Augustus b'Raass Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I found that sculpting a rock with greenstuff and milliput, combined with corck chunks works well, especially if you drape it with PVA and sand. Perhaps that'll create a good base... for the base? Love to see what you come up with. It will be awesome, cause my trust in your abilities is pretty much absolute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Loving your work as always KrautS. I agree that the legs look a little off at the moment, but I think once the front legs are seen climbing over corpses on the base it could work. They just look odd on the currently flat surface, so I am looking forward to seeing how this goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Oh, he should totally be posed on a little hill of skulls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Cheers for the feedback, everyone! I will admit I couldn't see either of the other 'thirster heads on this beast... he would end up with a smooshed looking face like those little designer dogs... Glad you didn't go the Pugs 4 Khorne route Pugs for the Pug God? Great, now I cannot stop imagining a pug of Khorne, panting heavily as it runs - or rather, ambles - towards its prey. Thank you very much ;) You are all right about the base, and I will definitely be building something with cork, PVA glue, modeling sand and what have you. My current idea is to have a fallen Space Marine resting on the debris, with the Flesh Hound's head immediately above, so it looks as though the beast was just about to feed... Anyway, here's a size comparison with a regular Marine -- I've also snuck in a first piece of cork, although nothing has been glued down yet: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/15/705391-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Daemons%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Flesh%20Hound%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Work%20In%20Progress.JPG As you can see, the Flesh Hound is quite a beast... He won't become Lorimar's ride, though: I have a nice, bulky juggernaut set aside for that. If you ask me, Flesh Hounds with their very lithe bodies would seem pretty silly with a Terminator added on top ;) Oh, and while I am an ardent follower of the Blood God, you may be surprised to learn that I am not a big fan of skull bases or skull piles. The reason is...that they just don't make any damn sense: Unless you're basing your army to look like it's inhabiting some kind of daemon world, I can never tune out the question how those skulls got there in the first place: Did the model reap them? But then they wouldn't be bare bone (yet). Or have they been there for a long time? That would be even worse, because the model's just prancing around on a plain of skulls, likely in order to seem more bad ass -- I know, I know: This is the grimdark grimdarkness of the 41st millennium, and we shouldn't let realism intrude upon our hobby, but skull bases just raise way too many questions, in my opinion ;) In other news, I have returned to some older models in order to give them a tweak or two: First up, this Iron Warriors Warsmith: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/15/705390-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Iron%20Warriors%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Terminator%20Armor.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/15/705388-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Iron%20Warriors%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Terminator%20Armor.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/15/705389-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Lord%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Iron%20Warriors%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Terminator%20Armor.JPG I just keep coming back to this guy, changing details about the model (new pauldrons in this case), but this will be the last round of tweaks, because the Warsmith will serve as my test model for the new Leadbelcher spraypaint, before I (hopefully) use it on my Chaos Knight. And there's another prospective member of Lorimar's Terminator retinue, now with a new weapon: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/15/705393-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Red%20Butcher.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/15/705392-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%27s%20Eternal%20Hunt%2C%20Kitbash%2C%20Red%20Butcher.JPG The idea with Lorimar's retinue is that each of the members should have a distinct set of weapons (not because it would make any sense rules-wise, but rather to make these guys look more gladiatorial), and so I've added a meteor hammer to this model, courtesy of the new Skullreaper/Wrathmonger kit ;) Oh, and one last thing: Those of you who are interested in my "Glamour shot tutorial" for reference will find a touched up version of the post here. As always, let me know what you think! :) Flint13, Bryan Blaire, Battybattybats and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adra'Melek Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Agree with you on the skulls. On a daemon world which seems countless battles and bloodshed between followers of Khorne? Yes. Anywhere else and it's a bit daft (but then so much is in this crazy world we live in). How do the Skullreaper/Wrathmonger scale with Berserker/marine models? I seem to recal you saying you used them with Chosen, are they a different size? I'm planning on getting some but I'll not be getting the chosen so didn't want them too out of scale. Regarding the last guy, his pose seems a little off. He's stepping forward and looks like he should be swinging the meteor hammer but it's just dropping straight down. Is it possible to turn it a little so it's trailing (or am I talking complete