temneb Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Hi guys did i read it right?, you prefer these "inductii" instead of destroyers right? Inductii are basically +1 Str tactical marines, that don't score or give up vp's. You need a special character to run them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Hi guys did i read it right?, you prefer these "inductii" instead of destroyers right? literally everything is preferable to destroyers. Lord Asvaldir 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Except maybe headhunters :lol: Brother Sutek 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Come on really? I like the style of this nadelauncher or whatever it is :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Except maybe headhunters Ouch. My Alpha pride. Touche. Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Do they really suck like you say? And additional would you play Cataphractii as Devourers or should i leave this idea too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Ya destroyers are fairly subpar. It's a fairly expensive unit if all you want is 2 small ap3 blasts, and rad phange rarely comes in handy since you usually target one wound model. Phosphex bombs are nice, but against it's an expensive unit to be escorting just one model carrying a good weapon, while everyone else just has bolt pistols. Plus given how short range phosphex bombs are, you need to get well into enemy assault range, yet even with counter attack destroyers are pretty bad in assault, they are just tacticals with ccws basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzilla Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Sooooo.... Ive decided world eaters are going to be my next army. With the next box due out soon for that mini armour goodness. Unlike my alpha legion who I built as a jack of all trades, I do want to specialise with the world eaters, and I've been considering the jump pack rites of war... Either looks fairly viable to me, I think both synergise well with eaters, long charge ranges, hit and run for double-buff (though thinking about it what would last three turns of combat anyway?) And assault squads are really Really good troops for the worldies now. So far as I can tell... Budget is somewhat of a concern (doing a masters this year) but I'm no stranger to sculpting and conversions. How would people go about making a jump pack core, into a well rounded list at 3k points? Edit: Here is one of my first drafts; +++ World eater drop (3000pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (Age of Darkness) ++ + HQ + Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour, Jump Pack, Power Weapon, Refractor Field] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] ····May be upgraded to one of these Consul roles: [Chaplain] Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour, Jump Pack, Power Weapon] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] ····May be upgraded to one of these Consul roles: [Primus Medicae] Legion Praetor [Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Paragon Blade] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] ····Master of the Legion [Drop Assault Vanguard] + Troops + Legion Assault Squad [Combat Shields, 19x Legion Assault Space Marines, 3x Power Weapon] ····Legion Assault Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Legion Assault Squad [19x Legion Assault Space Marines, 3x Power Weapon] ····Legion Assault Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Legion Assault Squad [19x Legion Assault Space Marines, 3x Power Weapon] ····Legion Assault Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Legion Assault Squad [19x Legion Assault Space Marines, 3x Power Weapon] ····Legion Assault Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Elites + Apothecarion Detachment ····Legion Apothecary [Jump Pack] ········Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] ····Legion Apothecary [Jump Pack] ········Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] ····Legion Apothecary [Jump Pack] ········Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon ····Cortus Dreadnought [Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, 2x Graviton Gun] ····Cortus Dreadnought [Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, 2x Graviton Gun] ····Cortus Dreadnought [Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, 2x Graviton Gun] + Fast Attack + Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod + Legion + Legion Astartes [Traitor] ····XII: World Eaters [blood Madness] Edited September 29, 2016 by Robzilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Thing is, the world eater's berzerker assault RoW is so freakin powerful that you want to run it 100% of the time if you are using WE. Run that same list using BA and you won't regret it. side bar - you guys that have tacked on chainaxes to the bolter marines from B@C, how did you model that? Just stick them on their legs or backpacks like they are maglocked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzilla Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 My plan is to use anvil industries chain axes, and remodel the arms. A couple of well placed incisions with a hobby knife and you end up with a completely different angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 i have 10 already built with the bolters, i built the rest as despoilers though, so i was thinking how to add the axes to the already finished dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Do they really suck like you say? And additional would you play Cataphractii as Devourers or should i leave this idea too? Let me point that out like this: In my last game against Alpha Legion my opponent had a unit of ten Destroyers with Jump Packs in his army. 340 points. They where crushed in one Assault Phase by my Inductii + my chaplain. 240 points. One. Assault Phase. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Nice So guys, i clicked a little bit in battlescribe around what I like to have now I have some questions ^^ I plan to play : +++ WE (2000pts) +++++ Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (Age of Darkness) (2000pts) +++ HQ (175pts) +Legion Praetor (175pts) [Artificer Armour, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Melta Bombs, Paragon Blade]··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]+ Troops (460pts) +Legion Assault Squad (265pts) [Chainaxe(s), 14x Legion Assault Space Marines]··Legion Assault Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist]··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]Legion Tactical Squad (195pts) [Chainaxe(s), 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines]··Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier [Dozer Blade, Twin-Linked Bolter]··Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist]··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]+ Elites (930pts) +Apothecarion Detachment (60pts)··Legion Apothecary [Jump Pack]····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon (145pts)··Cortus Dreadnought [Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter]Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon (165pts)··Cortus Dreadnought [Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon]The Red Butchers (560pts) [4x Butcher Terminator, 4x Second Power Axe]··Legion Land Raider Phobos [Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Multi-melta]··Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules]··The Devoured [2x Chainfist, Second Power Axe]+ Heavy Support (435pts) +Legion Vindicator Siege Tank Squadron (140pts)··Legion Vindicator Tank [Dozer Blade, Laser Destroyer Array, Twin-Linked Bolter]Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon (295pts)··Leviathan Siege Dreadnought [Armoured Ceramite, Leviathan Siege Drill]+ Legion +Legion Astartes [Traitor]··XII: World Eaters [blood Madness] and Puff, the Points are almost away. So guys what would u think about the HQ: - is it tooo point heavy? - someone in the Assault Marines - an Freaky guy which will driving with the Butchers in the Raider - Jetbike or what would you mean could be the best in this list for? Edited September 29, 2016 by Silk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholyechoes Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 My plan is to use anvil industries chain axes, and remodel the arms. A couple of well placed incisions with a hobby knife and you end up with a completely different angle. I was thinking the same thing, just haven't tried before. If you do it, would you mind tossing up a tutorial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robzilla Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Sure! I've currently done it with my bac alpha legion, with different weapons of course but the principal will be the same. I'll get a few pics tomorrow. Unholyechoes 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I'm genuinely surprised people aren't doing more of "The Crimson Path" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Its mostly because the Crimson Path only comes into effect in your opponents Deployment Zone. Not the largest of spaces for a whole game to occur. And, due to that, it means that you're not really making the most out of the benefits you get from running the RoW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Its mostly because the Crimson Path only comes into effect in your opponents Deployment Zone. Not the largest of spaces for a whole game to occur. And, due to that, it means that you're not really making the most out of the benefits you get from running the RoW. Between, Bikes, Dreadclaws, and assault marines and few real limitations I've seen some solid results and fearsome lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) But if youre up against an army that can quickly move out of their deployment zone, you having to go to them (you want to be in CC) means that you'd have to leave the deployment zone or get shot at. And if youre unlucky, the deployment zones are pretty small. If you are lucky, then theyre huge and its not much of an issue. Edited September 30, 2016 by Slipstreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 side bar - you guys that have tacked on chainaxes to the bolter marines from B@C, how did you model that? Just stick them on their legs or backpacks like they are maglocked? I used the B@C marines but have so many spare chainsword, grenade etc. wielding arms that I just snip the weapon and hand off and replaced with a FW chainaxe. My despoilers now all hold pistols, combat knives, or knuckle dusters in addition to their axe. I did originally think about just sticking an axe to the backpack or leg but it looked weird and didn't seem right. Much better to be actually holding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholyechoes Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 side bar - you guys that have tacked on chainaxes to the bolter marines from B@C, how did you model that? Just stick them on their legs or backpacks like they are maglocked? I used the B@C marines but have so many spare chainsword, grenade etc. wielding arms that I just snip the weapon and hand off and replaced with a FW chainaxe. My despoilers now all hold pistols, combat knives, or knuckle dusters in addition to their axe. I did originally think about just sticking an axe to the backpack or leg but it looked weird and didn't seem right. Much better to be actually holding them. I agree, my only worry is that my inexperience in altering arms could damage an otherwise good model. Especially with the way the bolter arms are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Mag locking the bolters to the thigh works easier and doesn't look as gooofy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Butcher Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Anvil industries chainaxes mixed with fw chainaxes, also used Anvil industries arms on BaC marines. Edited September 30, 2016 by Harrypotter Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Who holds their axe mid-haft? Not a fan I must say. Fenbain 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Butcher Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Who holds their axe mid-haft? Not a fan I must say. For balance I would imagine? Personal aesthetics aside it's the most cost effective way I've found for me to make chainaxe wielding maniacs :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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