Kilofix Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Ok, need to paint an HH / 30K Destroyer Squad. Fluffwise - its been described that their armor would have suffered radiation damage from all the Rad and Phospex weapons they employ. Does anyone have a good approach and / or examples of painting such? I'm hoping to do something more than just painting their armor black. I've tested a version of OSL; airbrushing graduations of black from the front but it doesn't look right being "too smooth". It just looks like there's a light source behind them. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I've seen some people use liquid plastic cement to blister and disfigure plastic minis (burned faces, for example). But you're working on resin, right? How about, in addition to the black, have the armour discoloured at the edges. Mix in a purple or blue, something that says 'not rust' ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Also have some patches where the paint just peeled off to expose the ceramite beneath, so a steel / silver color in some areas with some discoloration patches / edge around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Do yourself a favor and don't Google 'radiation damage' like I just did, hoping for some ideas on this. Just trust me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I'd use weathering powders rather than an airbrush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Seems like something you would need proper texture for, rather than just smooth paint. But truthfully, I don't think it would be easy to look at real corroded metal and tell that the source was radiation, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 No, not really, Firepower. In my eye-opening search, I found that radiation is much more obviously damaging to flesh than it is to metal. I was flipping through pics of the Chernobyl site from back when it first happened and then more in the intervening years and up to the present, and the stuff really looks no different than any other buildings or vehicles that have been left out in the weather for all that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucien Eilam Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The way phosphex is described in the books, acid corrosion is probably a more appropriate real-world reference than anything to do with actual radiation. It's like napalm crossed with the VX gas in The Rock crossed with the Xenomorph's acid blood: Almost wilfully, a burning white-green mist fell upon one of the siege squad legionaries as the doors slid open. He staggered, steam rising from his armour, which instantly began to hiss, its surface dissolving as the phosphex began to work. Sor Talgron and one of the other Word Bearers hauled the stricken legionary back, but the damage was done. They dumped him on the floor as his heavy plate began to blister and crack. It was his rubberised armour seals that were compromised first, but he roared as his flesh began to sizzle and burn inside his plate. The floor beneath him began to hiss as the corrosive chemical mist began to eat away at it. Burning vapours crawled across the landing pad. The mountains were on the very edge of one of the detonations, yet even so, the carnage was devastating. Everything touched by it was being voraciously devoured. Metal dissolved as though bathed in acid, and the bare rock blazed with green fire. Even the air itself was being consumed in the choking, metallic clouds. Maybe some salt weathering on the armour (a little tricky on infantry, but possible) or sponged damage, coupled with some blackening/scorching with dark brown and black pigments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Mine are currently a ceramite colour (or pseudo) - to indicate the colour being washing away over time. Unsure if I'm wholly happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Mine are currently a ceramite colour (or pseudo) - to indicate the colour being washing away over time. Unsure if I'm wholly happy. Chaeron - can you repost a pic? Thanks! Also - thanks for the other opinions. Still not sure how to pull it all together though. Guess I'll experiment more on a test model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Mine are currently a ceramite colour (or pseudo) - to indicate the colour being washing away over time. Unsure if I'm wholly happy. Chaeron - can you repost a pic? Thanks! Also - thanks for the other opinions. Still not sure how to pull it all together though. Guess I'll experiment more on a test model. Of course, will do later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Mine are currently a ceramite colour (or pseudo) - to indicate the colour being washing away over time. Unsure if I'm wholly happy. Chaeron - can you repost a pic? Thanks! Also - thanks for the other opinions. Still not sure how to pull it all together though. Guess I'll experiment more on a test model. Of course, will do later. Okay, here are mine! I can't tell you how I did them, because I bought them like this (not for the paint-job necessarily, but for what they are!) - though they may give you some inspiration for what you want to go for: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/TheNewAgeOutlaw/GW/photo13_zps458fdfda.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/TheNewAgeOutlaw/GW/photo22_zps1e17823f.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/TheNewAgeOutlaw/GW/photo32_zps0495dd48.jpg I believe the intention was for them to be for a Word Bearers force - but can't find the details of the eBay listing now. Hope that at least gives you some idea of what someone has done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hmm, maybe if I don't do black but I do really dark metallic and some burnishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I think having exposed flesh will really sell the effect. Burning/radiation damage can be a lot more obvious on flesh than on metal. Horrifically so, really, but thankfully we're talking about models here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hmm, maybe if I don't do black but I do really dark metallic and some burnishing Yeah, I think that would work. The guy acknowledged at the time it wasn't perfect - but like I said, I wasn't buying it for the artistic merit - but rather cost and look! If I were to repaint them (I probably will... you know me) - I would attempt to paint them like Death Guard, and basically strip the front paint away. Unsure how... maybe a textured paint? Like have such a contrast between front and back that it looked as if the front were ruined... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hmm, maybe if I don't do black but I do really dark metallic and some burnishing Yeah, I think that would work. The guy acknowledged at the time it wasn't perfect - but like I said, I wasn't buying it for the artistic merit - but rather cost and look! If I were to repaint them (I probably will... you know me) - I would attempt to paint them like Death Guard, and basically strip the front paint away. Unsure how... maybe a textured paint? Like have such a contrast between front and back that it looked as if the front were ruined... I'll try priming black, then adding a layer of nail polish, basecoating white, then use acetone or glue to strip the white, then add burnish and see how that turns out. Pics after - it may not work out. Now to pick another sacrificial model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hmm, maybe if I don't do black but I do really dark metallic and some burnishing Yeah, I think that would work. The guy acknowledged at the time it wasn't perfect - but like I said, I wasn't buying it for the artistic merit - but rather cost and look! If I were to repaint them (I probably will... you know me) - I would attempt to paint them like Death Guard, and basically strip the front paint away. Unsure how... maybe a textured paint? Like have such a contrast between front and back that it looked as if the front were ruined... I'll try priming black, then adding a layer of nail polish, basecoating white, then use acetone or glue to strip the white, then add burnish and see how that turns out. Pics after - it may not work out. Now to pick another sacrificial model. Don't forget if you're doing it with resin, effects may be different to plastic/metal... Good luck - wanna see what you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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