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@Atia: Thanks, that's my first choice too. Phew! ;)

 

@KrautSCientist: Wow wow wow, buddy: the fluff says 'huge chainsword'. Not 'eviscerator'. A  huge sword could be interpreted as a chain glaive... I mean, the raptor chaiswords are already bigger than normal plastic chainswords, so why not add a huge handle on it too? ;) Also: I hate you with your awesome ideas. I immediately went looking for abby's topknot, which I know I still have somewhere. Luckily I couldn't find it, so that plan was dead in the water before it swam. Phew! The right one it will be! :tu:

 

@Eldrick Shadowblade: Cheers yourself buddy. Recipes for my painting can be found here. The heavy bolter daemon head bit is the end of the Chaos Knights musician's horn. And where can I find your oath broken?

 

@Teetengee: Rightmost it is! :tu:

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Not happy with putting us to shame with your brushing skills, now you actually do a walk through the GS+bits part and make us feel "fools" for just building the darn models...

 

SHAME ON YOU! :P

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OK, so Flint was totally (totes) right when she said Uzas' fleshy cloack wasn't ragged enough. I also thought it was kinda small. So I made a new one. Is this too thick or wlll it make do?

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Night%20Lords%20WIP/2015-03-04%2017.57.02_zpsulhssyrx.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Night%20Lords%20WIP/2015-03-04%2017.57.06_zps3ol3sfze.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Night%20Lords%20WIP/2015-03-04%2017.56.52_zpsy6dudnmi.jpg

 

@Tanhausen: It's not just me. All us chaos kids are like this. And we'll show you during this year's ETL. Again. :tongue.:

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It's kinda hard to say, actually: It does look a bit like a particularly distressed eiderdown duvet right now, but that may just be the fact that it's not painted...? In any case, it does seem a bit too thick for my taste. ! I'll be honest: I think it was fine before...

 

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...sorry, I'm not helping right now, am I?

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Certainly pointed in the right direction! The ragged part looks much better. I think it would be perfect if it were half as thick.

 

Right now it looks like rhino hide ^_^

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Update time! With: 90% WIP Talos, New cloak for Uzas, and a concept WIP for Xarl.

 

First up is Talos! I thought long and hard about him. I wanted him to stand out, but not too much. So I opted to make him slightly larger than the rest, but by only a margin. The sword arm now actually consists of four parts, to make things easy, and I had to completely reposition a right storm bolter arm into a left arm, outfit it with a lefty pistol hand, and a storm bolter. The reason there's a piece of plasticard under the storm bolter is because I experimented with a chain blade and a knife blade, but opted for the simple version in the end. His backpack will be completely different. I'm seriously considering just copying kizzdoug's Talos backpack design.

 

He's basically blutac-ed to the base, so he's falling over to the back slightly in these pics. Also, the torso is blutac-ed to the legs, which is why the upper torso is not perfectly aligned with the abdomenal cords. That's no issue and will be fixed. He needs just a little more decoration, like fleshy trophies and definitely some oaths of moment (because Talos and Zarl still do that, according to Soul Hunter). Perhaps a skull on the chain near his groin? What do you think?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Night%20Lords%20WIP/Talos%2011_zpskwtgevdl.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Night%20Lords%20WIP/Talos%2012_zpsizgiqfuo.jpg

 

Second is the new cloak for Uzas. Bigger than the first version, but thinner and less hand-covering than the last version. Good enough?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Night%20Lords%20WIP/Uzas%2021_zpsxdzllkjx.jpg

 

Lastly, there's Xarl. This guy is hard to do! especially because the two-handed chain glaive makes him look a little crouched, and coupled with the legs I still have available for him, it's hard to not make him look defensive. I want him to look menacing, either standing still/at ease or slowly walking forward, like all the others. He shouldn't fall too much out of tone.

