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Brother GreyCrow, it would seem that the Eagles of Glory would be rather suspicious of the Black Judges. Their fear tactics are reminiscient of the Night Lords, and the fact that everyone is guilty wouldn't sit well with the Eagles either, they believe they're the goody two-shoesiest of all the Liber Chapters and have done no wrong. It is possible that they would even result to firing upon Black Judge ships since you mention that astartes dissapear whilst working alongside the Judges, this would be more than enough reason to assume there is heresy occuring.

Edited by ArcticPaladin, 23 June 2014 - 11:08 PM.

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The Iron Ravagers like the cut of the Judges jib. An error only becomes a mistake when you refuse to correct it.
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The Black Judges, eh? I can see them having disagreements with my Conflagrators on what to do with prisoners... laugh.png

 

Prisoners ? What prisoners ? ohmy.png

 

Brother GreyCrow, it would seem that the Eagles of Glory would be rather suspicious of the Black Judges. Their fear tactics are reminiscient of the Night Lords, and the fact that everyone is guilty wouldn't sit well with the Eagles either, they believe they're the goody two-shoesiest of all the Liber Chapters and have done no wrong. It is possible that they would even result to firing upon Black Judge ships since you mention that astartes dissapear whilst working alongisde the Judges, this would be more than enough reason to assume there is heresy occuring.

 

Why pin every Astartes disappearance on the Black Judges... The Liber Sector is dark, and full of terrors ! 

 

The Iron Ravagers like the cut of the Judges jib. An error only becomes a mistake when you refuse to correct it.

 

It's true that machine is less prone to fault than man... but the Black Judges are watching... always !

 

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So far, I really like where all of this is going... It's a bit different while not too goofy, and with the A-Team of Liberites Chapters that are present in the Sector, I hope the Astra Militarum Commanders are decent, otherwise this sector will get very messy, very fast !

 

Overall, I feel it is starting to represent well the suspicion and eerieness that surrounds the 21st fouding :)


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The Black Judges, eh? I can see them having disagreements with my Conflagrators on what to do with prisoners... laugh.png

 

Prisoners ? What prisoners ? ohmy.png

 

Yeah. Exactly. What prisoners? devil.gif whistlingW.gif


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Starting to feel quite sorry for the Lords being marooned with this lot.
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It'll be one big dysfunctional family :)
Maybe we need some chapters that are actually liked by the other liberite chapters added aswell! :P

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Ooooohhh.

There were Chapters founded by the Nova Terra High Lords, after all. It'd be another reason for why they've got the exact background on all the Primatchs a tad...skewed, and it would be another reason for them to loathe the Blades, who do a lot of poking around in odd corners and interrogations of local Heretics (who may well have knowledge of the Kin's secret.)

In other topics, for the Ten Heavenly Lords I have:

Guilliman: War
Russ: Learning, Wisedom, and Magic
Ferrus Manus: Strength, Beasts, Storms
Corax: Trickery, Theft, Deception
Vulkan: Death, Punishment, Fire
The Lion: Home, Mothers, Agriculture

I am open to suggestions for Sanguinus, The Khan, Dorn, and the Emperor.

 

Sanguinius: Art, Purity and the Sky.

 

Just out of curiosity, do the Kindred paint their jawline black? the name evokes an image of an unhelmeted marine performing a ritual and taking ash or something and rubbing it along his jawline.

 

Perhaps it's Darth Maul-style tattoos? Maybe the higher a Kinsmen's standing in the Chapter the more intricate and extensive his tattoos are to the point where the Chapter Master, or "Grandfather" as they call it, has almost no part of his skin untattooed?

 

The Lords Inviolate and the Sons of Calderon are currently (I believe, I haven't been reading the past couple pages with looking for votes in mind) tied up. If you haven't said which one you want to lead the other Liberite Chapters, have your say now. That said, if it ends up as a tie, I got my mind on something special to do with that. But ultimately, I'll pick my own favorite as the tie-breaker.

