Hesh Kadesh Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Take Mutable Tactics Move Through Cover, and a Praevian with Darkfire Cannon Castellax with Tank Hunters Legion Inductees. These Deep Strike into an enemy backline, because the Praevian gives them Infantry type allowing them to Deep Strike into cover for free (no Dangerous terrain because Move Through Cover), get Preferred Enemy Tank Hunters AP1 Lance with 2 shots apiece. Praevian can get a Powerfist and Dagger for 4 attacks on the defensive and bring a Nanyte Blaster as well. Keep Dynat with a Drop Podded Headhunters Squad nearby where he provides a bonus CC ability to that squad and the threat of up to 5 Monstrous Creatures which are BS5 Preferred Enemy because of his Cognis Signum. Dynat = 200 Praevian, x5 Castellax, x5 Darkfire Cannons, Nanyte Blaster = 680 Headhunters, +4, Heavy Bolter with Banestrike and Suspensor, Power Fist and Power Dagger, Meltabombs, Artificer Armour, Legion Drop Pod = 345 Very, very hefty chunk of points, but Headhunters are scoring too with the FAQ. It allows a Praevian into an Orbital Assault Army as well. In regards to his abilities; eh, he sucks. 3, 4 attacks on the charge. I thought it was a Paragon Blade. It's not. It's a shoddy power sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Finally got a response from Forgeworld about Banestrike Ammo and it seems you can use it in any Bolter or Heavy Bolter, might open up some new options with regards to Jetbikes and Bikes for HQs. Can't seem to upload the picture from my iPad though of the email. Secrets & Lies 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secrets & Lies Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 AND FOR THAT YOU MUST DIE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Anyone running the event only model guy? You can get his rules off FW site, for experimental rules he has not half bad. Looks to good for small armies, or not taking any low, being able to pick your trait could be useful and having vets as your mantory troops is different. The model himself looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Picking trait is insanely good ability. For little more than a Praetor, he is very powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Yeah that can set up some great combos, free army trait, vets pick addition one than select your warlord trait, it almost OP, but fits the XX perfectly, just sucks there experimental rules. Or I would be auto including him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 It's a shame that he counts as a Consul as It will limit you to only using a Vigilator if you use Coils of the Hydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 he comes with his own ROW so I am unsure if you can take him in coil of hydra list. He wouldn't serve much good in there because you would lose his row. But as for model it self he could fit the bill for any of consul types. Side note FW newsletter had updated shot of dynat in it, perhaps soon he will go up for preorder, the model it self looks great. It's about time we get some HQ models done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 No he doesn't. o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) He has an unique RoW available to all Delagus Consuls that is designed to be used in small points games such as Zone Mortalis games. You can choose any RoW when using him. I think he would fit perfectly in a Coils list as we have to be a heavy troop tax, however being limited to the Vigilator seems too much of a restriction. Edited March 10, 2015 by PastelAvenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Designed to be used in smaller games means "used only in Zone Mortalis" does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 "Rite Of War: Chosen Duty The following Rite of War can be used by a Legion Delegatus being fielded as the army’s Warlord. It represented esents the officer selecting a small but potent strike force of chosen warriors for the prosecution of a specific objective. It can be used in any mission, but is particularly appropriate for use in smaller scale games, such as the Zone Mortalis missions provided in The Horus Heresy Books One and Three, and the Strategic Raids missions in Book Four." I haven't read book 4 yet so i don't know much about the raid missions. dont want to come across as dick but I don't see how you can select both coil of hydra and his row in the same list. You can't take allies with him when you feild him. now you can pick him as your warlord and not take his ROW, this is where he would shine in higher point games. If you not look to take a lot of points in HQ. Please don't take this as me being combative I just trying to spark a solid debate on tactics, unfortunately somtimes typing things out has away of coming across as being :cuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) What's forcing you to use his Rite of War? "can" =/= "must". Noone is saying use both either. Edited March 9, 2015 by Hesh Kadesh Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 You are correct on that nothing is forcing you to take his ROW or coil of hydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Designed to be used in smaller games means "used only in Zone Mortalis" does it? Poor choice of words I've edited it to reflect what I actually meant, sarcasm really wasn't needed though. Edited March 10, 2015 by PastelAvenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I have a guestion: I want to make a army including a Delegatus (the event only character) but also Armillus Dynat, both say that they MUST be the warlord of the army, Armillus does not count as a preator.. So he is allowed to be taken, but who must be the warlord? Armillus or the delegatus? I myself think Armillus, he is a higher ranking officer in the fluff, and his rules specify he MUST be the warlord unless Alpharius is present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Dynat is the Warlord I would say his rule says that he only gives up his position of power for Alpharius. Just curious, why are you taking the Delegatus of you're taking a character that has access to the RoW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thats a tough call both command the top spot but in rules and fluff. They only thing I can see as clear winning is Dynat the reason behind this is the delegatus is still experimental rules. So if your playing agsint some they can just veto him out. Than again seeing who this the XX legion you can spin it anyway you like to say why one is in charge over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Or conversely, the two are mutually exclusive and cannot be taken in the same army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkyHamHam Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Doesn't the Delgatus also say he only relinquishes warlord to the Primarch, if present? If that be the case, you are back to square one. My thought would be player choice. Yes even though Dynat is higher up, the XX still value flexibility, and the Delgatus's rite could be more useful. Or you could circumvent the issue and just take Alpharius. They both know who's boss :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Hi, Thank you for your email. The Delegatus is empowered by the Legion Primarch to Command, so he takes precedence of command. If there is anything further we can do to assist you, or if you have any queries about the information we have requested or provided, please telephone us. Regards, Forge World This should answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Not really, as Dynat wouldn't give him the command. After re reading the rules you still come to the same conclusion both tell us they are to be the warlord. Why would you take both though? I can't see any reason why. If they referenced Dynat in your email I would be all for it but they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Here is the email I sent them that does referenced Dynaat. On 12 March 2015 at 21:49, <> wrote: I would like my army including a Delegatus (the event only character) but also Armillus Dynat, both say that they MUST be the warlord of the army. So he is allowed to be taken, but who must be the warlord? Armillus or the delegatus Hi, Thank you for your email. The Delegatus is empowered by the Legion Primarch to Command, so he takes precedence of command. If there is anything further we can do to assist you, or if you have any queries about the information we have requested or provided, please telephone us. Regards, Forge World Other the rule of cool I wouldn't personally take both. But I was already emailing FW some questions for league play, so I tossed in the this as well, this way other players could use it as reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 My Problem was they don't reference Dynat in your reply not the email you sent buddy :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Can we all agree that FW email monkeys have even less of a clue of their own rules than the actual FW writers who have even less than the GW dev teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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