30k Vehicle/Automata Concepts - The Manufactorum

[Marshal Rohr]

Gotcha. In trying to draw a hard line between my solar aux and imperial army by keeping everything except dedicated anti-tank detachments basic las weaponry or solid slug and then all the fancy energy weapons for the Solar Auxiliaries (energy is better for void right?)

[Charlo]

Dat Stratos Is Baller

[Ryltar Thamior]

The Bellerophon's a very nice execution of a concept that's recognizeably real-world (and real-world practicable) utilizing extant 30k parts. Well done.

(on a side note, ever since I saw a friend's olive-drab painted Chimeras next to a FoW T-34, I'd wondered about the possibilities of running an up-armoured Chimera hull with the proper-sized turret that its obvious inspiration suggested) 

[Marshal Rohr]

The Bellerophon's a very nice execution of a concept that's recognizeably real-world (and real-world practicable) utilizing extant 30k parts. Well done.

 

(on a side note, ever since I saw a friend's olive-drab painted Chimeras next to a FoW T-34, I'd wondered about the possibilities of running an up-armoured Chimera hull with the proper-sized turret that its obvious inspiration suggested)

If you google 'Leman Russ panzer conversion' you can see some chimera track and krieg Russ turrets that kind of fit the bill for this. The most difficult part of making the ballerophon will be the cabin and engine if you're using plasticard to convert it. Now I need to go back to Subtle discord's log for his plasticard walk through a to build one of these bad boys :D

[binary]

Oh I am so building one of these. Ideal use for the spare chimera chassis but what do you guys think to using the Ryza pattern vanquished turret from forge world with a cut down barrel?

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Gotcha. In trying to draw a hard line between my solar aux and imperial army by keeping everything except dedicated anti-tank detachments basic las weaponry or solid slug and then all the fancy energy weapons for the Solar Auxiliaries (energy is better for void right?)

 

Yeah that's a pretty good way of differentiating the two factions. I'm working on quite a few units for the Solar Auxilia / Imperialis Militia at the moment and with both sets, I'm planning on doing rules & background for them in both 30k & 40k for when they get posted on the blog. Imperialis Militia stuff will be for generic Imperial Guard, but the SA stuff (including the Bellerophon) will be geared towards DKoK / Siege Regiment style IG forces - what with the environmental seals etc - and ther'll be minor alterations between the different era incarnations of said units to help tie them in better.

 

Dat Stratos Is Baller

 

Thanks man, it's probably one of the designs I'm proudest of, especially considering it's the first aircraft I've designed from scratch

 

The Bellerophon's a very nice execution of a concept that's recognizeably real-world (and real-world practicable) utilizing extant 30k parts. Well done.

 

(on a side note, ever since I saw a friend's olive-drab painted Chimeras next to a FoW T-34, I'd wondered about the possibilities of running an up-armoured Chimera hull with the proper-sized turret that its obvious inspiration suggested) 

 

Yeah, I quite enjoyed making it due to the practical style that's less present in Mechanicum / Space Marine vehicles - I think the Chimera's generally lower-set tracks help a lot

 

Oh I am so building one of these. Ideal use for the spare chimera chassis but what do you guys think to using the Ryza pattern vanquished turret from forge world with a cut down barrel?

 

Yeah, that'd work - especially if you were gonna use it for 40k, where different patterns from myriad forge worlds would be more prevalent

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Welp, I like the new chassis so much I thought I'd do an AA version, especially considering the SA don't actually have any AA vehicles:

AUXILLIA HALCYON FLAK TANK:

It's armed with a Daedalus Multi-laser Array

Edited December 4, 2016 by Iron Hands Fanatic

[depthcharge12]

I'm glad someone knows their Greek mythology to name something Daedalus than Icarus - being that he was the guy that made the wings and his son fell to his death.

 

On a slight other note, I see Perturabo as alike to Daedalus and Odysseus...

[Fenbain]

I really like this one. The turret design looks unique yet still maintaining an appropriate aesthetic, and the name and choice of weapon system is excellent. Well done!

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

I'm glad someone knows their Greek mythology to name something Daedalus than Icarus - being that he was the guy that made the wings and his son fell to his death.

 

On a slight other note, I see Perturabo as alike to Daedalus and Odysseus...