nonsense?). Finally, all that talk about the Contemptor holding the large axe of Khorne from the Bloodthirster kit inspired me to give mine the two smaller axes. Really over sized but, as I said, cray world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yeah, the hammer hand looks a little strange to me too, but he does have promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Now all the internet shall know them as Glamour shots. My work here is done :D Also, is that new member of the retinue from a red butcher body? Its looking pretty boss. KrautScientist and Augustus b'Raass 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share Posted April 15, 2015 Now all the internet shall know them as Glamour shots. My work here is done Also, is that new member of the retinue from a red butcher body? Its looking pretty boss. Well, I did check out the various meanings of the term before calling my post like that, and it has been an...educational experience, to say the least o_O I was basically referring to the kind of terrible photos you can get taken at cheap photo studios, though, so it seems like a fitting title after all. And yes, that body came from the Red Butchers (wonderful models with a few terrible aspects that boggle the mind). One of the things a bit problematic about the body is the awkward pose: This guy really doesn't seem to know whether he's coming or going, and that's what makes adding weapon arms to him such a challenge. I agree that the meteor hammer may need more work, although I think that, at the very least, I may be on to something ;) Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Warsmith looks cool I like the hammer. The second guy is ok but the way he's posed you'd think his stones weapon would be a little less limp. Also I can't help but think he's overcompensating with that cod piece but then again this is my first time seeing that miniature. Cool stuff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 @ Kriegsmacht: Mate, I have nothing to do with that codpiece -- the Forgeworld guys did it ;) Anyway, I seem to be in building spree mode at the moment, so here is another conversion for you: My version of Lheorvine Ukris, a World Eater from ADB's "Talon of Horus" who steals quite a few scenes. Building Lheor seems a bit derivative, seeing how both InsanePsychopath and Flint13 have come up with stunning interpretations of the character, but then those two models were what inspired me to go for it in the first place -- I just couldn't resist ;) Here he is (still slightly WIP): http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/17/705724-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Havoc%2C%20Heavy%20Bolter%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Lheor%2C%20Lheorvine%20Ukris.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/17/705725-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Havoc%2C%20Heavy%20Bolter%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Lheor%2C%20Lheorvine%20Ukris.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/17/705726-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Havoc%2C%20Heavy%20Bolter%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Lheor%2C%20Lheorvine%20Ukris.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/17/705727-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Havoc%2C%20Heavy%20Bolter%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Lheor%2C%20Lheorvine%20Ukris.JPG Some parts of the model try to faithfully recreate the depiction of the character in the novel and accompanying artwork, but I did take some liberties: For instance, I ditched the aquila breastplate, because...well, screw aquila breastplates, alright? ;) Seriously, I just loved the "Great Crusade" look created by that particular torso, so I just rolled with it. Anyway, let me know what you think! http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/17/705728-Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Havoc%2C%20Heavy%20Bolter%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Lheor%2C%20Lheorvine%20Ukris.JPG Eberious, Flint13, Urauloth and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Yeah! Screw Acquila breast plates! Oh wait, Talos has one.... Frack that! Screw Acquila breast plates! ;) He looks killer. Gotta start reading that ToH HH book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Hmmmm I love the khorne helmet surround but a WE 30k helm would be far more intimidating don't you think? Edited April 17, 2015 by Kurama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Cheers for the feedback! :) @ Augustus b'Raass: Definitely go read that book, mate! I rocks! Hard! @ Kurama: Ummm...no, not really. Sorry, but I like that helmet much more than any 30k helmet, plus Lheor is described with a skull faced helm, so I think this is a pretty good fit, actually. miteyheroes 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thousand Eyes Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Ok can I please have some of bits box! The sheer amount of pieces you have combined and the way you do it is stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I know I just love the 30k helms when the bunny ears are attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Lheor looks great I like his helm. I'm a fan of the Berzerker helmets but this is showing me that they really need to redo the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Lerve dat Lheor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 If you were as good at rappning as you are at converting you'd be my favorite rapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 @ Kriegsmacht: Mate, I have nothing to do with that codpiece -- the Forgeworld guys did it Anyway, I seem to be in building spree mode at the moment, so here is another conversion for you: My version of Lheorvine Ukris, a World Eater from