So the first legs -left- are what I originally had in mind. The problem is that with this, the arms and legs aren't cross-positioned (meaning when the left leg and the right arm are in front, the right leg and the left arm should be in the back - I always do this and it gives off the most natural poses. I screwed up once, with my second contemptor Cilice Macelarius, and I'm still not entirely happy with him)

The second set of legs -center- moderately solves this issue. It's basically the same pose, but the right foot is angled slightly outward, making for a more dynamic -yet defensive- pose. Don't worry about the DA iconography on the legs, I'll fix that if I'll end up using those legs.

The third set -right- looks the most menacing to me, and is also the only chaos set I have left - which makes the mini's style in line with the rest of the Claw. However, Xarl is not corrupted at all and so I'm not too sure about the daemonic face on his left knee...

Which do you prefer?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Night%20Lords%20WIP/Xarl%201_zpsietnh2w7.jpg

 

Also, but this is minor, I'm afraid the two handedness will cover too much of himself. Hence I'm considering making the chainglaive held in his one right hand, so that the let can hold his bolter... Hmmmm what do you think about this?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Night%20Lords%20WIP/2015-03-05%2012.08.55_zpsn3ldm1h5.jpg

 

Let me know! Your feedback is most welcome, as always. It makes me go :thumbsup:

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First, Uzas's new summer apparel is *spot* on. Dunno how many tries it took, but def worth it.

 

For Xarl, if it were all up to me, I'd say the third chaotic set of legs. That daemon face shouldn't be too hard to be rid of if you're overly concerned with it. I like the single hand on the chainglaive too. It looks like it will free up a lot of space for you to do cool stuff on the rest of the mini.

 

Can't wait to see him! ^_^

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I'd say the third set of legs, definitely gives the model the most motion.

 

 

The Daemonic face can just be painted as brass/gold detailing, so it doesn't need to be corruption.

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third legs indeed, they make him look very dynamic :tu:

 

i like the 2 handed glaive, i think wielding it one handed with a bolter might take away the dynamic/charging look, so i vote 2 handed with maglocked bolter :wink:

 

as for the face on the knee i agree with MagicMan, paint it metallic and it's just another terror marking.

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Awww Talos is pretty cool so far :smile.:

 

Uzaz cloak is now also far better! :thumbsup:

 

For Xarl, i would also say the third set of legs, you can easily remove the daemon-face =) maybe some bonding studs could work on that leg?

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Whoa, quite an awesome update there! :)

 

  • Talos should possibly the best conversion of the bunch -- and so far, it looks like he is. An absolutely excellent conversion, even in its unpainted form.
  • The new cloak for Uzas works really well. Good job!
  • My spontaneous idea for Xarl is: Wouldn't it also be cool for him to be holding the glaive in one hand while giving the opponent the good old "Get over here!" pose. Or even a pointy finger?! Anyway, maybe such a pose would be worth considering?
  • As for the legs, I'll be the odd one out here and suggest one of the more open poses -- but that's mostly because I hate that particular pair of Chaos Termie legs. However, if your main point of contention about those legs is the daemon face, that seems a bit of a non-issue to me: I've always interpreted that face as artificially made, rather than an actual mutation or "corruption" of the armour (unlike the faces on the various DV Chosen, where one cannot be quite sure either way...)
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Wow, Talos is looking awesome, I love Uzaz new cloak.

 

For Xarl, I like the first legs, it fits the current pose better imo. I agree with kraut though, I would like to see a one hand weapon, the over pointing. The arrogance would fit for me.

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Aw man I love your work on First Claw and I'm finding it really hard not to have a go at these guys myself. Mercurtion is perfect Variel is my favourite of your conversions so far though. The new cloak on Uzas is a vast improvement over the last and Talos is looking promising.

 

Now for Xarl, hear me out here. Id say the 3rd set of legs and Id go for a one handed pose. If you can get a more straight left arm and have the glaive in that arm with him possibly holding it nearer the blade. You can then have the other arm pointing/waving/picking his nose or holding a bolter straight out. I think it could give a great sense of movement. If I'm not making sense let me know and I'll try and show what I mean.