 

Yeah, considering almost every Imperial anti-aircraft weapon seems to have the Icarus label, I thought I'd try a different naming convention :P

 

I really like this one. The turret design looks unique yet still maintaining an appropriate aesthetic, and the name and choice of weapon system is excellent. Well done!

 

Thanks, although the turret is significantly different, I drew from the Artemia Hellhound turret as an in-universe reference.

[Dono1979]

For some reason I have a weird fascination with how the Legions actually deploy in logistical terms - same with any other faction (e.g how do landspeeders get planetside from orbit?), so to further that, here's the Storm Eagle Transporter:

Storm Eagle Transporter:

I'm pretty happy with it to be honest - idea is it can transport Rhino or Sicaran chassis vehicles , or a pair of ordinary Dreadnoughts (they're boxy enough for the grapples to work, and any of the others would be too tall to conceivably be carried). The frontal turret would come standard with a quad heavy bolter, which could be exchanged for the autocannon or twin-lascannon versions (as seen on the Fire Raptor or Sokar Stormbird) .

There's one issue that I couldn't overcome however - due to the Storm Eagle's smaller size compared to the Thunderhawk, it wouldn't be capable of deploying it's landing gear whilst a vehicle is embarked without making said landing gear unfeasibly massive - which is fine as the VTOL jets would allow for the retrieval or deployment of vehicles, but you couldn't have them sitting on the tarmac with a vehicle embarked.

Part way there, a bit of cleanup and then a coat of paint.

While I would have loved to have used the Thunderhawk Transporter cargo arms, I think that the Sky Talon ones actually suit it a little more.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Dude, that's insane!

 

Looks awesome - plus it looks like by removing more of the fuselage, you've fixed the issue of landing with a vehicle embarked. I concur, the Sky Talon grapples do look neat - the only reason I went with the Thunderhawk style ones is because they're the only precedent in the SM range.

 

Absolutely chuffed to actually see one of my concepts in physical form - not really something I ever expected to happen

 

Many thanks Dono

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

It's been a while, and what with the next couple of months being swallowed up by Job / Masters applications & my Finals, I thought I'd give you folks a glimpse of what might potentially be coming up over the next few months & probably years (although this is as much a record for me as well):

 

LEGION TRANSPORTS:

 

Hammerhead Assault Transport:

Combination of a Malcador hull and a Caestus assault ram - pretty much a single large ram sat between the two Malcador tracks, with a raised command cupola similar to the Mastodon. Pretty much a smaller Mastodon, produced because of the astronomical production costs of the former, used for smaller breaching operations.

 

* Heavy Support (single tank)

* 10 marine capacity, dedicated transport for breachers or terminator squads

* frontal dual melta cannon (from the ordo reductor artillery battery) or TL magna-melta, plus a top-mounted TL heavy bolter mounted similar to the Spartan / Land Raider Proteus

 

LEGION SENTRY UNITS:

 

Stormfront Sentry Battery:

Largest air-dropped automated turrets depolyed by the Legions. Use the turret assembly of the space marine hunter, co-opted in the same manner as my Caelus and Legion Hydra designs, mounted upon a large blocky base.

 

* Fortification

* Battery of 1-6 Sentries

* Artillery options: quad-mortar (one specialist shell) or heavy mortar (as seen on the Griffon)

* AA options: Hydra flak cannon or skyspear missile launcher (the hunter's weapon)

* Conventional options: Laser destroyer or avenger bolt cannon

 

Skyreaper Sentinel Array:

Pretty much the Mastodon's skyreaper battery on a tarantula base, which is the right size.

 

* Fast Attack Choice

* 1 Hyperios command platform (loss of tracking applies to skyreapers too) & 1-4 skyreaper batteries

* 1 in every 2 skyreapers can be exchanged for a hyperios launcher

 

LEGION ARTILLERY TANKS:

 

Griffin Mortar Carrier:

Analogous design to my Hydra & Caelus tanks - griffon mortar on a hunter turret assembly.

 

* Added to legion artillery battery options

* Gets specialised shells similar to quad mortar

 

Maelstrom Artillery Tank:

Sicaran (Venator) hull - this design is based off a vehicle from Collected Visions, and the Sicaran is the only hull which really matches the image. Will act as highly mobile artillery, part of the initial wave of patterns as the Sicaran was intended to replace the Predator hull as the Legions' MBT.

