scatmandoo Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Game cancelled tonight due to a Nurgle outbreak at my opponents house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Curse your opponents for being so weak of flesh and faith! I think you should still count it as a victory :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Had 2 1k games vs the wife using marines today. First she took a vulcan inspired list, and I used Ccs, Astro, regimental standard, lascannon. Platoon, PCS, Autocannon Inf 1, G/L and A/C Inf 2, G/L and A/C SWS, 2xM/G and Demo Vets, 2xM/G and H/F in a Chimera M/L and H/B Armoured sentinel with plasma cannon Armoured sentinel with plasma cannon Valkyrie with MRP Wyvern Executioner with plasma sponsons. 1k http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_111449.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_111457.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_111504.jpg I had first turn, got lucky and the devastators were dead, most of the tacts in the ruin and all that was left by the end of 2nd was the raider, termies and vulkan. So we called it as a fail. All the guard lost were a few guardsmen and a sentinels plasma cannon. Next, a sicarious tactical marine experiment list. I used the same list after how successful it was previously. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_153327.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_153342.jpg And then the scene at the end of turn 1, going well for the guard but had a couple issues like a stunned executioner. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_170700.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_170721.jpg This is the scene after turn 2, things are going the guards way again but both ccs and pcs are dead. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_194138.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_194153.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140722_194206.jpg At the end of 3 we called it again as the guard had it in the bag and marines were limited to trying to survive with minimal threat ability. Have I created a rounded effective list with redundancy and strong output? Any recommendations on how it can be improved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 A good list against Marines I feel, it would help to see what the Marine lists were to properly gauge it's effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 The first list i think had Vulkan, 5xL/C termies in a dedicated Redeemer 8xtacts with flamer and MM in a drop pod. 7xtacts with flamer and combi melta. 4×MM devastators plus sgt. Second had Sicarious 9xsternguard C/M and C/F and H/F in a pod 10 x Tacts with M/M, M/G and gained scout from sicarious 7 x tacts with Flamer and P/W 4x M/L devastators 2xFlakk and sgt. I went first in the first game, and the firepower was devastating, accurate and her saves were poor. Second game I stole initiative and then her army had its ass in the breeze and once again I only rolled maybe 4 scatter misses all game. I was extremely lucky with my rolling. Only things that weren't very effective were the infantry squads but I don't know what to drop to get them more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Your list will murder marine armies in the open but might struggle against faster lists like bikes and such. I don't know why she quit in the first game if she still had the big box full of hate on the table. That redeemer and termis can almost table you by itself with a bit of luck. The game really wasn't over. Your best threat to her was just one veteran squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hmm, I don't think the first list is a great one - but it's all relative. It's a moot point though as the Emperor was with you, with such a blessing all other things count for little. If your wife is looking for advice (feel free to pass this on... or not :P ) Marines can do well on the cheap - this is how I prefer them as it lets them take on horde opponents like Guard better. My Marines don't have too much trouble with Guard and it's mostly my Tacs that win the day! Get close and Guard will struggle, which is why I always recommend a Guard army is prepared for this ;) Speaking of which, that's how I like my infantry squads so perhaps that might be worth a try for you? Scurrying around with a flamer is cheap but quite effective, plus they'll be able to intercept aggressive units that threaten your more valuable units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Your list will murder marine armies in the open but might struggle against faster lists like bikes and such. I don't know why she quit in the first game if she still had the big box full of hate on the table. That redeemer and termis can almost table you by itself with a bit of luck. The game really wasn't over. Your best threat to her was just one veteran squad. I still had a sentinel and the russ rocking and once she de-bussed and murdered one squad she thought that she would just die and fail every saving throw. I agree I may struggle with bikes but I'm not sure what to change to conpensate for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hmm, I don't think the first