ADB's "Talon of Horus" who steals quite a few scenes. Building Lheor seems a bit derivative, seeing how both InsanePsychopath and Flint13 have come up with stunning interpretations of the character, but then those two models were what inspired me to go for it in the first place -- I just couldn't resist Lheor looking really cool KrautScientist & one my favrout memeber in Talons of Horus novel. Will you be converting the rest of his squad? Just thinking be good Havoc unit for you to have in your force? Like wise, Bloodborn unit we see in Khârn Eater of Worlds would be a pretty cool kill team unit :D I need to try get around & convert up Valicar "the graven" - IVth Legion, born of Terra. Guardian of the foundry world of Gallium & commander of the warship Thane. Just trying to work out how to convert the Bolter which is heavy mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targetlock Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 That is one great flesh hound conversion, i prefer over the GW ones which I also don't like. you could use it represent your own version of Karanak :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesGunn Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Got to chip in with the praise for the Flesh Hound Conversion. My first reaction when I saw it was of course combining a Dragon Ogre and the new Bloodthirster would work out like that! I think it's just an amazing idea you got there. Can't wait to see how it looks like with a full base. Edited April 19, 2015 by MosesGunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martox Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 So many ideas I want to unashamedly steal!First, echoing the consensus of the Flesh hound - brilliance. So much more imposing than the current finecast ones. I'd love to see a Karanak modelled using your method.Second - a question for you. Seeing your use of the Wrathmongers, I picked up a box for myself - more so for the plethora of Khorne parts originally. However, seeing the scale of the legs first hand - do you think it would be too far of a stretch to make unit champions from a mix of the Wrathmonger legs (sans the more daemonic ones, I'm totally stealing that idea for a Herald from you. I'm a horrible thief, I know.) with Terminator torsos cut down ala true-scaling methods by Doghouse and the others? I worry they might be too tall compared to the units they're in. Wouldn't mind some opinions on that before I go full tilt into it. Looking forward to seeing things progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 Cheers for the positive feedback, guys! I really appreciate it! :) @ InsanePsychopath: Hmm, I think Lheor will stay on his own (or rather, he'll be accompanied by a squad of original characters/Havocs). Having him as a part of my army makes no canonical sense whatsoever, and adding his buddies (who are probably all dead anyway) would complicate the issue even further. So he'll just be a lone character cameo in my corps of heavy weapon specialists. In other news, you aren't half-pressuring people into building those Bloodsword from Eater of Worlds, are you, mate? ;) @ Martox: As it happens, I have been playing around with the kind of conversions you mention, and can safely say that a) the Wrathmonger/Skullreaper torsos perfectly fit Chaos Terminator legs and b) Wrathmonger/Skullreaper legs also fit chaos Terminator torsos -- although the latter option will create a model with legs that are looking slightly too slender. I think it should be possible to alleviate the effect by adding some of the armour plates from the Skullreaper kit, though -- maybe I should post some of my findings here soon... Thousand Eyes 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTibbetts Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm excited to see what you're doing with the Wrathmonger/Skullreaper kit, man. If you can make terminator versions of your gladiator-style berzerkers, I think they'd look incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Cheers, Jeff! Funny you should mention the Skullreapers, as I do indeed have a new WIP to share with you today ;) But first, to give credit where credit is due, I have to say that the model I want to show you owes quite a lot to Martox' recent true scale Khornate Marine: I chose a similar approach to come up with my own true scaled World Eater. Take a look: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/25/707823-Art%20Scale%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%20Berzerker.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/25/707824-Art%20Scale%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%20Berzerker.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/25/707825-Art%20Scale%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%20Berzerker.JPG http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/25/707826-Art%20Scale%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%20Berzerker.JPG Just like Martox, I used a Chaos Terminator torso for the upper body, but I shaved mine down until it worked (and until the original Skullreaper breastplate fit over it). The axe was spliced together from a Chaos Terminator weapon and an axe from the Skullreaper kit. And the right pauldron came from a very sweet bitz package Augustus b'Raass sent me earlier this week (cheers, mate!). And here's a scale comparison shot showing the WIP World Eater next to my (pretty big) true scaled loyalist Marine: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/4/25/707827_sm-Art%20Scale%2C%20Chaos%2C%20Chaos%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Conversion%2C%20Khorne%2C%20Khorne%20Berzerker.JPG As always, let me know what you think! :) Commissar Molotov, Augustus b'Raass, Bryan Blaire and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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