 

* Heavy Support

* Single tank

* Unique rapid-fire mortar weapon using the accelerator tech fielded on the fellblade & sicaran

* Sponson & pintle mount identical to the sicaran venator

 

LEGION SPARTAN VARIANTS:

 

Spartan-Hermetika Siege-Command Vehicle:

Spartan Hull (without protruding frontal bay), heavier plating. As mentioned in the Damocles Command Rhino's lore.

 

* Heavy Support (single vehicle)

* 15 marine capacity (dedicated transport for terminator command squad)

* Keeps quad lascannon, swaps heavy bolters for a flamestorm cannon or magna-melta (reinforced turret), gets roof-mounted Cyclone missile launcher & command vox array

* Gets Ferromantic Invulnerability, Flare Shield & Frag Assault Launchers as standard, plus command (siege) rules

 

LEGION STORM EAGLE VARIANTS:

 

Balefire-pattern Storm Eagle Bomber:

Storm Eagle hull, exchanges frontal ramp for large ground-tracking targeting array.

 

* Fast Attack (single vehicle)

* Exchanges transport capacity for bombing bay, multiple bomb types

* Keeps Tempest / Hellstrike missiles + heavy bolter options, but swaps vengeance missiles for anti-aircraft rocket pods

 

LEGION BATTLE TANKS:

 

Predator Dominus Battle Tank:

 

* Predator with turret graviton cannon

 

Predator Incinerator Battle Tank:

 

* Predator with Volkite weapon

 

Sabre Tank Hunter:

Differentiated from the vindicator laser destroyer by it's lighter armour (required due to heat dispersal) & fast role.

 

* Heavy Support

* Squadron of 1-3

* Neutron Laser Projector, sponson-mounted twin-linked cyclone missile launcher (same as the javelin)

* Fast

 

LEGION SCOUT TANKS:

 

Warg Scout Tank:

Lesser predator STC discovered mid Great Crusade, adapted into a Legion strike tank - uses the classic manned Razorback turret.

 

* Fast Attack

* Squadron of 1-3

* Turret mounted TL autocannon / lascannon

* Sponson-mounted twin-linked cyclone missile launcher (same as the javelin)

* Fast

 

LEGION SKIMMERS:

Estoc Scout Speeder:

Javelin-based equivalent to the land speeder storm, used to deploy scouting units.

 

* 5-man recon / seeker squad dedicated transport

* frontal heavy bolter / heavy flamer / volkite culverin / multi-melta

* rear reaper autocannon / lascannon / plasma cannon / missile launcher

 

Saturnine-pattern Land Speeder:

Classic style basic land speeder.

 

Harpoon Strike Speeder:

Javelin-based dedicated strike vehicle (similar to land speeder tempest) - enclosed single-seat central cockpit, extra engine, sealed for orbital drop.

 

* Fast Attack

* Squadron of 1-3

* No pintle weapon due to enclosed cockpit, but has 2 TL lascannon on the sponsons

 

LEGION JETBIKES:

 

Trident Attack Jetbike:

Twin-seater jetbike, no weapons on the main chassis, but two outriggers mounting a single TL missile launcher - second rider has a shoulder-mounted heavy weapon.

 

* Fast Attack

* 1-5 squadron

* Passengers have a heavy bolter, can swap for lascannon / plasma cannon / multi-melta

 

Bullock-pattern Jetbike:

Jetbike style used by Sammael

 

* Sky Hunter / Slayer squadrons can swap out scimitar for bullock

* slightly reduced speed, but tougher

 

Goshawk-pattern Voidbike:

Based of patterns prototype by the Scars, heavier build than Jetbikes.

 

* Upgrade for Sky Hunter / Slayer squadrons, acts as hybrid skimmer / flyer

 

LEGION SUPER-HEAVY BATTLE TANKS:

 

Scourge Super-Heavy Special Weapons Tank:

Similar to Glaive, turret weapon is a scaled-up Pyroclast flame projector, designed in concert between Ferrus & Vulkan.

 

* Lord of War

* Glaive weaponry & options (apart from carronade)

* Flame projector has twin flamer / melta profile

 

Andronicus Super-Heavy Command Tank:

Fellblade hull, command equivalent in size class.

 

* 20 Astartes transport capacity

* Less crazy weapons than Fellblade, but still heavily armed

* Command rules

 

Deimos-pattern Baneblade / Shadowsword:

Deimos-styled equivalents, as well as a selective number of the variants

[malika666]

Pictures or it didn't happen!

