress.JPG

This may actually be one of my favourite combinations so far! Unfortunately, the fact that the Eisenkern heads only come as part of the larger kit and that you only get just enough heads, this kind of conversion is hardly economical. But if you should find yourself in the possession of some leftover Eisenkern heads, it’s definitely a very interesting option!


2. Straight from the trenches…

I applied the finishing touches to my trencher model. So here it is, ready for painting:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604147-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.JPG

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604148-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604149-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604150-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604151-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.jpg

Additional bitz are a backpack with an entrenching tool (a bit of a no brainer, really) and a trench knife (one of the daggers from the Tempestus Scions). Like I said earlier, my experiments in creating a bayonet for the rifle fell flat: While it was easy enough to attach a blade to the rifle, the barrel ended up looking way too long, thereby throwing off the model’s whole composition. However, I believe that the dagger, worn to be quickly available during combat, works well enough as a replacement.

To tell you the truth, I am stupidly happy with this guy, since he is both suitably grimdark and reminiscent of actual trenchers as well as those Warzone minis I keep going on about. I hope to be able to paint him sooner rather than later — a suitable base, complete with duckboards and a muddy surface, has already been built.

Once again, let me show you some possible, different heads for the model, in case you’re going for a different, maybe even more medieval feel:

While the head I used on the model was spliced together from a Bretonnian helmet and a Tempestus Scion head, the heads from the Bretonnian Men-at-arms can also be used on their own:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604153-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.jpg

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604154-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.jpg

I actually think those work just as well, and would basically be ideal if you were after building, say, a Genswick IG force.

I also tried the head with mask and beret from the scion kit…

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604155-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.jpg

…and it looks just as awesome as it did when used on the Eisenkern Stormtrooper I posted earlier. I have a sneaking suspicion that this head will always look awesome, no matter the model you use it on.

And finally, another really cool option would be to use an Eisenkern head:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604152-Astra%20Militarum%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Imperial%20Guard%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.JPG


3. Meanwhile, back ar the Archenemy camp…

During all those head swaps, though, let’s not forget the intended use for my first batch of Tempestus Scions: I want to turn them into a squad of elite soldiers for Urash’s Marauders. So, any progress on that? You bet!

For instance, after finishing my first test model (to be found further up in this thread), I have begun working on a second traitor and have also made a first mockup of the squad’s champion (or should that be Damogaur?):

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604157-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.jpg


In this case, the scion chainsword was replaced with a suitably chaotic sabre from the Dark Vengeance cultist champion. The head with the grotesk came from the same model. And while a laspistol may not be the most exciting equipment for a squadleader, I chose the arm for its pose, at least for now. One of the two small shortcomings of the Tempestus Scions, in my opinion, are the sometimes freakishly long arms, so choosing a combination that looks right takes some doing (on a semi-related note, those cables connecting the rifles and backpacks are the other element I don’t like: Getting all those parts lined up just so without gluing the model together outright is very fiddly business…).

Anyway, this guy isn’t finished yet, but I think the model will already give you a pretty good idea of where this is going. Here are the three WIP models for the squad together:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604158_sm-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

That’s not all, however: Since the scion kit contains so many bitz, there are enough leftovers to use on different models as well. As I told you in my previous post, I will be using some of these bitz to build some more traitor elites, mostly based on some Vraksian Renegade Militia torsos.

You already know the voxcaster guy:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/15/603665-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Tempestus%20Scions.JPG

And I also found out that the rifle arms work fairly well on those Vraksian torsos:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604159-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

By combining these bitz, the model looks a bit like a missing link between a Tempestus Scion and one of my regular traitors, which could signify the encroaching influence of chaos, I suppose?