 

I'll throw in my vote for the Lords Inviolate, Emperor knows we'll need someone likes them to keep this motley crew of Chapters working together rather than constantly trying to throttle one another. biggrin.png

 

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Scarlet Sentinels Inter-Chapter Relationships:

 

Lords Inviolate: Regarded as highly-valued allies and honourable brothers-in-arms, the Lords Inviolate are one of the few groups in the Cluster that the Sentinels trust implicitly following the Lords' then-Chapter Master speaking out in support of the Sentinels' accomplishments after the insult of the Libertas Conclave. The Sentinels also feel that both groups are of shared purpose, that both chapters strive not simply to conquer the Liber Cluster but to shape it into something the Imperium can be proud of, a productive, self-sufficent bastion of civilization to rival even Ultramar.

 

Sons of Calderon: Though their overly-close relationship with the Mechanicum is a concern, the Sentinels nonetheless have a great deal of respect for the Sons as their forces regularly work together accompanying expeditionary fleets. This has lead to both Chapters reaping great rewards from the worlds their charges reclaim, one of the most notable being the recovery of the ancient Gloriana-class Battleship Fearless from a decaying orbit around a xeno-inhabitited Gas Giant.

 

Conflagrators: Ferociously violent and viciously fanatical, the Scarlet Sentinels bear a great dislike of the Conflagrators, their utter disregard for the extensive collateral damage they cause has caused the two chapters to but heads on more than one occasion, thankfully, however, Sentinel commanders has notoriously hard heads with which to persecute these confrontations. Both forces generally have an unspoken agreement to avoid each other whenever possible, though a significant-enough foe can force them to co-operate, if only until the threat is dealt with.

 

Eagles of Glory: Perhaps the Sentinels' most (im)famous relationship, the Eagles of Glory are heavily disliked at best by their sister Chapter, outright despised at worst. Though the two originally began as steadfast allies, the events of their joint liberation campaign, culminating in the Libertas Insult burned whatever bridges of brotherhood may have existed between the two. For their part, the Eagles have never truely understood what they did to offend their brothers so and this ignorance has only served to inflame the Sentinels' loathing for their kin. To this day both forces avoid each other, only working together when forced into it and even then they barely acknowledge each other.

 

Blackjaw Kindred: Although some within the Sentinels look down on them as savages most battle-brother agree the Blackjaw Kindred's primal prowess in war is at least worthy of respect, though even that is strained thanks to their almost-sycophantic relationship with the pyromanical Conflagrators and a recent incident between the Kindred and Sentinels over the ownership of the Sentinels Strike Cruiser Golden Hind. The Sentinels fervently hope that the Kindred will one day distance themselves from the Conflagrators as well as eventually become more civilized, but until then they have no problem fighting alongside the Blackjaw, so long as they follow orders...

 

Iron Ravagers: Like the Sons of Calderon, the Ravagers are another Chapter the Scarlet Sentinels often find themselves working alongside as they escort reclamation fleets throughout the Cluster. However, unlike the Sons, the Ravagers' rampant replacement of the flesh with unfeeling machinery and coldly logical attitude means the two rarely do so gladly, both groups keeping to themselves beyond co-operation in battle. The Ravagers' pathological disdain for any weakness or inefficiency leaving the Sentinels highly uncomfortable, and neither force relishes the idea of being around one another for long.

 

Blades of the Lion: Mercurial and secretive, the Sentinels view the Blades of the Lion with a deep mistrust, having more than once been a victim of the Blade's tendency to depart the field of battle without reason or warning. As a result it has become common amongst the Sentinels that, if the Blades are also present in a warzone, they will form their battleplans as if they were fighting alone, knowing the Lion's cubs will most likely be of little-to-no help.

 

Aetheric Swords: While the Sentinels find the Swords' spiritual side to be somewhat tiresome, the Scarlet Sentinels nevertheless bear a warm affection for these wild sons of Guilliman. Their respectful nature, tireless devotion and fiercely honourable warrior-culture striking a chord amongst the Sentinels, especially those recruited from the mountainous kingdoms of Caledon. The Chapters are also highly compatible in terms of warfare, both utilising similiar modus operandii in battle. The Scarlet Sentinels relish any chance to fight alongside their Grennarchian brothers, and several of the more spiritually-minded Sentinels have been honoured to have their recorded voices join the rapturous hymns of the Swords' Undying Choir.