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Yeah, this lot'll only take about 5 mins, should get em' done on my next coffee break

[malika666]

I expect hi-res pics this afternoon!

 

Scribble filled napkins and beer coasters will make a close second place though.

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Hey, anyone remember the Legions' Orgus Flyer & the Custodes' Jocasta Grav-Attack:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/Ork_Dreadnought/rogue-trader-orgus-flyer.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9nmUm8GpLl0/TZ8hzw0lrLI/AAAAAAAAAHA/i64b6JtZqLg/s1600/1+grav+attack+blog.jpg

Well, I thought I'd have a go at designing some Mechanicum-exclusive derivatives:

Explorator Silphar Ornithopter:

Lore-wise, the Orgus Flyer is a Legion skimmer which uses anti-grav tech, so I'm gonna take this in the direction of an alternative vehicle designed to mitigate the costly & time-consuming production of full suspensor arrays by using twin turbofans supplemented by additional grav-plating. Considered inferior to the Orgus, but avoids the mass demand for the former by the Legions, and has greater maneuverability due to additional thrusters, & articulated legs.

Comes with TL multi-lasers, can be swapped for photon thrusters or plasma fusils, will probably be a flying monstrous creature.

Explorator Hormeas Pattern Grav-Attack:

The Jocasta Grav-Attack is supposed to be a Unification-era relic used by the Custodes, so this will be designed from the same core schematic, and specifically modified to serve as a scouting / surveyor transport. It'll have a transport capacity of 6 & be a dedicated transport for Tech-priest auxilia & Thallax units of appropriate size, as well as being a Fast Attack choice of 1-3 vehicles.

[Charlo]

Never has a Deodorant bottle looked so cool! 

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Never has a Deodorant bottle looked so cool! 

 

Thanks man - Mechanicum units tend to integrate some pretty interesting shapes, so they seemed a perfect fit for updating the 'Imperial Land Speeder'

 

Having designed these, I've inevitably convinced myself to do the same with the original vehicles as presented in FW's background - so the Custodes Relic Jocasta Grav-Attack (which will be an interesting exercise in combining Rogue Trader & Custodes aesthetics in designing a unification-era vehicle) & Legion Orgus Flyer will be on their way relatively soon

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

After the reveal of the three upcoming Sicaran variants at Warhammer Fest, I decided to take a look back at my variant designs on the Sicaran chassis and update them. Considering the limited degree to which they vary from the primary Sicaran, while FW's new tanks each have unique turret designs, I've refined them down into the following three vehicles:

Legion Sicaran Ustor Assault Tank:

It took me a while to get the new incarnation of the Volkite Cascade looking right, but I'm super happy with how it turned out, and how well it fits with the new Sicaran Punisher Turret:

Legion Sicaran Vindex Air-Denial Tank:

The weapon mounted on the Sicaran Arcus turret is a 'Vindex Bolt Cannon Array', and it has sponson missile launchers with Flak missiles. Because similar weapons aren't absent in 40k, this will also get a relic version for use with 8th ed.

Legion Sicaran Advancer Armoured Transport:

We've seen this one before, but I thought I'd do a lineart technical illustration and give it some comms gear suitable to its recon / command role - again, this one will get a set of 40k Relic rules.

[STC Logisengine]

Now that volkite Cascade looks like something I could build... :)

[Charlo]

My lord they're beautiful.

 

I think with all these sicarans Forgeworld need to start putting squads of these bad boys as options. And adding yours.

[helterskelter]

Have you shared that glorious design with the MDRC???

[Iron Hands Fanatic]

Now that volkite Cascade looks like something I could build...

 

That would be totally rad - I hope it's easier to build than it was to design - getting those angles looking right took ages

 

My lord they're beautiful.

 

I think with all these sicarans Forgeworld need to start putting squads of these bad boys as options. And adding yours.

 

Thanks dude - I dunno, that could kinda make predator & land raider squads a bit redundant, so I can see why they haven't - on the other hand, Heavy Support is super congested, so I get what you mean. Even though they aren't switching to 8th, I'm kinda hopeful the new AoD incarnation of the 7th ed. rules takes up the multiple FoC types approach, although how well that would mesh with existing Rites of War could be problematic

 

Have you shared that glorious design with the MDRC???

 

Nope, but you're welcome to quote it over there

[marine7312000]

Have you shared that glorious design with the MDRC???

 

Nope, but you're welcome to quote it over there

 

 

And done!