Slips Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 And Dark Furies :o boy do they look like they can wreck some face in CC with Shred, MC and Rending AP3 LCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 even though i'm going for the RG I never used jump packs. they just seem so expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Well, you their integrated into their cost, but yeah, they ain't cheap. 420 points for a 10 man squad with all Ravens Talons is very pricey, but, they'll murderlate anything they come into contact with in CC, barring some primarchs or some very tough terminators. Though that 5+ cover upon deep striking in is quite nice and they can start on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 I have been trained to think such units are too expensive. have you used them to good effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 My planned out 2500 point RG list that has such a squad hasn't been put together yet (since I need 3 storm eagles and 2 fire raptors...), since I first need to finish my Imperial Fists then, either choose between my 'Clown Car' World Eaters or RG, hopefully before Thousand Sons get a release. But, on paper, if you do get them into combat they will to spectacular damage to MEQ units or weaker. The only thing is getting them into combat. However, them being limited to 10 men and Storm Eagles having a capacity of 20, you could plop them into one or even a Spartan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 thats a valuable point but can the marines even fit inside the spartan with jump packs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Pretty sure they can since a Spartan is 25 capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 hmm good point. I would have to try it out then! now, have you tried contemptors out? I'm pretty hesitant about them for all the same reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 They are fire magnets, thats for sure. But with AV 13 front and a 5+(+?) invulnerable save, they're plenty tough. Being able to take a DCCWx2 with Dual Plasma Blasters (assault 2, AP2) means that one can almost reliably tackle some TEQ's but, depending on the graces of RNGesus, may die quite rapidly. Also, chain fists if you want a can-opener dread. A Contemptor-Mortis is in the same boat with a focus on being ranged support, however. If you have a Contemptor Talon and 1-2 Mortis' they're likely to be put on the back burner in terms of target priority since 3 DCCW contemptors charging at them is a bigger problem. That said, they will be the focus of any list that has Deep Strike Elements. Because Interceptor + Skyfire can be devastating when going up against 12 rending shots, 4 TLAC shots or 2 TLLC shots. Edit: forgot, non-melee contemptors also have Fleet. So they get to where they want quite rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 I was wondering about the non mortis kind too. they seem pretty slow but with fleet who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 And if you wanted to, you could give them (the non mortis that is) Graviton guns inside their DCCW to cause Difficult/Dangerous terrain under whoever their aiming at. Makes it quite hard to run away at that point, though it makes for one expensive Dread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 yea the expense is the biggest part. part of my brain wonders if it's worth it to spend 240pts on a dread or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 If that dread can solo a 20 man tac squad pricing in at 250+ points or at least keep it occupied for a while, then I think thats worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komrk Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 420 points is 100 less than a ten man squad of Vanguard Vets w/ JP and 2x LC and with none of the special rules. When I run my 40k Raven Guard I almost always take them and they always perform admirably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 thats good to know! I should try them sometime then. and for the dread I looked at the points yesterday. would it be better to have two close combat weapons with stuff inside them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 after using infiltrating vehicles I wonder how easy it is for 15 man squads in infiltrate up near the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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