teblin Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 If the new BA Codex has something similar to CT in the new Marine Codex, what would you like to see? Perhaps Hammer of Wrath being 2 attacks per model, or Feel no Pain in the first round of close combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickSamos Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Erm, how about the two special rules you already have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Assuming they don't get updated or replaced, which seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The latter would suck... im still hoping red thirst becomes the rage usr in its current incarnation perhaps in combo with furious charge on raven guard style jump pack use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The Blood Angels have an entire codex to themselves along with the Red Thirst which already affects nearly every model in your army. Why would you need Chapter Tactics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Every new Codex since 6th Ed has had some kind of unique element to it. Champion of Chaos, Battle Focus, CT, Powers of the Hive Mind, which didn't exist in the last version of that Codex (at least not in the same way). Why BA should be singled out as different from GW's codex writing style I don't see. Sure, they might keep it the same, but I'd be surprised if they chose not to change unique rules like they have with everyone else so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay170788 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 As space marines benefit with their special rules 100% of the time. Red Thirst is only activated 1 in 6 times. You thnk furious charge and fearless 1 time in 6 holds a candle to scars or iron hands or fists or ultras?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Also... our red thirst rule is strictly inferior to anything in the marine codex as we have only got a 1/6 chance per unit to even get it. Descent of angels is pretty good and id be surprised if we lost that. I could see us just having furious charge for all units at all times, but its still worse than anything marines get. Id wishlist for something that actually gives us an edge in CC, wolves have 3 attacks each first round due to gear loadout and counter attack whilst maintaining decent shooting, templars get access to a good weapon loadout for CC, ravenguard are better assault marines, sadly that also means most of the cool stuff is gone already lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickSamos Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Decent of Angels? Assault Marines as Troops? Red Thirst? That makes three special rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 And assuming none of those three will be updated or replaced when all other Codices so far have had that treatment seems peculiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay170788 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Decent of Angels? Assault Marines as Troops? Red Thirst? That makes three special rules... Sorry you have bikes as troops do you not? Also we have to assume Red Thirst doesn't exist. As it would be counter-productive to build a list around something that is more likely not to happen. At least you guys know what you have walking into a battle. We don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 What you are asking is what changes would people like to see in the 6th edition C:BA. "chapter tactics" are a way of differentiating "chapters" in C:SM. Different codices are codices, like C:DA, C:BA,C:SW. Points cost for units need to be brought in line with other 6th ed. books. Other than that nothing really comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 That's why I worded it as "something similar" to CT, rules that define the BA Chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That's why I worded it as "something similar" to CT, rules that define the BA Chapter. I don't know why I bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Nor me, the op was pretty clear with the purpose of the thread, so maybe dont next time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Nor me, the op was pretty clear with the purpose of the thread, so maybe dont next time? Chapter tactics is a C:SM thing. So for a post to ask for "Blood Angels chapter tactics" is confusing, I explained that. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 And the op initiated the thread by saying something similar to chapter tactics, which is totally fair enough, currently for BAs that would be the red thirst and descent of angels, one of which never comes into play for a BA mech lists and the other often never comes into play regardless (last 4 games, ive had 1 unit actually get the red thirst). Anyway yeah, cut the guy some slack, he was clear about what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 That's why I worded it as "something similar" to CT, rules that define the BA Chapter. I don't know why I bother. I'm not the dense one here if someone fails to recognise the difference between C:SM's Chapter tactics and BA receiving their own new special rules. And those rules, much like all the other special rules that are being released, would relate to BA. Exactly the same as the current BA Codex, but I am assuming that they'll be updated just like every other Codex so far post-6th Ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 And the op initiated the thread by saying something similar to chapter tactics, which is totally fair enough, currently for BAs that would be the red thirst and descent of angels, one of which never comes into play for a BA mech lists and the other often never comes into play regardless (last 4 games, ive had 1 unit actually get the red thirst). Anyway yeah, cut the guy some slack, he was clear about what he meant. Were was slack not given? I didn't point fingers and call names or make unreasonable demands. And even managed to reply to the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 That's why I worded it as "something similar" to CT, rules that define the BA Chapter. I don't know why I bother. I'm not the dense one here if someone fails to recognise the difference between C:SM's Chapter tactics and BA receiving their own new special rules. And those rules, much like all the other special rules that are being released, would relate to BA. Exactly the same as the current BA Codex, but I am assuming that they'll be updated just like every other Codex so far post-6th Ed. Who said you were dense? The was in regard to me. Not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenderDead Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I would like to see something totally new or possibly redo what we have to make it more an every game aspect (the red thirst), either way I am I'm cool with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septicon Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I would like to see: DOA remain. Something to boosts our initiative buy 1 or reduce our enemies by x amount on the turn we charge. Rage USR Although slightly off topic, my largest fear is that GW will make DC uncontrollable again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I think we will still have DOA (or something similar). If we keep DOA and Assault Marines as troops, then all we need is lowered costs and something to replace Red Thirst. 1/6 red thirst is a pointless rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 It wouldn't surprise me if DC got both rage and rampage. They'll probably get knocked down to one attack each because GW hates assault :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapelXIII Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I like DOA even though I don't use it much. I see us keeping that and I would be happy with it. The red thirst rule I don't like. The rule is really watered down especially compared to other chapters tactics. Maybe something about every turn on the roll of a one they have to charge if they can but gain fleet. I would also like to see a raven guard sort of jump pack rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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