 

The Allseeing: To be added later once more info is availible.

 

Doomsayers: Given the Doomsayers' fleet being so spread-out across the Cluster the Scarlet Sentinels currently have had little in the way of contact with their elusive cousins, although word of the Chapter's proficency in void warfare has reached the ears of many battle-brothers who are eager to test the veracity of such tales


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The Khan: Law, Sea and Civilization

The Emperor? Uh, he encompasses all of them. The Primarchs are just facets of the Emperor, and are his will made manifest.

What's that, you caught a glimpse of one of our ceremonies, and found it odd that while each of the Primarchs was mentioned, the Emperor was not mentioned even once?

You must have missed the beginning and end, which was, like, all about the Emperor and super important, you know? Maybe next time, try sticking around before jumping to conclusions.
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The Conlagrators and Sons so far are my favorite.Finished writing more for the All Seeing that has to be the most I have written sweat.gif . EVER!!!!


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Hmmm...originally, I was just going to have the Kin stain their teeth solid black to mark the transition from iniate to full fledged battle brother, but I like the idea that as they progress in rank, they are allowed to tatto and mark their faces ever more elaborately.

The only problem is, I've been imagining Grandfather Baptiste with a beard that would shame the entire cast of Duck Dynasty, with which would interfere with elaborate facial ink.

Hmmm....perhaps some of the Kin's Circles (Companies) devoted to the War King or the Storm Bringer practice that tradition, but Baptiste, like most of the Chapter Masters, is a follower of Grandfather Wolf (Russ).

Meanwhile, I like the idea of playing off Khan's unpredictability....perhaps the Sea and Travel? And like Guilliman and Corax, Jaghatai tends to be more appeased than revered, although he does have his devoted followers in the Blackjaw's naval forces.

On the other hand, having Khan with the Law and Civilization areas of expertise would enrage any White Scars successors that turn up at least as much as turning Jonson into the hearth-goddess did to the Blades. And he could still be venerated by the blue water, brown water, and black space assets.

Cormac, I'm sold!

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Own it, you may, but control it, you can't. As countless artists, and apparently you yourself, have found, if you post something on the web it's inviting both those with noble intentions and those with unsavory ones to have access to it. You're obviously more experienced here than the average liberite, but I wouldn't imagine that claiming something on the web is as simple as saying "this is mine", at least in the eyes of the law. There sites out there devoted to original content that include specific legal notices about the ownership of things posted. The B&C can't provide that, as most everything posted here belongs first and foremost to Games Workshop.
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Hmmm...originally, I was just going to have the Kin stain their teeth solid black to mark the transition from iniate to full fledged battle brother, but I like the idea that as they progress in rank, they are allowed to tatto and mark their faces ever more elaborately.

The only problem is, I've been imagining Grandfather Baptiste with a beard that would shame the entire cast of Duck Dynasty, with which would interfere with elaborate facial ink.

Hmmm....perhaps some of the Kin's Circles (Companies) devoted to the War King or the Storm Bringer practice that tradition, but Baptiste, like most of the Chapter Masters, is a follower of Grandfather Wolf (Russ).

Meanwhile, I like the idea of playing off Khan's unpredictability....perhaps the Sea and Travel? And like Guilliman and Corax, Jaghatai tends to be more appeased than revered, although he does have his devoted followers in the Blackjaw's naval forces.

On the other hand, having Khan with the Law and Civilization areas of expertise would enrage any White Scars successors that turn up at least as much as turning Jonson into the hearth-goddess did to the Blades. And he could still be venerated by the blue water, brown water, and black space assets.

Cormac, I'm sold!

If they are all getting a fancy moniker, coupled with some classical polytheistic descriptions . . .

Perhaps the Khan is the Judge in the Deep? Sort of like the Drowned God, with naval/ship-based Paladins of Order.