list is a great one - but it's all relative. It's a moot point though as the Emperor was with you, with such a blessing all other things count for little. If your wife is looking for advice (feel free to pass this on... or not :P ) Marines can do well on the cheap - this is how I prefer them as it lets them take on horde opponents like Guard better. My Marines don't have too much trouble with Guard and it's mostly my Tacs that win the day! Get close and Guard will struggle, which is why I always recommend a Guard army is prepared for this ;) Speaking of which, that's how I like my infantry squads so perhaps that might be worth a try for you? Scurrying around with a flamer is cheap but quite effective, plus they'll be able to intercept aggressive units that threaten your more valuable units. I agree that the first list is weak, we spoke after and she wanted to make the most of the flamer/melta rules buff from salamanders. I will pass on the advice about marines, though she likes assault and carving me up so its trying to find a working assault list. As for my squads, do you mean infantry with a flamer? What would you change to fit them in and would you add a priest/inq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Assault works well for Marines, it's how I usually beat Guard - shooting, flaming and assault infantry and kraking tanks. Simple but effective, especially with Drop Pods :) I run my ISs cheap, flamers let them dish out some hurt at a bargain price and it lets you get more squads in. They're the workhorse unit that protects, intercepts and bogs the enemy down in numbers. They don't often do that much damage, but they help win games by holding the enemy off such I can manoeuvre other units to exploit this. Ideally your opponent's main concern will be "how can I get past the Guardsmen defensive line to reach X that is murdering my army?" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Ok I like it, maybe I will use a flamer in each squad instead of a grenade launcher, as I like the autocannon even if just stripping a hull point off of something while the torches are out of range. Shame as I like the idea of the G/L just never find it useful enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yeah, I like them for their utility and cheapness but most squads will have flamers as they're more useful, so GLs tend to be a secondary weapon for a squad to lend a bit of versatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Had a 1850 battle vs space wolves before my friend got deployed for 4 months. I used, + HQ + (370pts) * Command Vanquisher (185pts), Lascannon, Knight Commander Pask * Exterminator (155pts), 2x Heavy Bolter, Pintle-mounted Heavy Stubber + Troops + (275pts) * Veterans (170pts)* Chimera (65pts) * Grenadiers* Veteran Sergeant* Veteran w/ Heavy Flamer* 6x Veteran w/ Lasgun* 2x Veteran w/ Meltagun * Veterans (105pts)* Grenadiers* Veteran Sergeant* Veteran w/ Heavy Flamer* 6x Veteran w/ Lasgun* 2x Veteran w/ Meltagun + Fast Attack + (265pts) * Hellhound Squadron* Bane Wolf (130pts) * Valkyrie Squadron* Valkyrie (135pts)2x Multiple Rocket Pods + Heavy Support + (255pts) * Executioner (190pts), 2x Plasma Cannons, Pintle-mounted Heavy Stubber * Wyvern (65pts) + Fortification + * Aegis Defense Line (70pts), Comms relay + HQ + (85pts) * Company Command Squad (85pts), Flak Armour* Company Commander* 2x Veteran w/ Flamer* Veteran w/ Laspistol & CCW* Veteran w/ Plasma Gun + Troops + (260pts) * Veterans* Forward Sentries* Veteran Autocannon Team* Veteran Sgt* 3x Veteran w/ Grenade Launcher* 4x Veteran w/ Lasgun * Veterans (165pts)* Chimera * Grenadiers* Veteran Sgt* Veteran w/ Flamer* 6x Veteran w/ Lasgun* 2x Veteran w/ Meltagun + Fast Attack + (270pts) * Armoured Sentinel (50pts), Plasma Cannon * Armoured Sentinel (50pts), Plasma Cannon * Vendetta (170pts) He used, A commander in terminator armour, (i forget now, though he was hard) thunderwolf pack SS + PW Terminators, Counts as Dread with shield and axe in a pod, Greys with 2 melta in a pod, Greys with 2 melta in a pod SW Scout in PA (forgot name) in a pod. sorry i don't know more. Here are some pics of my reserves and how i deployed. I won deployment and then first turn. and it was the mission on the maelstrom missions where there are 6 objectives. We also house ruled taking all cards out that cannot be achieved in the game to make gameplay better. This is the CCS in the vendetta and a vet squad in the Valk. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_194635.jpg Here are the vets that are riding in the chimeras. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_194658.jpg The deployment was table corners, and knowing he had pods and wanting to protect the tanks, i bunched up as much as i could without a infantry bubble. I thought i had done quite well. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_194722.jpg Here is a close up of my deployment, including the vets in the woods. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_194738.jpg This is a Close up of the suicidal/advancing contingent until the air support arrived. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_194751.jpg And into the game we go, Pask surveyed the scene in front of him and was curious as to when the wolfs would turn up. Without a target in sight he ordered the flanking contingent forward at full speed to go and grab objectives while the chance was there. He then moved his tank to protect a flank not quite covered incase of drop pod attack. The veterans in the woods noted that their objective had been boobytrapped, requested to move to a safe distance from it while still being close enough to hold it, he granted them permission. All of a sudden 2 pods came crashing down nearby, 1 in front of the veterans holding the rigged objective in the trees and the other came down in the one spot he hadn't anticipated one coming down on the trees between him and the new Wyvern support tank. Thankfully the Dreadnought didn't have any guns so was ineffective this round but the Grey hunters did manage to gun a veteran down. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_201658.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_201722.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_201739.jpg After all these targets presented themselves, Both elements of air support turned up to help turn the tide back in favour of the guard. Pask and his associate went shooting first scoring hits on both the cannon and the lascannon, though rolled 1's for penetration, shouting at the crew to stop loading blanks. his associate unable to utilise most of the weaponry for the target opened up with the autocannon turret scoring hits though the one looking a dead cert to cause problems got deflected off of the Shield! Up next the Lascannons of the vendetta tried to deal with the imposter but thanks to only just aquiring the target, only 2 of the weapons actually hit and they too bounced off the shield! The vets in the chimera seeing the trouble climbed out the top hatch but one pulled his trigger too soon before he had aimed and the other also targeted the shield. Things were looking grim, the executioner and plasma sentinel unloaded all the could onto the grey hunters. The sentinel reported targeting issues and scattered wildly, and the Executioner over powered it cells and overheated 3 guns losing a hull point in the process. 1 grey hunter died to the fire power. The veterans unleashed all they could but due to wild shooting and inpenetrable power armour only 1 more marine fell. The valkyrie travelled to fast to allow the targeting sensors time to catch up and missed with all its shots too. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_203854.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_203923.jpg Pask watched on in horror as the dreadnought walked in his direction and swiftly carved both his and the Exterminator up. Pask managed to escape the tank but mortaly wounded had to miss the rest of the battle. The veterans on the hill were cut down to the man, first by gunfire and then in combat. the other greys next to them shot the executioner and managed to silence the main turret after overheating in the first turn. Meanwhile on the advancing flank, things got dangerous very quickly, the terminators podded in behind the chimera, while the Wolf scouts podded in front of the tank. surrounded by all sides the terminators shot their melta at the chimera missing the tank in a smoke screen though Thor threw his hammer causing the vehicle to get immobilised and a hull point lost. the wolf scouts took the sentinel out by weight of bolter fire. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_212025.jpghttp://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_212004.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_212047.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_212059.jpg My next turn saw the Plasma from the executioner and the sentinel go after the grey hunters getting a few with support from the wyvern too, though the aegis line helped the enemy as much as my by this point. the banewolf came to town inflicting horrendouscasualties to the grey hunters dropping their numbers to 9 in total on both squads. the meltas from the vets and lascannons from the vendetta took out the dreadnought. the vets in the surrounded Chimera used the HF to great effect in the front arc taking out many of the wolf scouts due to bad saves, the vets inside used the heavy flamerand one melta out the hatch, but couldn't penetrate the armour. the Valk opened up with the rocket pods and due to the armour though only one terminator fell. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_214725.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_214857.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_214911.jpg The wolves fought back for their losses by blowing the banewolf and the executioner up. On the flank, the thunder wolves arrived though not quick enough to help the wolve scouts and terminators out to destroy the Chimera and the surviving veterans stumbling from the wreckage. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_221528.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_221537.jpg the Vet squad deployed from the valkyrie in an effort to rid the table of greys and combined with the CCS deploying frothe vendetta aided the sentinel, chimera, vets from the chimera, valkyrie, vendetta and wyvern in killing the remaining greys. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_223606.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140821_223613.jpg The wolves next turn turned to charging the thunderwolves toward the valkyrie and downing the aircraft. At this point we stopped the game, we both had 6 VP's, his were game based ie objectives, firstblood, walord and linebreaker, where as mine were a couple objectives but mostly extra points from the cards that i had been lucky with. was a good enjoyable game though. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Looks like a hard fought battle. Can't wait for the details! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Yeah, especially with a Dreadnought landing in your back lines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Battle report modified with script now. Got another on the way after another 1k battle vs the wife yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 That's great that you're able to share your hobby with your wife. What army does she play? Good job pulling out a draw. It was looking rather ugly after that turn two where all your tanks whiffed and his dreadnought dealt some serious pain (after a lucky scatter free initial drop -- from the pics it looks like he would have mishapped if he scattered at all). I guess you needed to deploy just a touch closer to each other to prevent that. Nice to see a Banewolf in action. It died quick but it did it's job first. Great unit for to hold in reserve to counter attack pod armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 A good read, and an exciting battle. Will you be writing up the spousal combat too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 That's great that you're able to share your hobby with your wife. What army does she play? Good job pulling out a draw. It was looking rather ugly after that turn two where all your tanks whiffed and his dreadnought dealt some serious pain (after a lucky scatter free initial drop -- from the pics it looks like he would have mishapped if he scattered at all). I guess you needed to deploy just a touch closer to each other to prevent that. Nice to see a Banewolf in action. It died quick but it did it's job first. Great unit for to hold in reserve to counter attack pod armies. My wife plays with my marine army normally. She has used the guard in the past though enjoys marines. It is great that she does play as it is something we can do together that isn't some crappy program on tv etc. Tbh the only reason for the draw was the stupid cards. If we didn't use them it would have been a massacre for me. Yeah a touch closer would have been good though really I should have been able to deal with the dread with the amount of firepower thrown at it. Damn trees and rolling hits! I knew he favoured podding his men in so the banewolf was there as deterrent and completed its job admirably in my eyes. Not sure what if anything I would have changed though. A good read, and an exciting battle. Will you be writing up the spousal combat too? Thanks for the comments. It was a nice and fun battle which was good as it was swinging both ways each turn bar my 2! Indeed I shall, will get pics and write up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Spousal combat is probably not a term to be using... :P A nice close game is always the most exciting :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherthefallenangel Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I would like to give you a little tactica advice when playing a droppod army. The key to securing the advantage lies in your deployment. If you place your tanks(artillery and russes) back about 3" from your table edge. In a box formation with the artillery in back and russes and chimeras in front. Space them out so you have a little room to move but not enough room for droppods/deep strikers to land. Then surround your tanks with infantry that are also spaced out to maximum cohesive distance. Then outside of your (meat shields)infantry place your ADL leaving a hole somewhere to allow your tanks to eventually leave your firebase. If done right your opponent won't be able to drop in melta range and if they do drop close to your firebase your whole army can hammer them right back off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 I would like to give you a little tactica advice when playing a droppod army. The key to securing the advantage lies in your deployment. If you place your tanks(artillery and russes) back about 3" from your table edge. In a box formation with the artillery in back and russes and chimeras in front. Space them out so you have a little room to move but not enough room for droppods/deep strikers to land. Then surround your tanks with infantry that are also spaced out to maximum cohesive distance. Then outside of your (meat shields)infantry place your ADL leaving a hole somewhere to allow your tanks to eventually leave your firebase. If done right your opponent won't be able to drop in melta range and if they do drop close to your firebase your whole army can hammer them right back off the board. Thanks for the advice, I am struggling picturing it but I think I get what you mean. Tbh in this game with the amount of firepower I threw at the dread should have seen it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 I appreciate that I am a battle report down at the moment, but had another game last night with the better half and it was 500 points zone mortalis.I took the role as a defender, and she took the attacker role. Seemed right for fluff sense.I used,1x lord commissar with cara, emperors benediction, and the relic sword. 