Oh and congrats on the win over on FB. :)

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I like Xarl using the 3rd set of legs, I don't think the daemonic face lends itself to corruption, more just stylized terror imagery which suits him fine. I do have to say though that I'm not a big fan of the chainglaive, Xarl's iconic two-handed chainsword is part of his charm and what makes him so awesome. If you can I'd bring that back.

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My vote on the legs is with the majority - 3rd option.

 

For the chain glaive, it depends on the balance from pace of the "running" action - it is a heavy weapon, so if he leans too far forward on the base, then single-handed would look awkward?

 

Great work on the skinning.  Variel would be proud.  :) 

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First Claw update.

1. Finished Cyrion.

2. Still working on Talos - but he's almost finished too.

3. Finished painting Uzas' cloak.

4. Xarl... Your ideas on him echo my hesitation on the parts I have in mind for him. More on that after...

 

First the pics of Cyrion 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Showcase%20Night%20Lords/WP_20150307_006_zpsrmhskcxj.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Showcase%20Night%20Lords/WP_20150307_002_zpshpergfs2.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Showcase%20Night%20Lords/WP_20150307_003_zpsu2xrcuoo.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Showcase%20Night%20Lords/WP_20150307_004_zpsh1l5pkjc.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Showcase%20Night%20Lords/WP_20150307_005_zpsi6en6gpd.jpg

 

And here is Uzas' new cloak:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Showcase%20Night%20Lords/WP_20150307_015_zpsbbk1br1z.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Showcase%20Night%20Lords/WP_20150307_016_zpsg5vjubnc.jpg

 

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/mkruijff/Showcase%20Night%20Lords/WP_20150307_017_zpsljr1d9yg.jpg

 

Hope you like!!

 

Now, on to Xarl. There's two things that I'm quite uncertain on, and both are very much essential to his pose:

1. His legs. As Kraut mentioned, this pair of legs is... meh. I've also used it with Cyrion, although the two skulls on his belt chain masked the awkwardness somewhat. I do appreciate the dynamic that this pair give sthe mini over the other two options. AAAARGH

2. His glaive. I like the pose that it gives him, but on the other hand that pose is exactly the reason why the other two legs give him a defensive stance. Perhaps a one-handed version will be more actively posed. Also, I'm tempted to actually cut off the blade off of one of the eviscerators wielded by those two 'zerkers I painted in February. I agree with Heinrich that it looks just a liiiiitle too small. Hmmm. Any more insights?

 

Replies!

 

@Flint13: Took me three tries, including the first. OK the daemonic head is no longer an issue as I'm now convinced that face is ornamental. What do you think of Talos' WIP?

 

@MagicMan: Cheers, the third set is indeed the most dynamic. 

 

@Wicced: Well, three is the charm - both in legs and in replies agreeing about them ;)  Thanks! 

 

@Atia: Cheers. No critique on Talos?

 

@KrautScientist: Ah, another very helpful and constructive reply :tu: Thanks buddy! Pointing fingers are a pet peeve of mine, not sure if that's a good idea. But perhaps an open hand, to signify a "Come at me 'bro!" stance? Also, can you specify why you hate that particular set of legs? You haven't said anything about them on Cyrion... 

 

@The Hydra: Arrogance... that's indeed what I think about Xarl. Or rather complete faith in his own abilities to win a fight. 

 

@Teetengee: Cheers. Seems like the third set is going to win!

 

@Biohazard: Thanks mate! The third set it will be then, although I'm still contemplating the one or two handed glaive... And thanks on the felicitations on the FB win! I'm super stoked about it. Looks like my ETL contribution will be primarily Daemons this year (and thus WAY less points than last year...)

 

@-Brutus-: It is an entire noble family - the wive's blood of which he used to paint the bloody hand on his face! ;)

 

@Brother Heinrich: Thanks. You made a good point on the chain glaive. As said, I'm considering looting one of my newest 'zerkers to get an eviscerator...

 

@Psychic_scribe: I'm not going to make anything look awkward, trust me. Pose is everything in a mini, and I'm a total stickler for it. It's just a question of which pose...;)

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