Perhaps with his control of the currents, the patron deity of human civilization and order also has claim to fate, or is seen as being its captain. Ooh, perhaps literally, with the Khan taking the helm of a figurative, allegorical but often artfully depicted craft, from which he guides the course of history as if events, people, entire worlds were nothing more than obedient ships in his all-encompassing fleet.

Could go well with the idea that he is to be appeased, not implored.

Edit: Boarding squads, bearing the jagged red markings of their patron upon their void-darkened armor, proving to the enemy just how swift justice can be.

Edit edit: Would everyone who posted a Space Marine Painter image with the grids post one without the grid? I could do it myself, but I might not make the right color choices.

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Brother Teetengee, I am a bit confused about the current status of The Angels Exultant. You described that they had their priest and chaplains eradicated by xenos and the battle brothers fell into the rage. After many brothers had gone berzerk, the few that remained sane were struck down by their bretheren. The berzerk were than escorted to their space vessels and were sent off from the planet. So what remains of the chapter is a bunch of berzerk battle brothers, do they eventually snap out of it and regain order? or do they descend further into madness and destroy themselves from the inside out? Or possibly none of the above, it's your call brother. :) I'm just interested in what their current status is.

Brother deathspectersgt7, you have a good start to your chapter. You stated that The All Seeing have been known to withdraw in the middle of battles, why is that? Also, why do they not get along well with the Inquisition and what were they assigned to do that brought them to the Liber Cluster? I feel if you could elaborate on these things you will have a very solid chapter.

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DSS7, how do you feel about changing "the All Seeing" to "the All-Seers?"

Fits better in my mind (We are the Seers, rather than we are the Seeing), I feel.

Edit: The Black Judges, Angels Exultant, and All Seeing are included. The Doomsayers are pending further development. There are three slots remaining.

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I've added to my blurb, hoping I'm around 400 words now ish, will have to degrid later though mr. Cormac (on tablet and it has a right wobbly when I try and use the painter)
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It is, and they are added to the list.

Which leaves two more slots!

Would like to see some Raven Guard and White Scar successors get in.

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The Black Judges could be RG, they certaintly show the preference for stealth.There are a few other chapters of unknown descent aswell.
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I'll do a blurb on how the Ravagers see their cousin chapters tonight when I have a minute, but in broad strokes, I think they'll actually get along reasonably well with the more 'orderly' chapters. I see them as being one of the main supporters of the Lords Inviolate, harking back to the bond between Guilliman and Manus, and respecting the rationality of the Lords approach. While the Sentinels might have some reservations about them, the Ravagers actually like working with them - they would admire the Sentinels as stoic, ordered and merciless.

The Sons of Calderon and the Ravagers are also quite close, based on a mutual reverence for the machine as a means to enhance humanity.

As I said, just a quick sketch, and will think more about the others when I have a minute.
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The Black Falcons

 

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The Black Falcons are a Chapter on the brink. On arrival to their home system they were set upon by a large fleet of Ork pirates. After a prolonged space battle, which saw many ship to ship boarding actions by both sides, they were victorious and the Ork fleet was scattered. But victory came at a great cost as the Black Falcons were reduced to below half strength. Many of the original command structure was lost as well as most of the veteran 1st Company. The reeling Chapter was resolute and vowed to rebuild in the face of overwhelming odds.

 

The Chapter made its home on a backwater feral world named Scythia and with the help of the Saneslau Mechanicum, established  their fortress monastery in the wreckage of the downed battlebarge Iron Talon. In the four centuries after losing contact with The Imperium, the original colonists devolved into feral tribes who make their homes in small villages clustered around the ruins of long dead xenos cities. None of the xenos technology remains only the husks of once magnificent structures taken over by jungle growth still stand as testament to the alien society. The Scythians are a superstitious people and only the bravest venture into the ruins for they believe the spirits of the xenos still roam there. Tribal warfare is common as space and resources are scarce. It is from these hardy people that the Black Falcons began to try and replenish their losses. Aspirants from the various tribes of Scythia must travel to one of the many ruins that dot the planet's surface and spend a week there surviving with nothing but a knife. Many vicious beasts and poisonous plants live in the jungles and those that return from the test with a piece of the ruins as proof are chosen for induction into the chapter. the Black Falcons maintain an aloof presence on Scythia contacting the populace only during the Time of Trials. The people of Scythia in turn view them as Angels of the Sky King(their name for The Emperor) who have been sent to take their best young warriors to fight by his side in The Battle for The Heavens