A third model uses the plasma gunner arms from the scions for now. Here are the three traitors together:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604161_sm-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

I also built another champion/squadleader model that I am really happy with. Take a look:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604162-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604163-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604164-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

The torso came from the Vraksian Enforcers, while the legs are from a WFB chaos charioteer: Both bits were leftovers of earlier conversions, so it was really nice to finally put them to good use! The arms are from the Tempestus Scions, although the weapons and hands were replaced (with a Space Marine Scout pistol and chaos warrior sword, respectively). The head came from a Dark Vengeance plastic cultist. And I also added some additional pouches and gear:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604165-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

This model takes quite a bit of inspiration from PDH’s traitor soldiers which range among my favourite renegade models. I am really happy with how this model has turned out, because it really fits my idea of Traitor Guard to a t!

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604167-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

And here are all the “Vraksian bases” traitors so far: Keep in mind that these were all basically made from leftovers from my bitzbox:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/17/604166_sm-Chaos%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Renegade%20Militia%2C%20Renegades%2C%20Traitor%20Guard.JPG

What I especially like about these models is that they could arguably be used alongside the scion-based traitors in one large squad – granted, there’s a bit of variation, but that’s chaos for you – but they could also be the beginnings of a second squad of traitor elites.


So yeah, after all the headswapping businesss, I hope I’ve managed to convince you that some actual models will be coming out of this in the end! I would love to hear your feedback on any of these!

As always, thanks for looking and stay tuned for more!

Edited April 17, 2014 by KrautScientist

[Chaeron]

It's funny how menacing the eyes look when combined with the other heretical swaps. Lovely!

[KrautScientist]

Thanks a lot, Chaeron!

[daemonclaw]

this is fast becoming a very informative thread ,nice work brother

[Scribe]

Some great information there for sure. I'm trying to find an appropriate rabble like Cultist, compared to what imo would be 'elite' like these guys, but I am liking the use of the scion kit for sure.

[KrautScientist]

Cheers, guys!

 

@ Scribe of Khorne: There are quite a few viable options for rabble: The DV plastic cultists really look the part, or you could get a box of flagellants, Cadians each to kitbash some suitable models. Splicing in some more exotic bitz (undead, especially Crypt Ghouls, Bretonnian Men-at-arms) should work really well too! I am currently thinking of actually building some picketeers, in order to show rioters from the actual beginning of an uprising, where everything started as some kind of workers protest or something similar...

[Scribe]

Yeah thats the trick, getting the weapons/tools into their hands. If there is a kit out there with auto-pistols or equivalent I just havent seen or thought of it yet. I've got plenty of bodies, from the DV set and was just going to start hacking things up, but that seems lacking in elegence. :p

[RolandTHTG]

Yeah thats the trick, getting the weapons/tools into their hands. If there is a kit out there with auto-pistols or equivalent I just havent seen or thought of it yet. I've got plenty of bodies, from the DV set and was just going to start hacking things up, but that seems lacking in elegence.

Zinge Industries has several nice weapons

http://zinge.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=20

[KrautScientist]

@ Scribe of Khorne: Well, hacking things up is an integral part of the hobby to me, so I don't really see it as lacking in elegance. What's great about those DV cultists is that they are really easy to convert, too! My first squad was built right out of the box (a head and weapon swap on the champ notwithstanding):

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/10/12/420623-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Cultists%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance%2C%20Starter%20Box%2C%20Traitor%20Guard%2C%20Traitors.JPG

 

For my second squad, I just swapped around some heads and added a handful of external bitz for some variety:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2012/11/8/429182-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Cultists%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Cultist%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance%2C%20Warhammer%2040%2C000.JPG

 

You can also really influence these guys' look according to your wishes: Want mutant rabble? Add some crypt ghoul heads or Beastman parts. Want workers rabble? Just add some shovels from IG kits or convert some of the weapons into heavy duty tools:

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2013/2/10/462268-Chainsaw%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Dark%20Vengeance%2C%20Eviscerator%2C%20Industrial%20Saw%2C%20Inq28.JPG

 

The same goes for Zombies, Genestealer cultists,...

