Ishagu Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I have splurged on making a fluffy 2k Sons of Horus army, now I need to fill the remaining 500 points with something effective to make the list a bit more... Good :-P Here is the army so far: HQ: -Legion Centurion, Artifacer Armour Lord of War: -Horus Lupercal Troops: -10 Justaerin Terminators, 8 Power Fists, 2 Chain Fists, 2 Multi Meltas -10 Tactical Veterans, Sgt with Combi Plasma and Artifacer Armour, 2 Plasma guns, Rhino with Dozer Blade So... As you can see this is a pretty elite list. I understand it would be better in a 2.5 game as I can add more numbers and toys... But in the interest of my local scene and trying to save money, what is the very best way to spend 500 more points? Btw, are SoH veterans painted black or are they the usual teal? Also... Can a 30k army like this take an Aegis line or other fortifications?? I keep hearing great things about Sicaran tanks but I've not seen the rules in book2: Massacre yet so can't make a judgement. Also, I'm thinking of adding 5 Combi plasmas to the Terminators to make them in to an even scarier unit... Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Well, a few things first. I would not rely on this: Lol I am definitely running the Primarch. His serpent scale's specialrule gives him a 3++ re roll 3++ if he takes damage as suffering a woundIS definitely an adverse effect on his profile. Sounds like a good wayto Troll an opponent :-P Rules as written, sure, that's how it works. But I cannot believe that FW intended to give Horus the equivalent of 18 wounds while all the other Primarchs get 6. Not for only 500 points. If you wrote to FW and asked them if that's how it works, then they might tell you no, it isn't. Second, you probably have more than 500 points to play with. Justaerin are supposed to be getting a price drop (alongside a price increase for Master of Signal and a change for Tactical Support Squad Sergeants) in an FAQ/errata alongside book 3. 30k armies can take fortifications. I'm not entirely sure your list will work - I think you're relying heavily on a cheesy reading of Horus' rules to make that deep striking blob of Terminators work. Facing 30k armies, I can pretty well guess that it will not. There is too much firepower in a 30k gunline for that few units to survive. With fury of the legion, 20 tactical marines can kill ~4 terminators in one round of shooting. Mix that in with the powerful blast weapons available to Legions (Medusas, Predator Executioners, Typhons, etc) and you're looking at a really bad day for that squad. Vs 40k? I dunno. But I think that deep striking next to some 20 man guardian blobs would be way worse than doing the same thing to 30k tacticals. Bladestorm is bad juju for Horus and his terminator pals. I think the maneuverability of 40k armies will deny you the game-winning assaults that you need, since your terminators are all in Cataphractii plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 Ok, fair points you've made. I love fluffy units so I'll keep the Justaerin termies but cut them down to a unit of 5 to deepstrike with Horus. Are veteran Tacticals worth it in your experience? I like being able to take 2 special weapons, but even if I make them fearless they just seem like a more expensive tac squad from 40k... Does giving them the Sniper special rule make their weapons rending or is it simply poison 4+?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Veterans are fairly costly for what they do. Tacticals break down to 12.5 points each, while veterans work out to about 20 points each, so if you're just looking at buying as few models as possible, Veterans are one way to go. Those 7.5 points a piece only really buys you 2 extra attacks in melee and a USR, though - and you lose the ability to do a Fury of the Legion attack in the process. But yes, they are like an expensive tac squad from 40k, one with a whole mess of melee attacks. Your question Re: Sniper in the Vet squad is answered in FW's FAQ. Since Horus grants +1 Ld to all SoH models in the same force, I would not go for Fearless on them. It would be much better to get some use out of one of their other USRs instead of wasting their Ld10/9 by choosing Fearless. As far as cash layout goes: Veteran Squad 10 Members, 2 Plasmaguns, Legion Vexilla, Sergeant with Artificer Armor, Power Weapon, Meltabomb 265 points 2x5 man tactical squad sets - 46 GBP 8/10ths Bolter set - 8.8 GBP 1/2 Legion Command Upgrade Set - 4.50 GBP 1/5th Legion plasma set - 2.2 GBP Deimos Rhino - 34 GBP 95.5 GBP ~0.36 GBP per point Tactical Squad 20 members, Legion Vexilla, Sergeant with Artificer Armor, Power Weapon, Meltabombs 285 Tactical Squad 4x 5 man tactical squad sets - 92 GBP 2x Bolter Set - 22 GBP 1/2 Legion Command Upgrade Set - 4.50 GBP 118.5 GBP ~0.415 GBP per point Either of these would also need some parts from the assault weapons kit (like the meltabombs and power weapon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Honestly 10 man destroyer in rhino with HK ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 So, I think I have my 2k list, and it won't cost TOO much to put together, I will of course be using complete FW kits. I already purchased Master of Signal, Horus, Termies and Snipers... -Master of Signal (love the one use attack) -Warmaster Horus -Justaerin Terminators x 5, Multi Melta, Chain Fist, 4 Power Fists (fluffy!) -Recon Squad, 5 Sniper Rifles (like the models) -Veteran Tactical Squad, Combi Plasma, 2 Plasma Guns, Rhino -Legion Jet Bike Sqd, 3 Multi Meltas (not too expensive to buy lol) -2 x Sicarans, Las Cannon Sponsons How would this fare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molokai Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Who's the mos going with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 He's just going to cower in cover with the Recon Squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molokai Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Cool, they get +1 bs, which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstalker Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Regarding your jet bike squad, is that a squad with 9 members, 6 with heavy bolters and 3 with multimeltas? Or did you want to do one with 3 members, all with multimeltas? One of those is possible, the other is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 I misread the wargear options on the jetbikes, I thought they could each take a MM... Unfortunately I can't fit 9 bikes in to a 2k list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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