 

The Black Falcons are scions of Corax descended from the Revilers. As such they excel in stealth and hit and run tactics. They also practice the rapid insertion form of warfare that is used by their progenitors. This became instrumental in helping them rebuild as they were able to minimize their losses during any engagement in which they participated. It did not help their relations with Codex-compliant Chapters such as The Lords Inviolate and the Scarlet Sentinels who look upon their style of warfare with disdain. They have a particularly strong relationship with The Eagles of Glory. This is due to assistance given by them in the form of equipment and supplies during the early stages of the Black Falcon's rebuilding process. And on more than one occasion Black Falcons squads that had spent weeks behind enemy lines were able to complete their missions due to the timely application of overwhelming firepower by The Eagles of Glory. The Black Falcons have not forgotten this and work with them whenever possible.

 

The Black Falcons are now at around three quarter strength. They still maintain the style of battle favored by their genesires. They have a relatively good relationship with the Saneslau Mechanicum and have assisted them in recovering equipment and materials lost during the first colonization of the Liber Cluster. The 4th Company under the command of Captain Samuel Therrien are currently investigating reports of cult activity in the nearby Thravian System. Contact was lost and the Chapter has sent elements of the 1st and 6th to ascertain their status. 

 

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With the Eagle's of Glory's reputation on helping everyone, even if it means stepping on toes, it may be possible that they had agreed to send supplies and weapons to the Black Falcons in order to assist them in the rebuilding process, in exchange for the Black Falcons' expertise in reconnaissance and their skill in hit-and-run tactics being a good distraction for advancing the Eagles' heavy fire powah.
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The Heralds of Letum

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“We honor Letum with our lives and the lives of His foes.”

 

Proud sons of Jaghatai Khan, the Heralds of Letum were created during the 21st Founding. Although initially intended for Segementum Tempestus, the Chapter was accidentally assigned to the Liber Cluster expedition through a simple clerical error. The scribe responsible was executed for his incompetence, but by then the fleet had long since left.

 

The Chapter chose their name upon taking the world of Libitum as their home world. The feral natives clash with each other over resources in their underground settlements, and as worship of their version of the Emperor, the death god Letum. The Heralds view themselves as angels of their god, and will go to great lengths to slay enemies of the Imperium. The Chapter refuses to recruit psykers or fight alongside them. Instead the Heralds have the office of the Bone-Seers, Chaplain-mystics who maintain Chapter records and often resolve important decisions through reading bones for the answer. The bones used are always from proud heroes of the Chapter who still guide the Heralds in death. The Bone-Seers also maintain records of foes the Chapter has fought, with notes on successful tactics against those enemies. The contents of these records are often debated amongst the Chapter’s Captains, and occasionally improved upon.

 

Like their parent Chapter, the White Scars, the Heralds of Letum favor lightning assaults. Unlike the White Scars, the Heralds’ armoury is almost exclusively composed of aircraft, which spearhead all of their campaigns. The Chapter maintains a small number of tanks, which are only deployed when needed. The Heralds of Letum prefer to fight alone, often refusing the aid of others. This has led to tense relations with the Eagles of Glory, whose almost constant offers of aid irritate the Heralds greatly. The Heralds rarely attend the Liberite Conclave, though when they do it is often to deliver important information to the Conclave. Such was the case when the Heralds brought news of the approach of Waaagh! Guznat, which saved many Imperial worlds.

 

The Heralds of Letum regularly send strike forces into the darker corners of the Liber Cluster. The Chapter has slain many possible threats before they could endanger the Liber Primus Sub-Sector. It is believed that several uninhabited worlds the reclamation fleets have encountered are the work of the Heralds of Letum. The Heralds do not care if their actions are recognised, only that they do the Emperor’s work.

Feel free to give C&C. I'm also open to suggestions for the Chapter emblem.
 

