AndrewChristlieb Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I would go with the standard assault pad for those guys then and make up some fluff bit for your current guys, maybe they're all assault marines assigned to vehicles? What are you planning on doing with the body of the Apoc? If you go with a predominant white scheme then the sword brother pad/standard apoc would look really neat with the sword brother pad adding a nice bit of pop (along with what ever other sword brother elements come in). If you're just going the helm and back pack white then the standard apoc pad might help pull the model together too. There are a lot of options here, does one of the painting tools have an apoc setting so you can play around? That might be the place to look and get an idea of how it will come together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Basically I was going to go with a white helm, and on the backpack where there is an apoc symbol the background behind that will be white. the rest of the backpack will be black as well as the rest of the marine. Shoulders I was thinking white field black cross and either red or white trim. So here are some WIP photo's of my bikers This guy's head was turned so I made his lance go more out to the side. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141006_174853_zpshcbwpvis.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141006_174909_zps5frgyuxt.jpg On this guy you can see his arm doesn't yet have the shoulder pad as it requires greenstuff to fill the empy space http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141006_174956_zpsrwinmbwc.jpg And here is the chaplain I'm making. I haven't glued him in place yet as I wanted to make sure I liked the pose. (he's supposed to look like he's about to smite someone) http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141006_174930_zpse0btj4qb.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141006_174939_zpsp2ldslyw.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I see what you're trying to do with a over the head come-down bludgeon pose-- but I think it would actually look better if you put the arm down into a horizontal sweep. I can only imagine that it would be difficult as is riding on a motorcycle trying to mace someone without complicating the matter with a slow overhead strike rather than a casual drive-by flick of the wrist smiting. It would make for a larger area to potentially hit that target as well. Just my 2 cents of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Are you intending to magnetise the lance arms at all? I think that may be particularly useful if you want to travel with the models. Also, might I trouble you for a close-up of the arm itself? I'm really interested to see how you've connected it all. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 I see what you're trying to do with a over the head come-down bludgeon pose-- but I think it would actually look better if you put the arm down into a horizontal sweep. I can only imagine that it would be difficult as is riding on a motorcycle trying to mace someone without complicating the matter with a slow overhead strike rather than a casual drive-by flick of the wrist smiting. It would make for a larger area to potentially hit that target as well. Just my 2 cents of course. Well, I was sort of going for him just starting an underhand Sauron type swing to send a bunch of poor souls flying. The arm is only tacked on with a bit of glue so I'm going to have to take it off and reglue properly anyway. When I do that, I will be sure to try some different angles Are you intending to magnetise the lance arms at all? I think that may be particularly useful if you want to travel with the models. Also, might I trouble you for a close-up of the arm itself? I'm really interested to see how you've connected it all. In fact they are already magnetized! I did it for both ease of transport and also to be able to run them with special weapons if I so desired, cause bikes are pretty pricey $$ wise. I'll post up some close ups for you this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Good idea! I have enough spare arms and bits knocking around to do something similar, for those times when you just know that you are going to need some grav-bikers to handle some cheesy list :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I don't know, but there's something wrong with the chappy. Maybe that's just a matter of perspective and the fault of him not having the bulky shoulder pads and backpack, but as he is now, he lacks "dignity." I can't put my finger on what's wrong - I suppose it's the way his arms is attached. Or the default breastplate? But that's just me, and as you can see, I can't specify what's wrong with him. Judging by the rest of your conversions, I'm sure everything will be fine after you'll assemble him. The lancer on the other hand looks simply amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psykic_scribe Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 My suggestion would be to swop out the chappie's helm for a skull helmet - no warrior priest should leave his battle barge without one? With a good book in the saddle-bags and plenty of cloth blessings attached, a chaplain biker is one not to be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 My suggestion would be to swop out the chappie's helm for a skull helmet - no warrior priest should leave his battle barge without one? With a good book in the saddle-bags and plenty of cloth blessings attached, a chaplain biker is one not to be ignored. It's a "skull" helmet from DA's Seraphicus special chaplain from the DV box, if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 My suggestion would be to swop out the chappie's helm for a skull helmet - no warrior priest should leave his battle barge without one? With a good book in the saddle-bags and plenty of cloth blessings attached, a chaplain biker is one not to be ignored. It's a "skull" helmet from DA's Seraphicus special chaplain from the DV box, if I'm not mistaken. That is correct. I actually really dig the helm, it's very mean looking. as for the pose, I'll post up some more pics soon with different angles and we can judge from there. Since then I've glued on a backpack, fixed his torso to his legs and made his crozius a proper BT one with BT emblems ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Ok as requested, follow up pics of the chaplain and close ups on the arms. Here is the arm that is nearly ready for paint. I used contour putty to fill the gap between the shoulder pad and the arm which I will not be doing in the future. The putty is really designed to fill a gap to make a recessed area smooth or something similar. As it was I had to use glue on both sides of the putty to ensure it stuck. I will use some greenstuff on the underside to cover the magnet and make it look like the soft armor joints. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141008_200843_zps5x2wwwsj.jpg Here's a couple of shots of the other two lancers. One other nice thing about magnetizing is that you can adjust the lance angle for cool poses. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141008_201020_zpsykbj2a6t.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141008_200940_zpsbgi5jfao.jpg So here's the latest on the chaplain. There are still a few parts with blue tac like his head and arm holding the bike handle. The shoulder pad is also just resting on there. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141008_201053_zpswebdxnhy.jpg overhead shot http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141008_201135_zpsrt3uwy1k.jpg And a lower angle than the first http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141008_201204_zpsb9apq0si.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewChristlieb Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Nice, the overhead shot and front shot really shows off that low sweeping attack he's about to throw. Perfect from a table top position. The helm is really nice looking for a biker Chappy too. Are you planning on doing anything for the bike though? I would second psykic scribe's suggestion to have some saddlebags with some chappy items sticking out. I feel that it could be "pimped out" a bit more, it needs more skulls or a more dynamic pose or something to help it stand out from the more mundane bikes (if any biker brother can be thought of as mundane....) :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metic Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I love that pose, There's so much Strength and Realism in the figures movement. I can see him Smiting down the Heretics now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Nice, thanks for that. Yeah, I saw the chaplain and felt the Zeal rise - he looks totally awesome. I love the pose, the helmet, the crozius, everything. He is gonna look awesome with your paint job on him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 Thanks guys, glad you like him. To answer Andrew's question, yes the chaplain will have more bling on his bike. Actually the bike he is on is not the one he will be on once completed. I was just using it to get the pose right. I plan to use the DA winged front(sans any DA logo's of course) because it looks like a crozius. I also plan to use various other bits to make all the bikes more veteran looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metic Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 The dark angel robes work really well with the Templar torsos on bikes, I have a full command squad that's been converted this way. I think it gives them a Very Templar feel and that "Elite" look in comparison to the rest of the bikes I own which do not have the tabbard conversions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Love the Crozius on the Chaplain Biker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 The dark angel robes work really well with the Templar torsos on bikes, I have a full command squad that's been converted this way. I think it gives them a Very Templar feel and that "Elite" look in comparison to the rest of the bikes I own which do not have the tabbard conversions. Yeah I have a pair of those legs and honestly I just didn't like the way it looked. It felt too much like a skirt and not enough like a tabard for my tastes. But I'd love to see what you've done with them, throw up a pic when you get a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andhil Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Looking good, Ace! Bikers with Lances is probably one of the most BT squads one can make. I should try making a squad someday. Probably with Nemesis Halberds, just to jump out of the flock! Oh, and that Chaplain..... That pose is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Ok so an update. I've the apothecary almost ready, the only question is his chainsword and whether or not it looks good. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/2cf34ef0-e30b-4779-abb5-4c2737e863a8_zps262392fe.jpg Next up is the test positioning for when the bikers get shields. I plan to glue the shield itself to his arm and then greenstuff a strap so it's not "floating" on his arm. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/0c852816-0d8e-464f-8428-1ae5ba958e42_zpsa24c7c62.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/634813d0-6c9e-4532-be44-32ffcb2d107e_zps4409e540.jpg Also, some of you may have noticed that I did a head swap, as the stock biker helmet was simply not awesome enough for this guy. Here's a close up http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/e1b45e7f-6cda-4fa8-b30c-0ec1b3c2bf46_zps523a2088.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Looking good. As for Chainsword on the Apothecary... I see nothing wrong :D!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted October 23, 2014 Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 So been doing some work on them, I got the guy seen above basically ready for paint. My friend gave me some greenstuff and so I took my first stab at using it. I think it came out pretty well considering I've never touched it before I wanted to make a strap for his shield so it wouldn't appear to be "floating" on his arm. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141023_132534_zpsjctp5oaw.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141023_132550_zpsl5k0n1fk.jpg Then I moved on to something that is actually challenging. The under arms of all the lance arms need greenstuff because it is basically just a magnet glued to the Bretonnian arm. So I need to bulk it up and create the soft armor in the armpit joint. I think it turned out ok http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141023_133138_zpswdynbvjb.jpg Next up I started mocking up the look of the other lancers and realized something. I'm very limited in what pads I can use because anything with a seal or piece of cloth on it will look stupid on a biker who's supposed to be driving around at like 50 mph.(unless of course you are an Ultramarine whose seals and cloth is so starched it will stand out in a hurricane ) So in an effort to have some variety I came up with the idea to use the chest shields from the TDA bitz. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141023_133523_zps86jjdufh.jpg http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k48/Acebaur/40K/20141023_133654_zps8byt3xfg.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Oh man, that's such a good idea! They even look like the special shoulder-guards you might see on a jousting knight. I was curious if you would use a space marine arm chopped and changed to fit the hand holding the lance, or just bulk out the lance arm itself. It looks like your method may cut down on quite a bit of cutting/trimming/pinning all for relatively little greenstuff work! I'll have to experiment after I finish my raven. Very nice work :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metic Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I did the same thing with my Sword Brother Bikers, I love the TDA shields. It works great to show their own personal heraldry. And A nifty trick if you want some purity seals on the bikes is using the etched brass sprue. It's durable enough that it won't break if you tap/bump it in play. And you can bend and work it in any shape you want really. It's a good way of showing motion. green stuff purity seals which can be more intricate and pretty, But they can be broken quite easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Working out very well so far. Greenstuff seems fonder of you than me, but that's not exactly a high bar :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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