1001x priest 251x ogryn mob 1301x scions with bp on sgt and hot shot volley gun. 801 x vets cara, krak, 2xmelta, 1xhf 1151x armoured sentinel with plasma cannon. 50. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_201433.jpg The wife used, Captain, combi-flamer, power maul, melta bombs = 120 1x sternguard squad, = 120 1x Dread Plasma cannon = 110 2x tacts flamer in both = 75 each The mission was kill points and table corners. I won the roll for deployment and going first. This was how my command bunker was laid out waiting for the pesky marines. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_201334.jpg This is how we set up, and my strategem points went towards paying for a sentry gun. (worst mistake ever as it wasn't used once). http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_202931.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_202942.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_202948.jpg This is how the scene looked after my turn two, (notice the mistake of not running my Commissar combat reaction unit). Means pain later on for me. The white circle in front of my veterans is what my wife used for her strategem and it represented a breach that she could then use as an entry point. (Much better choice). http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_203635.jpg This is the scene after my third turn. Due to lack of running on the previous turn I screwed up my charge this turn and the commissar and priest weren't in range to fight. Also the priest rolled the first double 6 on a leadership check to get a war hymn off. Previous to that, my Wifes sternguard arrived and killed (thankfully for me due to bad rolling using kraken rounds (ap4)) all the lasgun vets. Her dread ran round the corner and her tacts followed a little slower. My 3 had the vets shooting the sternguard and due to the melta not working as i rolled 2's to it, only took one marine down. Then the combat happened, i forgot my hammer of wrath, forgot that I have now lost furious charge, and only ad the ogryns do anything. thankfully the marines only inflicted 2 wounds. unfortunately the wounds i made were all saved. Thankfully being fearless ensured i wasn't cut down. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_210124.jpg http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_210138.jpg This next one is after My wifes turn 3, her tacts arrived with the captain and flamed/shot up all the remaining vets, and the Dread got a hull point knocked off the sentinel. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_211442.jpg My turn started well, the sentinel took out some tacticals and some wounds from the captain. During the assault phase i Somehow got 3 kills on the Sternguard though one ogryn did fall, all this though with no commissar or priest still as they couldn't move round to join in. This is how the scene was set for the end of my turn 4. http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_213317.jpg I then forgot to take pictures for the rest of the game until the end. oops. The short of it was the Marines first dealt with the ogryn by shooting, then the commissar and priest in combat, my scions came into force killing a few tacts and another wound off the captain, the sentinel missed, again, then they decided that making saves was for loosers, and promptly died until only one remained. Her turn 6 had the dread charge the sentinel and wreck it by glancing blows in combat and then the captain finished off the last Scion. Here is the sorry picture haha, http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e301/chrisburnett2010/geekery/20140919_220818.jpg All in all it was a good fun game and had it been objectives would have been a different story having a totally different set of objectives. i was happy with the list though not sure way to do to improve it. anyone got any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scatmandoo Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 updated the Report above..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 That's a lot of things to forget, something to improve upon next time! Your DIY set up looks great, how did you find it as a Guard player? Must be a drawback to not have decent firing range but there should be plenty of opportunity to jump round corners and blast away? I think your list wasn't bad, for something like this you can't leverage the advantage of numbers much so it makes sense to go more elite. BS4 would make the shots you do get better too but I'm not familiar with Zone Mortalis so I'm not sure if it has many special rules if at all? Keep the battle reports coming, they're always a good read! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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