Edit: Can someone help me with getting the Space Marine Painter image to come up properly?
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With the Eagle's of Glory's reputation on helping everyone, even if it means stepping on toes, it may be possible that they had agreed to send supplies and weapons to the Black Falcons in order to assist them in the rebuilding process, in exchange for the Black Falcons' expertise in reconnaissance and their skill in hit-and-run tactics being a good distraction for advancing the Eagles' heavy fire powah.

 

I like that idea! I have changed it to reflect a more favorable relationship between the two chapters. smile.png



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Woot, I'm in ! :D

 

The 2 new Chapters are very interesting as well, it's good to have true sons of Corax and the Khan !

 

Regarding the Black Judges parent chapters, much is left to speculation. The 21st founding is known to have tried to use modified gene seed, many of which resulted in catastrophic failures. While some Chapters are tolerated like the Black Dragons, others have been completely wiped out like the Flame Falcons.

 

Some rumours that stock or modified traitor gene seed has been used for several Chapters, namely :

- The Minotaurs, with their temper fits are not without reminding of the World Eaters

- The Sons of Antaeus have stronger endurance than other Astartes and even better physiology, not unlike the Death Guard

 

Other experiments went completely wrong :

- Lamenters, trying to cure the Black Rage, resulted in a bad luck brian chapter

 

There's something definitely wrong with the Black Judges, that is evidenced by how they operate but are they bad guys or are they just weird blokes ? I wanted confusion between potential sons of Corax (stealth was more their attribute than was Kurze's) with modified seed intended to cure the gene flaws, and a possibility of Night Lords seed being used. The Black Judges are elusive and don't pay gene tithe nor stock other gene seed than the one they recover from fallen brothers, so the mystery remains.

 

I also wanted a potential unusual Chapter that leads to lots of speculation for everyone and possible open conflicts with other Chapters who disapprove of the methods used by the Black Judges.


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Okay, here's a slightly more polished version of my initial list (with added addendums), just to keep up with the Joneses.

 

The Lords Inviolate - The Conflagrators don't get on well with the Lords Inviolate, seeing them as manipulative and haughty. Choice words have been said to this effect often enough. With the Conflagrators antagonising the Lords at every turn, it is surprising to the Conflagrators that the Lords continue to behave in a professional matter when they share the battlefield. Dislike them as they may, they still consider the Lords as competent in battle craft.
 
The Sons Of Calderon - The Sons, practising a form of the Imperial Creed similar enough to the one the Conflagrators are familiar with, are relatively well regarded by the Conflagrators. The fact that they appear to be in the back pocket of the Saneslau Mechanicus is, however, deemed a serious problem. In any dispute that the Mechanicus is involved in, the Conflagrators will usually side against them, regardless of where the Sons stand. The God-Emperor is the one true saviour of mankind, not the Omnissiah.
 
The Eagles of Glory - The Conflagrators look upon the Eagles with disdain. The Eagle's attitude of their righteous duty and their pride rub the Conflagrators the wrong way almost as much as when uncalled for aid the Eagles provide upset any plans the Conflagrators had at combating an enemy. It has been known for the Conflagrators to quit the field before the battle is over, such is the disgust held for the oblivious Eagles. With this in mind, the Conflagrators would rather perish than call for aid from an Eagle. With worship of the God-Emperor the only common ground the Chapters hold, 'incidents' between the two Chapters would likely be more prevalent had they held divergent beliefs.
 
The Blackjaw Kindred - Although the beliefs of the Blackhaw Kindred concern the Conflagrators, and indeed they take it upon themselves to 'enlighten' their brothers in arms, the Chapters often coordinate efforts to a greater degree than they would with any other of the Liber Praeses. The Conflagrators also suspect the recruitment processes the Blackjaw Kindred utilise, considering it somewhat sub-par even when they have never witnessed such rituals in person.
 
The Iron Ravagers - Deeply distrusted by the Conflagrators, the Iron Ravagers are considered far too far gone in the service of the Mechanicus to be deemed worthy to fight with. They also find the lack of faces amongst the Ravagers quite disturbing and will actively avoid contact under all but the most dire of circumstances.
 