 

As for possible sources for autopistols: Another option would be to get your hands one some of the plastic starter models from Necromunda: Those shouldn't be too hard to find on ebay, and while the models haven't aged terribly well, they come with autoguns, stubbers,... -- you name it.

[Kharnaak]

this makes me want to convert my cultists that I haven't touched yet love that chainsaw guy

[KrautScientist]

Yeah, every self-respecting chaos player should own a chainsaw model of some sort, if you ask me ;)

[KrautScientist]

So, as luck would have it, an order I had placed with a bitz seller on ebay was delievered today, on the last day of my Easter vacation, and I couldn't help messing around with the bitz: This guy pretty much came together just like that, easy as pie:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/23/606070-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt%2C%20Kitbash.JPG

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/23/606072-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt%2C%20Kitbash.JPG

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/23/606071-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt%2C%20Kitbash.JPG

I have to give credit where credit is due, though: The idea for replacing the blade on that Deathwing axe was nicked from AMaximus, and the brilliant use of Warp Talon toes on Chaos Termninator gauntlets was suggested by fellow hobbyist Lucutus. Oh, and the model above will probably be named Raas the Butcher, as a shout out to Augustus B'Raass, who was nice enough to feature a namesake of mine in the fluff for his spectacular Night Lords contemptor.

Anyway, let me know what you think!  :thumbsup:

[Skrundle87]

So very cool indeed, the raptor claws are quite genious Edited April 23, 2014 by Skrundle87

[Jofus]

Yeah thats the trick, getting the weapons/tools into their hands. If there is a kit out there with auto-pistols or equivalent I just havent seen or thought of it yet. I've got plenty of bodies, from the DV set and was just going to start hacking things up, but that seems lacking in elegence. :p

Forge World sells some auto-pistols for the chaos renegades, but it is a pack of 10 arm sets with 3 auto-pistols, 6 autoguns,and 2 special weapons I think.

[Augustus b'Raass]

So,

 

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I have to give credit where credit is due, though: The idea for replacing the blade on that Deathwing axe was nicked from AMaximus, and the brilliant use of Warp Talon toes on Chaos Termninator gauntlets was suggested by fellow hobbyist Lucutus. Oh, and the model above will probably be named Raas the Butcher, as a shout out to Augustus B'Raass, who was nice enough to feature a namesake of mine in the fluff for his spectacular Night Lords contemptor.

 

Anyway, let me know what you think!  :thumbsup:

Wow! Raas is looking like a beast! I am most honoured that you name him after me. Seems appropriate that he'll be a Khorne character - as Augustus b'Raass has been the name of my Khorne Lords since I was 16.

[Yogi]

 

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http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603900-Conversion%2C%20Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper%2C%20Kitbashing%2C%20Stormtrooper.jpg

 

 

 

For some reason this model makes me think of a female soldier. 

[Augustus b'Raass]

Why is everybody so obsessed with boobies lately? 

[Forté]

Why is everybody so obsessed with boobies lately?

Lately?

[KrautScientist]

Cheers, guys! ;)

 

I would leave you to your wet dreams and all, but I feel I need to keep some kind of stewardship of this thread after all ;)

 

@ Augustus B'Raass: The honour is well deserved, mate, both for the extremely inspirational models as well as sparking a rather interesting discussion. It goes without saying that Raas the Butcher's backstory will mention his extreme cruelty and need to dismember his victims ;)

 

@ Yogi: I think the rather slender build of the Eisenkern models may be to blame for that. That said, it's important to note that female Eisenkern troops are on the way:

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/16/603921_sm-Dfg%2C%20Dreamforge%20Games%2C%20Eisenkern%20Stormtrooper.JPG

 

Oh, and while this may be slightly off topic in a thread dedicated to chaos, maybe this WIP picture of a plastic Battle Sister I recently kitbashed will provide you with the boobs you so desire?

 

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2014/4/21/605366-Adepta%20Sororitas%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Inq28%2C%20Inquisimunda%2C%20Inquisitor%2C%20Inquisitor%2028.JPG