The Blades of the Lion - Another chapter deeply distrusted by the Conflagrators, the Blades are viewed with contempt for the cowardly manner at which they flee a battle before victory is secured. Such is the relationship between them, no love is lost when Conclave meetings devolve into arguments and accusations with the Blades, usually spurred on by the Conflagrators, as and when they attend.
 
The Scarlet Sentinels - Relations between the Conflagrators and the Sentinels are frigid, and some would say standoffish. The Conflagrators hold no openly hostile views of the Sentinels but do consider their prowess in the void to be a useful asset. Where situations have soured in the past, Conflagrators will honour calls for a duel without fail but rarely do they rise victorious over one of the Sentinels. With a mutual dislike of the Eagles mollifying any underlying antagonism the Conflagrators might exhibit, they refrain from being too uncivil towards their sometime allies.
 
The All-Seeing - The Conflagrators suspect the All-Seeing as heretics but have yet to prove the allegation. This, obviously, means the relations between the two are hostile. The Conflagrators will openly fire upon any All-Seeing they come across on a battlefield, caring not for any protestations against them. The bad blood between them usually results in both groups sitting as far away as possible from one another at the Conclaves they both attend.
 
The Aetheric Swords - Of all the Chapters in the Liber Cluster, the Conflagrators behave best amongst the company of the Swords. The battle-hymns soothe them, reminding them of the chants they themselves practise. Although the Chapter remains wary of the ever-present Librarians of the Swords, they consider the advice of the Swords worth listening too, even to the point where the Conflagrators will cede theatre command to the Swords.
 
 
The Doomsayers - The Doomsayers are valued amongst the Conflagrators for their expertise in void warfare and consider them to be eminently useful in frontal assaults. Also of note is the respect the Conflagrators hold in the Doomsayers for standing up and saying 'no' to the Saneslau Mechanicus when they asked for the teleportarium technology the Doomsayers own.  
 
The Black Judges - The Judges, according to many a Conflagrator, are good at putting the fear of the Emperor into the citizens of the Liber Cluster. They do have incorrect ideas about letting prisoners go, though. The Judges and the Conflagrators have often disagreed on the use of prisoners, however this rarely comes to blows. Their MO is still considered very odd for an Astartes by the Conflagrators, some even seeing such activities as an insult to their gene-bred right as 'Angels of Death'. 
 
Angels Exultant - In the eyes of the Conflagrators, they are rabid dogs that need to be put down, like any other heretic. They are foul followers of Khorne that deserve little more than a fiery demise, one that the Conflagrators are all too happy to help with. 
 
The Black Falcons - The Conflagrators grudgingly respect the Falcons for their speed and tactics but think that they lack the stomach for head-on assaults, where the 'real fighting' is. The 'Sky-King' malarkey is something that the Conflagrators believe they need to replace with the true Creed. They take every opportunity to evangelise to the Falcons, whether they like it or not.  
 
The Heralds of Letum - Seen as loners, with little in the way of heavier firepower by the Conflagrators. As they usually fight alone and rarely visit the Conclave, the Conflagrators are merely dismissive of them by dint of natural attitude rather than genuine dislike or mutual loathing. They barely interact beyond mutual greetings but are usually seen as unimportant at Conclave meetings by the Conflagrators.

Edited by Olisredan, 24 June 2014 - 09:48 AM.
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One un-gridded image, coming right up:

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I'm a bit torn on the organisation of the Aetheric Swords.

 

Part of me is thinking 'just stick with Codex stuff', but another part is going 'name the Battle Companies (making them Clan-Companies), have six of them, and combine the three Reserve companies into one larger 'Hearth-Company' that seldom sees battle at it's full strength.

 

And honestly, I don't know if that's even a good idea or just me talking complete drivel. sweat.gif

 

I'll also go back and add the AS' thoughts on the other Chapters that have sprung up.turned.gif

 

 

EDIT:

Alright, I'll have to add some of them later, I've suddenly got family coming around!


Edited by Ace Debonair, 24 June 2014 - 10:06 AM.






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